Another example of holding the truth in unrighteousness-Eastside’s Gene Appel

Forget his wide path watered down doctrine building the house on sand. This issue discussed in this article eclipses any and all of that. Without legs, nothing can stand. What I point out is how what he supports breaks the legs of the Bible.

“Studying and teaching from the New Living Translation second edition provides refreshing insights from a translation with high credibility. I recommend it to both Christ followers taking their first steps of faith and seasoned veterans on their spiritual journey.”

Gene Appel Eastside Christian Fellowship Fullerton, California

This man is a so called Christian pastor making a statement about a translation of the Bible. This is his full time job and he is paid tens of thousands of dollars a month to be some sort of oracle to 7000 sheep that empty their wallets every weekend. He clearly states that New Living Translation second edition is recommended to all Christians. This man knows the various translations of The Bible in existence. It is what he does for a living.  He has made his position known. This man also knows exactly what he is doing. He is part of the system.

Gene Appel

The greatest lie ever told is that there is no God. The greatest tool ever invented to convince people of this lie is the theory of evolution. The greatest purveyors of this lie is the public school system and their agents. The greatest protection afforded this lie comes from the government through its controlled academia and scientific community. It ought not be aided and abetted by the church but it is.  The greatest responsibility to counter this massive deception lies with the church and church leaders. The greatest weapon we have in fighting this war for the souls and minds of the masses is The Bible. The greatest deception operation on earth is NASA working with the media and the churches.

There is a greater damnation for the hireling preacher.  Is Gene Appel a hireling? Some would argue that he is.

One of the most preeminent versus in all of the Bible making the case for God and His creating our world, aside from Genesis 1:1 is Psalm 19.

Here is the King James Version:

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.”  

Have you ever seen the sky in total darkness at night? If you have then this verse makes perfect sense. Most throughout history did every night of their lives and their eyes did not lie nor deceive them. They saw the Glory of God and His handywork-THE FIRMAMENT. No longer can we as lighting and tv screens dominate our nocturnal viewing habits.

The Bible clearly refers to the earth being a circle not a sphere and of course having a solid structure above it supporting waters ABOVE IT. Genesis 1:6 refers to the firmament.  Look the Bible is clear and the Hebrew is succinctly clear: The word RAQIA IS THE EXACT HEBREW WORD IN GENESIS 1 verse 6 AND IN PSALM 19

רָקִיעַ noun masculineGenesis 1:6 extended surface, (solid)

2 the vault of heaven, or ‘firmament,’ regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting ‘waters’ above it, Genesis 1:6,7 (3 t. in verse);Genesis 1:8 (called שָׁמַיַם; all P), Psalm 19:2 (“” הַשָּׁמַיַם), ׳זֹהַר הָרDaniel 12:3; also ׳ר הַשָּׁמִיִם Genesis 1:14,15,17, ׳הַשּׁ ׳עַלמְּֿנֵי רGenesis 1:20 (all P). **רְקִיעַ עֻזּוֺ Psalm 150:1 (suffix reference to ׳י).

This is a Scriptural fact on cosmology. It represents a firm and impassable barrier between the world of man (below) and the abode of God (above).

“Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that [be] above the heavens.”
(Psalms 148:4 KJV)

Gene Appel has gone on record supporting the New Living Translation second edition and ascribing high credibility to it.

Look what the New Living Translation second edition has done to Psalm 19!

“The heavens proclaim the glory of God. The skies display his craftsmanship.”

First,the NLT 2nd edition switches the world declare for proclaim. “Declare: is used in informal situations which God speaking to all of us really is. ‘Proclaim’ is used more for government declarations. Notice the subtle interchange that precedes the massive deception that follows. The NLT 2nd edition removes the word “firmament” and substitutes it for the word “skies.

This is heresy breaking the legs of the Truth of The Bible. The Hebrew in Psalm 19 and Genesis 1 is clear

.  רָקִיעַ noun masculineGenesis 1:6 extended surface, (solid) expanse (as if beaten out; compare Job 37:18); — absolute ׳רEzekiel 1:22 +, construct ׳רְ Genesis 1:14 +; — ᵐ5 στερέωμαᵑ9firmamentum, compare Syriac below √above; —

(flat) expanse (as if of ice, compare כְּעֵין הַקֶּרַח), as base, support (WklAltor. Forsch. iv. 347Ezekiel 1:22,23,25(gloss ? compare Co Toy), Ezekiel 1:26 (supporting ׳י‘s throne). Hence (CoEzekiel 1:22)

the vault of heaven, or ‘firmament,’ regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting ‘waters’ above it, Genesis 1:6,7 (3 t. in verse); Genesis 1:8 (called שָׁמַיַם; all P), Psalm 19:2 (“” הַשָּׁמַיַם), ׳זֹהַר הָר Daniel 12:3; also ׳ר הַשָּׁמִיִם Genesis 1:14,15,17, ׳הַשּׁ ׳עַלמְּֿנֵי ר Genesis 1:20 (all P). **רְקִיעַ עֻזּוֺ Psalm 150:1 (suffix reference to ׳י).

Once again, The Bible clearly refers to the earth being a circle not a sphere and of course having a solid structure above it supporting waters ABOVE IT. Genesis 1:6 refers to the firmament. Even the pastors are in on this scam. Look the Bible is clear and the Hebrew is succinctly clear: The word RAQIA IS THE EXACT WORD IN GENESIS 1 verse 6. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO BY EVERYONE INVOLVED INCLUDING YOUR PASTOR.

רָקִיעַ noun masculineGenesis 1:6 extended surface, (solid)

2 the vault of heaven, or ‘firmament,’ regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting ‘waters’ above it, Genesis 1:6,7 (3 t. in verse);Genesis 1:8 (called שָׁמַיַם; all P), Psalm 19:2 (“” הַשָּׁמַיַם), ׳זֹהַר הָרDaniel 12:3; also ׳ר הַשָּׁמִיִם Genesis 1:14,15,17, ׳הַשּׁ ׳עַלמְּֿנֵי רGenesis 1:20 (all P). **רְקִיעַ עֻזּוֺ Psalm 150:1 (suffix reference to ׳י).

This is a Scriptural fact on cosmology. It represents a firm and impassable barrier between the world of man (below) and the abode of God (above). Star Trek, and all the fake moon landings are part of the deception. It is much easier to make people believe in evolution if they are told that the earth is some random spinning ball flying through space at 5000 miles an hour that coalesced from a bunch of cooling molten mass from an explosion trillions of years ago than to make people believe in atheism if they live in a magnificent closed system in that we are daily reminded that the “HEAVENS DECLARE THE GLORY OF GOD AND THE FIRMAMENT SHOWETH HIS HANDYWORK”.

The Bible clearly states that we live in a closed system. So if the greatest lie ever told is that there is no God. If The greatest tool ever invented to convince people of this lie is the theory of evolution.  If The greatest purveyors of this lie is the public school system and their agents. If The greatest protection afforded this lie comes from the government through its controlled academia and scientific community. It ought not be aided and abetted by the church. That is exactly what people like Gene are doing with their support for such heresy. The greatest responsibility to counter this massive deception lies with the church and church leaders. The greatest weapon we have in fighting this war for the souls and minds of the masses is The Bible. Gene Appel is aiding and abetting the destruction of the Truth of The Bible by publicly, knowingly, willingly, and proudly declaring his support for a false and dangerous translation of The Bible that aids an abets the advancement of the secular humanist atheistic agenda called the religion of science.

The greatest arm of pseudo scientific cosmology is NASA. Having militarized space, they are the high priests of the church of the heliocentric model of the universe keeping all dissent under strict control, generating fake computer generated images for decades stealing trillions of dollars from the taxpayers, and providing consistent support for the government agents in academia, science and education that have poisoned countless children into believing THAT THE BIBLE IS WRONG ON ITS VIEW OF THE UNIVERSE! 

If the children knew THEY were in a closed system, the next question they would ask is WHO PUT THEM THERE? God did.

The Bible is either wrong or NASA is wrong. Either The Bible is a lie or NASA is a lie. The Bible clearly states the earth is flat covered by a dome. NASA claims the earth is round and revolves around the sun.  From ancient civilizations to modern times we are told that the earth is flat with a dome Hebrew, Ancient Egyptian, Babylonians, Chinese, Indians, Greeks, Poets, Philosophers, Historians and modern evidences tell us that the earth is flat. So why does everyone believe what NASA tells us? Which one is it? You decide whether or not The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork..


The government has had a monopoly over the media, press and academia for decades. Couple that with the 13 years of compulsory education mandated to indoctrinate every man woman and child in the US and you have little room for debate or do we? The Universities and the academic intellencia take it up on a logarithmic scale and yet the only photos of the earth from so called space or satellites are ALL ARTIST RENDERINGS OR COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES. Your eyes and your basic instincts tell us the sun and the moon are the same size, located very close to us as the naked eye cannot see a moon  crater 40 miles across 238,000 miles away, that the oceans cannot stay on a 1000 mile per hour spinning ball and that the 75,000 miles of circulatory system did not get into our bodies by accident. Yet we submit our bodies and minds to those who deny that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

It is the school district personnel who teach just that. These are the ones who cement the lies after, through endless rote repetition, they ram the fables deep into the impressionable minds of the children. Do they know what they are part of? How can it be that reasonable, logical people that supposedly are the critical thinkers take part in such a vile endeavor, that is the teaching of the lie of evolution? What are these people thinking? They are not. They are walking lockstep with the machine that turns out children who do not know or believe in God and who can no longer think and interpret what is right in front of their eyes even though The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

The school district personnel are all in on it, every last one of them. Where are all the so called  moral giants, or the so called christian teachers and staff? Why are they silent? Where is their fiece vocal opposition to these flat out lies? Yes they are all part of a regressive, massive dehumanization and sterilization agenda, drugging the children with vision destroying technology,



Yes they are all part of a regressive, massive, reproductive organ destroying wireless classroom technology forced irradiation program that is turning them into satanic video game addicts, teaching them the lies of evolution, the lie that there is no God, that wireless is harmless and that vaccines are safe and not part of a eugenics agenda. Does it logically follow that the school district personnel are not the most dangerous and evil people alive right now because of what they are doing to all the children? Yes you heard me the same ones doing this are the ones who hide that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork..

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They sit back and remain silent on the brain damaging sterilization by the forced microwave exposure in the classrooms, refusing to warn parents, accept information and warn the students. They are silent on the perversion being foisted on our children, they are silent on the forced vaccinations that are now part of school entry requirements. They are silent on the lies of evolution, silent on the dehumanization of children they are taking part in and silent on everything that matters except when it comes to their paltry paychecks. Go look out in front of the high schools in Fullerton right now and you will see these overpaid lackeys pissed off about the fact the $125,000 a year is not enough for 6 1/2 hour workdays for less than half the year as they lock the children out of class for tutoring and college letter of recommendation writing.

Yes of course That is when they speak up while they all ignore that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

Firmament does not refer to empty air, a blue sky or a level of the atmosphere, it refers to a physical structure. It refers to the dome that covers the earth, and stated as such in some Bible translations. Yes it is the dome that no rocket ship or 33rd degree mason phony astronaut con job clown has ever passed through with a fake spaceship that really just crashed down in the ocean right after it launched.

The firmament sheweth His handy work. Why hide the dome from us? Why discredit the first chapter of The Bible? Because the total bull crap of evolution folds like a bad hand when people that have been so dumbed down to believe it in the first place realize that a dome over us means that someone put it there and put us under it. Thank the school district personell for all this moral relativism, political correctness, joke science and of course the 65 shots in your children’s bloodstreams and the wireless device in their laps. How long are all you parents and school district sycophants and lackeys going to go along with all of this or are you too going to ignore that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

And yes, there are the doctors, with their academic arrogance, who think the man in the sky is some sort of a joke. In Fullerton look no further than the most outspoken enemies of God in town who mock God, and whose wife publicly calls for ending prayer at public meetings while they both push for the forced irradiation of school children all over California. Just look how and where all that education got those two who publicly ignore and protest that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

I guess the the toxic drugs, toxic treatments and eugenicist shots, are right there behind all of them to help guide the way. Look what these closed minded automaton school district and medical establishment thugs have done to you, your friends, your parents and are now doing to an entire generation of children as these get their body, soul, health and spirit sucked to hell by the well coordinated orchestration of all of the aforementioned on their watch with their blessing.

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. -The words of Jesus Christ.

Actually It applies to all of them, especially to the nurses and social workers that are putting all these children on medication when what they really need is the knowledge that God made them and God loves them. No such luck at school where they are taught starting in kindergarten that they can have two dads, two moms, that they came from animals, rocks, monkeys and muck and became what they are as a result of some cosmic accident with their faces glued to screens all day and night while they ignore, forget or simply cannot fathom that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

I challenge all of you to consider what has been the norm in our brainwashed society and open your eyes to the ancient wisdom so timelessly established in God’s word that to this very day, remains under attack from some of the most evil people in all of human history who subvert the fact that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

How can a student of the Bible, or even a seminary graduate, believe and even instruct the flock that science has proven The Bible to be in error? How do you ignore chapter 1 when your entire business model is built around the contents of this book? Yes even the dumbed down phony pastors and the pickpocket preachers in the phony churches that go along with all of this for a few measly bucks just so they can sleep in everyday and ignore that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

You will never hear a sermon on Genesis 1 that tells the truth about what we actually live on or one that exposes:


If they can con everyone into believing that there is no God, that we all came from rocks, that we are all animals, that there is no purpose to any of this, then I can assure you ladies and gentlemen, they will treat us like rocks and animals. Sadly with the forced vaccinations, the satanic media, the disgusting fake toxic food, the booze, pills, dope, porn, the wireless emissions beaming through our walls, forced into the laps of children at school, the dosed water, the sprayed skies and the outright lies of the educational and medical system that ARE IN DIAMETRIC OPPOSITION to the Word of God, we are already in dire straights in need of a massive and abrupt about face. The second biggest lie ever told is right here before your eyes. Please open them before you end up spending eternity in darkness. The Bible is true, the earth is flat and anyone who tells you otherwise is simply a victim of an educational system that is designed to promulgate regression disguised as intellectual prowess flanked by foolishness that remains bound up in the child that they can never admit they still are. Take 25 minutes and judge for yourself. The lies have it ladies and gentlemen, and they also have your children all by the throat. It is time to break the grip. The day has finally arrived. The choice is yours.








  1. #1 by Anonymous on August 18, 2017 - 1:36 pm

    Hah! So because he doesn’t buy in to your BS about a flat earth and/or Young Earth Creationism, he’s bad? That’s all you’ve got?

    Hilarious. You’re really grasping at straws here.

  2. #2 by Anonymous on August 18, 2017 - 3:35 pm

    Good job Joe. When you think of the equivalent in todays dollars what NASA stole from the taxpayers over the last 50 years to run this charade, we could have wiped poverty off the map in the United States. The entire space program is a huge scam. The moon landings were laughable. This is a good video of what a fraud they were.

    Honestly, I never gave it much thought until I read the rest of this hit piece on the minister. I see it. It is a very cohesive front that advances year after year. I always wondered how the Bible was put at odds with the scientific community and the church never defended it. I always believed that the earth was stationary. This is more than amazing. Joe, you are going up against the whole world.

  3. #5 by Anonymous on August 19, 2017 - 2:32 pm

    I have been to this church and it is like going to a play or a movie. It is very entertainment centered. It is always very crowded when I have gone. They have a lot of people that go there.

  4. #6 by Anonymous on August 19, 2017 - 7:34 pm

    The moon landings were faked to win the cold war not to disprove the Bible. Maybe it is just a coincidence?

    • #7 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 11:43 am

      Really? Have any legitimate evidence to back that up?

      • #8 by Joe Imbriano on August 20, 2017 - 2:16 pm

        What do you call legitimate evidence? The fake pictures from NASA? Oh yeah and the moon landing footage-oh that is some real legit evidence.

        • #9 by Anonymous on August 21, 2017 - 12:23 am

          So you don’t?

  5. #10 by Anonymous on August 19, 2017 - 10:01 pm

    High-altitude balloons and Rockets prove the World is Flat. The sun is not millions of miles away. There is no solar system. The universe doesn’t exist> Its all made up to fool you guys to keep you in the dark and keep God from you. That’s the real objective. Its working like a charm.

    • #11 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 11:04 am

      “The Bible is either lying or NASA is lying”
      Considering all of the compartmentalization and the Masonic astronauts, its a no brainer. Now to get people whose brains have been switched off to realize this no brainer will never happen.

    • #12 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 11:43 am

      Have any evidence to back up these ridiculous claims?

  6. #13 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 9:05 am

    Appel is laughing all the way to the bank.

  7. #14 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 3:31 pm

    Samuel 2:8 The Earth sits on Pillars
    “For the pillars of the Earth are the Lords,and on them he has set the World.“RSV & KJV“The foundations of the Earth belong to the Lord; on them he has built theworld.” GNB “For to Yahweh belong the pillars of the Earth, on these he has poised theworld.” JB“’For to Jehovah belong Earth’s supports, and he places upon them theproductive land ” NWT

  8. #15 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 3:41 pm

    Dan 4:10 & 11 Nebuchadnezzar’s Tree
    “The visions of my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw, and behold, a tree inthe midst of the Earth; and its height was great. The tree grew and becamestrong, and its top reached to Heaven, and it was visible to the end of the wholeEarth” RSV & KJV”While I was asleep, I had a vision of a huge tree in the middle of the Earth. Itgrew bigger and bigger until it reached the sky and could be seen by everyone inthe world. “ GNB”The visions that passed through my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw a treein the middle of the World; it was very tall. The tree grew taller and stronger, untilits top reached the sky and it could be seen from the very ends of the Earth.“JB“’Now the visions of my head upon my bed I happened to be beholding, and,look! a tree in the midst of the Earth, the height of which was immense. The treegrew up and became strong, and its very height finally reached the Heavens, andit was visible to the extremity of the whole Earth.” NWT

  9. #16 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 3:51 pm

    Isaiah 40:22: Shape of the Universe

    It is he who sits above the circle of the Earth,and its inhabitants are likegrasshoppers;who stretches out the Heavens like a curtain,and spreads themlike a tent to dwell in. “ RSV & KJV“It was made by the one who sits on his throne above the Earth and beyondthe Sky; the people below look as tiny as ants. He stretched out the sky like acurtain, like a tent in which to live.” GNB “He who sits enthroned above the circle of the Earth, the inhabitants of whichare like grasshoppers, stretches out the Heavens like a cloth, spreads themout like a tent to live in.” JB“There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the Earth, the dwellers inwhich are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the Heavens justas a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell” NWT**
    * *New World Translation (Jehovah’s Witnesses) *Note how the words for “Heaven”& “Sky” are interchangeabl

  10. #17 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 4:27 pm

    A compass is used to draw a circle.

    Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

  11. #18 by Anonymous on August 20, 2017 - 7:13 pm

    The King James Version of the Bible is the inspired, inerrant, and infallable Word of God. Every other translation is a per-version and is inspired by the devil himself! Let’s get that out of the way first.

    Many fundamentalist believe that the attacks on the Bible began with Charles Darwin. Although Darwin did a lot to attack the Bible and blaspheme against the ONE TRUE GOD, however it really all began with the blasphemy of the round earth theory (note the word “theory”).

    Here are some Bible verses that prove that the Earth is flat. If we can’t trust the Bible when it comes to the shape of the earth, how can we trust it when it comes to Salvation?

    “Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth…reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth’s farthest bounds.” Only with a flat earth could tall tree be visible from “the earth’s farthest bounds,” — this is impossible on a spherical earth.

    Matthew 4:8: “Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world”

    Luke 4:5: “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.”

    Isaiah 11:12 “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”

    Revelation 7:1 “And after these things I saw four angels standing on four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.”

    Likewise, the Bible shows that the earth is not free-falling from space, but it is standing firm on pillars:

    “He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.” Job 9:6

    “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? … Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened?” Job 38:4-6


    If you claim to believe the Bible, you MUST believe in a flat, geocentric earth that is standing on pillars – just like I do. May God bless you and all of the FES.

    • #19 by Anonymous on August 21, 2017 - 7:56 am

      Hey, there’s something happening this morning that unequivocally proves the world is round. If the Earth is flat, what’s been predicted is physically impossible.

      Might want to pay attention.

      Psssst. The planet is also older than 6000 years.

      Take your crazy pills!

  12. #20 by Anonymous on August 21, 2017 - 8:29 am

    According to the Bible,the Earth is Flat,Circular & is held up by Pillars
    1)The Earth is flat and circular.(Isaiah 40:22, Proverbs8:27, Genesis 10-11, Zechariah 9: 9 &10 )2)Israel is in the centre of the Flat Earth. (Ezekiel 5:5 &Ezekiel 38:12 )3)The Earth is supported by Pillars (1 Samuel 2:8,Psalm 75:3 , Job 9:6, Job 38: 4 – 6 )4)The Earth sits in the Great Deep (Psalm 24:2 ,Psalm 136: 6 , Exodus 20: 4 )

  13. #21 by blinded by the light on August 21, 2017 - 10:15 am

    millions of people are looking towards the sky today to watch “the moon” pass in front of the sun and since the heliocentric system is a lie then today would be a good day to expose that lie and explain the truth about the shadow object to the sheeps and open their eyes.

  14. #23 by blind to the brothers on August 21, 2017 - 11:12 pm

  15. #24 by Anonymous on August 22, 2017 - 9:30 am

    Eclipses are cyclical. You can predict future eclipses by following their well-known and documented pattern. This is true for both the Flat Earth model and the Round Earth model. Solar eclipses have been predictable long before anyone thought the Earth was a globe. Ever heard of the Mayans?

    • #25 by Anonymous on August 22, 2017 - 10:12 pm

      No they didn’t, freak show. That’s another one of your lies.

  16. #26 by Anonymous on August 22, 2017 - 1:11 pm

    It is really pathetic when the NASA channel is a total joke and they have how many billions of our dollars just like the churches eh? Just look at all the horrible stuff the churches let happen. Heck did any of you notice the Harvest crusade at Angel stadium last weekend with hundreds of thousands of people on the other side of the tent city at the river bed? How many millions does it cost to rent the stadium for a few nights?

    Where are the tax returns of Eastside church? Oh I forgot, they are not open to public inspection. I guess the burden lies upon the average person to produce a video that explains the abject fraud the churches have all embossed their blessings on. You can’t be a Christian and believe in a Round Earth. The Bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover. There is no getting around that.
    The stuff NASA feeds the moronic population is beyond laughable. Notice how there is such emphasis on partnerships with the schools. It is because they’ve got to keep the lie going and they’ve got to get them younger and younger before people wake up. People you need to think while it’s still legal.

  17. #27 by Anonymous on August 22, 2017 - 3:01 pm

    You have to understand these churches are nothing but businesses and it’s just people working at these places who are just employees so they don’t care. They’re no different than the average person who just cares about a paycheck and what they’re going to eat for dinner so you can’t really blame this Gene guy. He’s just doing a job he’s paid to do and that is to bring people in and not upset anybody and try to keep everybody happy and keep them coming back so they can keep giving him money every Sunday and that’s what this is really all about.
    Here’s a pretty good video the kind of breaks down what a joke all this stuff isn’t we’ve been told about this Eclipse I thought it was actually pretty good and it’s pretty simple to follow his really logical and that’s something that’s lacking in a lot of the stuff they were being fed

    • #28 by Anonymous on August 22, 2017 - 10:41 pm

      No I do blame people like Gene. He is a hired hand plain and simple.

      From the Eastside website—
      Five ways to describe Gene:
      Gifted communicator. Committed to Christ. Devoted to the Church. Lover of God’s Word. Passionate about reaching people for Christ.

      1-Do you hear anywhere in there that he is devoted to the TRUTH?
      I agree that he is a gifted communicator and that is why he was chosen to fleece the flock.

      2-Committed to Christ? That is a lie.

      3-Devoted to the church? Absolutely. The Church is a corporation and is part of the world system.

      4- Lover of God’s word? That is a lie. As a matter of fact, Eastside no longer uses the Bible but rather their own book that has been reorganized and rewritten.

      5- Passionate about reaching people for Christ? Read that filling the pews with financial donors.

      The people that work there are there for the money. 85% of the expenses go to payroll and it is one hell of a fat payroll.

  18. #29 by Anonymous on August 23, 2017 - 5:21 am

    “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.”-Tesla

  19. #30 by Anonymous on August 23, 2017 - 11:29 am

    Here is the mission statement from Eastside’s website

    Our Vision
    “To transform our homes, community and world by pursuing God, building community, and unleashing compassion, one neighborhood at a time.”

    Do you hear anything in that about truth?

  20. #31 by Anonymous on August 23, 2017 - 2:59 pm

  21. #32 by Anonymous on August 23, 2017 - 3:35 pm

    Here is an excerpt from their beliefs from the Eastside website-

    The Bible is inspired by God and is therefore without error or contradiction, and is the sole authority for faith and practice. All our beliefs come from the Bible (2 Timothy 3:15-16, 2 Peter 3:15-16).

    So how do this man support the NLT which is basically blashphemy.

    Corrupted Scriptures in the New Living Translation

    Deuteronomy – “sodomite” changed to “temple prostitute”
    1 Kings 14:24 – “sodomites” replaced with “shrine prostitutes”
    1 Kings 15:12 – “sodomites” replaced with “shrine prostitutes”
    1 Kings 22:46 – “sodomites” replaced with “shrine prostitutes”
    2 Kings 23:7 – “sodomites” replaced with “shrine prostitutes”
    Matthew 17:21 – entire verse omitted
    Matthew 18:11 – entire verse omitted
    Matthew 19:9 – half of the verse is omitted
    Matthew 23:14 – entire verse omitted
    Mark 6:11 – half of the verse is omitted
    Mark 7:16 – entire verse omitted
    Mark 9:44, 46 – entire verses omitted
    Mark 11:26 – entire verse omitted
    Mark 15:28 – entire verse omitted
    Mark 16:9-20 – entire passage is questioned by a footnote that says, “The most reliable early manuscripts conclude the Gospel of Mark at verse 8”
    Luke 4:8 – “get thee behind me Satan” is omitted
    Luke 17:36 – entire verse omitted
    Luke 23:17 – entire verse omitted
    John 1:10 – says God created everything “through” Jesus instead of “by” Jesus as the KJB teaches
    John 1:41 – The NLT leaves out the phrase, “Which is by interpretation, a stone.” Hence, the critical distinction between Peter as “the stone” (Petros), and Jesus as “The Rock” (Petra) is obscured. This was no doubt deliberate to pleases Catholics who falsely teach that Peter is the rock upon which the church is built. The Bible states in no uncertain terms, “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ” (1st Corinthians 3:11).
    John 3:16 – the all important word “begotten” is omitted, thus denying the deity of Christ
    John 3:13 – “which is in heaven” is omitted John 5:4 – entire verse omitted
    John 7:53 – 8:11 — entire passage is questioned in a note which says, “The most ancient Greek manuscripts do not include John 7:53 – 8:11”
    Acts 8:37 – entire verse omitted
    Acts 12:4 – changes “Easter” to the incorrect “Passover” (See Numbers 28:16,17 and Acts 12:2 in the KJB)
    Acts 17:29 – completely removes the “Godhead”
    Acts 28:29 – entire verse omitted
    Romans 1:20 – completely removes the “Godhead”
    Romans 16:24 – entire verse omitted
    Philippians 2:6 -removes the word “equal,” thus denying Christ’s deity
    Colossians 1:16 – says God created everything “through” Jesus instead of “by” Jesus as the KJB teaches
    Colossians 2:9 – completely removes the “Godhead”
    1 Timothy 3:16 – “God” is omitted, says “Christ appeared in the flesh, thus denying the deity of Christ
    1 Timothy 6:5 – “from such withdraw thyself” is omitted
    Hebrews 1:3 – the all-important words “by himself” are omitted
    1 Peter 4:1 – “for us” is omitted
    1 Peter 4:14 – half of the verse is omitted
    1 John 3:16 -completely removes “the love of God”
    1 John 4:3 – the all-important words “Christ is come in the flesh” are omitted 1 John 5:7-8 — Trinitarian clause omitted
    1 John 5:7 – half of the verse is omitted, thus denying the Godhead
    1 John 5:13 – half of the verse is omitted
    Revelation 1:11 – first half of the verse is omitted
    Revelation 5:14 – “him that liveth forever and ever” is omitted

    NLT perverts the Godhead!

    1st John 5:7 is a vital Scripture that EVERY Christian should know. This Scripture clearly proclaims that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost are ONE. But, the NLT says otherwise…

    KJB – “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

    NLT – “So we have these three witnesses.”

    What blasphemy! Many Christians have bought into the lie that 1st John 5:7 wasn’t in the originals –IT WAS! It depends on which originals you’re talking about. The Textus Receptus (or received text) from which our reliable King James Bible comes DOES contain 1st John 5:7.

    1st John 5:7 in the NLT greatly contradicts John 10:30…

    “I and my Father are one.” -John 10:30 KJB

    It also contradicts Luke 3:22…

    “And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”

    The NLT Bible-corrupters even removed the Godhead from Romans 1:20…

    KJB – “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

    NLT – “From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky and all that God made. They can clearly see his invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God.

    One of the most popular attacks that unbelievers launch against Christians is to say that the word “trinity” is not even found in the Bible. The best defense is to show them the multiple Scriptures in the Word of God which teach about the GODHEAD. Tragically, the word “Godhead” isn’t even mentioned in the NLT. What? Yes, that is correct…some “accurate” translation huh? This is why I confidently say that the New Living Translation is straight from Hell. Here’s Acts 17:29 compared…

    KJB – “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.”

    NLT – “And since this is true, we shouldn’t think of God as an idol designed by craftsmen from gold or silver or stone.”

    Many cults (such as Islamic Muslims and Jehovah Witnesses) acknowledge the existence of a god, but deny the Godhead. It is tragic that so many believers are supporting these modern versions that maliciously attack the Godhead and Jesus’ deity. Look what they’ve done to Colossians 2:9…

    KJB – “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    NLT – “For in Christ the fullness of God lives in a human body.”

    I noticed a tiny asterisk mark (*) next to Colossians 2:9 in the NLT. I looked to the bottom to see what the footnote said… “Greek in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” Do you see what is happening here? To make everybody happy, the NLT Bible-corrupters completely removed “Godhead” to appease the liberals, but then they’ve also placed the truth in a little footnote in an attempt to appease conservative protestants. Why in the world would they not place the literal Greek translation in Colossians 2:9, why would they put the correct Greek translation in a tiny footnote at the bottom of the page? Do you know what happens in the making of a new bible? It’s kind of like the bargaining table at contract time between the union and company management.

    All the different religious denominations are invited to the bargaining table and a meeting is held to decide what COMPROMISES must be made to make the “new” bible acceptable to their particular denomination. This is all done in an attempt to reach the largest market base possible. By the time the new corrupted bible is finished, without fail, the Godhead (trinity) and the deity of Jesus Christ are greatly diminished. This is why I love the old King James Bible, it proudly proclaims the Godhead and the deity of our Precious Lord Jesus Christ.

    NLT perverts Christ’s Deity!

    One of the most important verses in the Bible is John 3:16. As mentioned earlier, the NLT perverts this verse by removing the word “begotten,” thus saying that God only has one son. But 1st John 3:1 in the KJB reads, “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.” Clearly, God has many sons, but Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God, which makes Jesus God.

    KJB – ” “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” -John 3:16

    NLT – “For God so loved the world that he gave he gave his only son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” -John 3:16

    The NLT teaches heresy!

    “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.” -Galatians 3:26 KJB

    The NLT also corrupts 1st Timothy 3:16…

    KJB – “…God was manifest in the flesh…”

    TBFT – “…Christ appeared in the flesh…”

    Jesus claimed to be Almighty God in Revelation 1:8. For anyone to diminish 1st Timothy 3:16 to a mere “Christ appeared in the flesh” is ridiculous. Any idiot knows that Jesus appeared in the flesh! But the KJB declares that GOD was manifest (or revealed) in the fleshly body of Jesus Christ. It angers many people when you promote the deity of Christ, thus the reason why ALL modern bibles attack Jesus’ deity.

    Again, the NLT perverts Philippians 2:5, 6…

    KJB – “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.”

    NLT – “Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God.”

    The NLT cleverly corrupted Philippians 2:6 by removing the word “equal.” In so doing, they have lowered Jesus to the God of the Jehovah Witnesses. JW’s teach that Jesus is “a god,” but not Almighty God, which is a lie of the Devil. By saying that Jesus is “equal” with God, the KJB is clearly declaring Christ as Almighty God.

    As further proof of the NLT attack on Jesus’ deity, look at Colossians 1:16…

    KJB – “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth…”

    NLT – “Christ is the one through whom God created everything in heaven and earth.”

    Blasphemy! The KJB declares that Jesus created all things, but the NLT wrongfully teaches that God created all things through Jesus. This is exactly what the Jehovah Witnesses cult teaches. JW’s deny Christ’s deity (as do most cults). JW’s teach that God created everything THROUGH Jesus. On the contrary, the KJB proclaims in Colossians 1:16 that Jesus Christ created all things Himself. It is wicked heresy to say that Jesus did not create the universe by His own Word. John 1:10 reads, “He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.” Sadly, the NLT perverts this Scripture also, claiming that God created the universe “through” Jesus instead of “by” Jesus as the Word of God teaches in the KJB. The JW’s would be proud of the NLT. Oh listen friend, you need to burn your NLT because it dishonors and dethrones the Lord Jesus Christ.

    NLT perverts Acts 12:4!

    The NLT perverts Acts 12:4 by changing “Easter” to “Passover.” Numbers 28:16,17 clearly teaches that the seven days of unleavened bread FOLLOWED the day of Passover. Acts 12:2 in the KJB tells us that the days of unleavened bread were already being observed, which means that the day of Passover was OVER! So when the NIV and the NLT say that Herod was waiting for the Passover in Acts 12:5, they are lying! The KJB wisely uses the proper word “Easter” because the Passover had already occurred.

    NLT completely removes the word “sodomite” from the Bible

    God describes homosexuals with the word “sodomite” for a reason. Jude 1:7 reads, “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” The word “sodomite” comes from the city of Sodom, a city so vile and wicked that God decided to utterly destroy it by reigning down fire and brimstone from Heaven. To call homosexuality, “sodomy,” implies the judgment of God upon the wicked sin of homosexuality.

    The modern definition of sodomy is NOT the Biblical definition. Sodomy in the Bible is defined as sex between two men, or two women (homosexuality and lesbianism). We read of the woeful homosexuality problem in Sodom in Genesis 19:4, 5. American society has plunged horribly into wickedness and apostasy, even to the extent of corrupting the Bible for the sake of being politically correct to make money. Now there’s even a homosexual bible.

    Get a King James Bible!

    The 1611 King James Bible is trustworthy. We don’t rewrite Shakespeare because we can’t understand the archaic English; rather, we study it in the beauty in which it was written. To retranslate Shakespeare into modern English would be a literary tragedy. This it is a woeful tragedy what modern Bible corrupters have done to God’s Word. In the King James Bible we have the preserved and inspired Word of God. The Bible is to be studied, not read like a comic book or magazine. Too many believers have bought into the lie that we need a new Bible, and another, and another… where will it end? …The Satanic Bible?

    • #33 by Anonymous on August 23, 2017 - 4:41 pm

      We really should all be using the Extreme Teen Bible.

  22. #34 by Bill on August 27, 2017 - 5:04 pm

    Can someone say “501c3” ? Look it up. These are not “churches” but rather corporations with “non profit” status. They are not subject to the reporting requirements as some charities which means that their books are not open to public inspection. Generally, their finances are secret. They pay no taxes on their revenue and their is no external oversight over what is done with the money. It is probably the most lucrative business on the planet. Unfortunately, it is the most rife with corruption.

  23. #35 by Anonymous on September 2, 2017 - 10:05 pm

    Eastside was one of the first churches in Fullerton to put a cell tower on its grounds. The Vista Del Sol complex is being adversely affected to this day. There has been a lot of cancer in that complex over the years as well as autism and down syndrome. No one really knows the tower is there because the Eastside never told anyone when it went it was installed and they hid it on the roof under the facade of its steeple.

  24. #36 by Anonymous on September 8, 2017 - 3:12 pm

    Eastside has a marvelous new campus, I must admit.

    • #37 by Anonymous on January 22, 2018 - 1:46 am

      If you like breathing asbestos…

  25. #38 by James Dozier on June 24, 2018 - 1:01 pm

    If you didn’t work at taco bell you could afford tickets to go see a spaceX launch and feel the heat of the rockets on your face..they even provide lunch lol. lol you flatties give me the best laugh. Let me educate you. First, Magellan proved it was round 500 years ago. 500 years later we have people like you claiming you are “woke” lol. If it was flat you could see Everest from your house with a good telescope or Hawaii from the west coast with a lesser telescope. Once a ship sails over the horizon not even the best telescope in the world can make it reappear FACT..even when it’s only 70 miles away. That alone proves you are wrong. But let me take it farther. If you are standing on Ninini point on Kauai the next island which is Oahu is only about 70 miles away. Not even the best telescope in the world can make Oahu appear even with a huge mountain on it. Thats a fact. We have had people travel AROUND the earth in boats, balloons, and planes. Don’t you think someone would have hit the dome by now? East/west for balloons, both east/west and north/south for planes and powered boats. Hmmmm….wonder why only east west for balloons and non powered boats? Lol I’ll let you try to learn that lesson on your has to do with the axis of the earth. Let’s continue. Curvature can be seen at 37k. EVERY pilot in the world that has been that high knows that’s a fact. There are thousands and thousands. My personal plane can go that high. Retired Army aviator AND commercial pilot of 19 years on top of that. We have had 3 people skydive from 130k feet with video. One of which I know personally as a fellow skydiver. Clearly round. Eclipses prove it’s round. Every other planet in our solar system is round. But we are flat right? Lol. We have rednecks shooting Coors light beer cans to 130k with video. Fyi… You can look up the location of the ISS anytime online and go outside on a clear night and see the ISS with your own eyes no telescope needed as it orbits overhead AROUND the earth. Along with other satellites. You can see DETAILED images from the moon orbiter of everything we left on the moon…flags, rover tracks, equipment, etc. Chris Hadfield is a family friend. He did in fact record his part of space oddity up there. Now we have spacex launching rockets all the time with THOUSANDS of eye witnesses. You can buy front row tickets and feel the heat of the rockets. While simultaneously watching video from space as the boosters come back in and land in front of your eyes. YES…there are things up there they don’t want us to see. That is true. Video cuts etc. Full disclosure is coming soon trust me. 911 WAS an inside job and no planes were used on the towers. That’s a fact. If you have the cash you can go take a ride in a Russian mig to 40k feet, loop over and see the round earth. GOD is gonna laugh with you when he shows you the world is round. Lucky for you he will love you just the same as us who know it’s round and space is real. You have ZERO facts against my FACTS I presented here. You have nothing. Don’t even try. The waters above the firmament very simply means water (oceans) above the bedrock (firmament). GOD himself will tell you and show you it’s round…and you will still argue it’s flat lol. Tell ya what. Come by Konshok field in Park Rapids MN anytime and ask for Jimmy. I’ll personally show you the curve for free in my 97 Beechcraft Super KingAir300 that can go to 38k feet on a good density altitude day. Spring or fall early winter would be the best conditions to reach maximum service ceiling. Lol you still wouldn’t believe it though…you will say NASA paid me and put holograms in my windows lol.

  26. #39 by Anonymous on September 10, 2018 - 8:11 am


    The KJV is not the inspired inerrant text. They have had 4 revisions for that translation. Quite frankly no translation can do justice to the original context of the text except the language it was originally written in which is Greek. Even then there are textual variants that you need to consider because of scribes. So when reading the Bible you actually need to study it carefully. The NLT is a teaching translation that allows people to understand the Bible in today’s context. All that Gene and other pastors are doing is taking something that applied to the early church and breaking it down into simpler terms for us today to understand what was going on. Does it lose some of its depth yes, but that’s why we study the Bible, we don’t just read it. If you’re really worried about the community gene is pastoring why don’t you visit their community and talk with their pastors. I’m sure they would like to hear your ideas on how to best serve the community they’ve been serving.

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