NASA’S TRILLION DOLLAR TREASON


NASA is nothing more than a masonic, occult and deeply satanic deception operation. It was founded by and run by Satanic devil worshiping occultists and black magicians.

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Do you really believe this jalopy traveled through space?

Where is the blast crater this pile of junk would have made?

 

The earth is flat and evolution is a lie from the pit of hell. The moon and the sun are roughly the same size, are at the same distance from and revolve around the earth JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS.

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The Bible clearly refers to the earth being a circle not a sphere and of course having a solid structure above it supporting waters ABOVE IT. Genesis 1:6 refers to the firmament. Even the pastors are in on this scam. Look the Bible is clear and the Hebrew is succinctly clear: The word RAQIA IS THE EXACT WORD IN GENESIS 1 verse 6. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO BY EVERYONE INVOLVED INCLUDING YOUR PASTOR.

רָקִיעַ noun masculineGenesis 1:6 extended surface, (solid)

2 the vault of heaven, or ‘firmament,’ regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting ‘waters’ above it, Genesis 1:6,7 (3 t. in verse);Genesis 1:8 (called שָׁמַיַם; all P), Psalm 19:2 (“” הַשָּׁמַיַם), ׳זֹהַר הָרDaniel 12:3; also ׳ר הַשָּׁמִיִם Genesis 1:14,15,17, ׳הַשּׁ ׳עַלמְּֿנֵי רGenesis 1:20 (all P). **רְקִיעַ עֻזּוֺ Psalm 150:1 (suffix reference to ׳י).

This is a Scriptural fact on cosmology. It represents a firm and impassable barrier between the world of man (below) and the abode of God (above).

“Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that [be] above the heavens.”
(Psalms 148:4 KJV)

The Hebrew word that is used in Isaiah 44:22 (חוּג, chug) does not at all imply a spherical earth. The root word only occurs in the Hebrew Bible once as a verb (Job 26:10). In nominal forms, the same root occurs four times, three as the noun חוּג (chug; Job 22:14, Prov 8:27, Isa 40:22), and once as the noun מְחוּגׇה(mechugah; Isa 44:13). This term refers to a “circle instrument,” a device used to make a circle, what we call a compass.

I DIDN’T WRITE THE BIBLE SO DON’T ARGUE WITH ME. It says what it says and there is a reason the sky is blue and the Milky Way looks like a tear in the dome because that is where the flood came from when the HEAVENS WERE OPENED FOR THE GREAT FLOOD OF NOAH. THE WATERS WERE AND ARE STILL ABOVE THE DOME. THE MILKY WAY THAT YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES CLEARLY SHOWS WHAT WAS ONCE A TEAR IN THE DOME.

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THESE ARE REAL PHOTOS OF WHERE THE TEAR WAS IN THE DOME. ANY OTHER IMAGES SHOWING SPIRALS ETC ARE NASA FAKES. ALL WE CAN SEE IS WHAT IS REAL-THE OPENING WHERE THE FLOOD WATERS ABOVE CAME DOWN DURING THE GREAT FLOOD.

You wonder why a 4,700 man military operation “operation high jump” was run to investigate the ice ring that surrounds the entire earth, then “operation fishbowl” was run to electrify and electrically charge the dome by detonating nuclear bombs hundreds of miles up in the atmosphere. This was necessary to perfect the microwave communications that are accomplished by bouncing a signal off of the dome.

Once they were successful, the atmospheric test ban was signed, the Antarctic treaty was signed keeping it off limits, then NASA was formed to monopolize  and fake space images and control exploration as space was militarized making it off limits, and then the fake space program served up to keep our eyes on their lies like the totally faked moon landings. How many astronauts were murdered to keep the lid on this fraud.  FULLERTON HAS AN ASTRONAUT PARK NAMED AFTER EACH ONE OF THEM.

NASA is a Military-Hollywood-Pseudoscience-Satanic Cartel, whose true purpose is to deceive and fleece the masses. Through, in some cases elaborate, trick photography and in most cases not, with the help of the media mind control master and the educational system, they inculcate an atheistic world view with all of the rote repetition of a spinning ball earth in a heliocentric universe that is the diametric opposite of the Biblical truth of the world we actually live in. NASA EXISTS TO SUBTLY GET HUMANITY TO REMOVE GOD OUT OF EVERYTHING BY RUNNING COMPLETE INTERFERENCE WITH PURE SATANIC AND OCCULT DECEPTION RIGHT IN YOUR FACES and of course to siphon trillions dollars into black budget secret programs such as advanced technologies, weaponries and massive underground facilities.

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Question: Why do those living in the Southern Hemisphere see the moon upside down in relation to those living in the Northern Hemisphere?  Does this not prove that the Earth is round?

Answer: The difference in the way that the moon appears to those in the north versus those in the south is simply due to perspective, not the Earth’s rotundity.  Because the moon’s path generally follows the equator (staying between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn), those south of the equator view it from a different angle than those north of the equator.  It is drastically oversimplified to say that that those in the south see the moon “upside down” in relation to those in the north.  In reality, the moon’s perceived orientation will be slightly different from every viewing angle.

The significance of viewing perspective can easily be demonstrated by the following:

  1. Walk to one side of the room.
  2. Look up at the light on your ceiling.  (Imagine this light is the moon.)
  3. Now, move to the opposite side of the room.  (When you do this, imagine you are crossing the equator, and moving into the other “hemisphere.”
  4. When you turn around and look up at the light [moon] now, it will appear upside down from your original perspective.  The side that was originally opposite your view is now closest to you.

Flat Earth - Moon Orientation

It is drastically oversimplified to say that that those in the south see the moon “upside down” in relation to those in the north.  In reality, the moon’s perceived orientation will be slightly different from every viewing angle.  In the above image, those in the north will see “A” more as the top and “B” more as the bottom.  Those in the south will see “B” more as the top and “A” more as the bottom.  (Bear in mind that the moon is being viewed from beneath.  Perspective makes it appear that the closest side is the “top.”)

 

NASA engages in total fraud and while they use taxpayer funding to promote  and profit by developing and deploying pseudoscience technology and methodology leading the gullible masses to hide, confuse, refute or discount the God of the Bible, His Truth and His creation. That is their real mission. Like their boss, lucifer, they are liars, thieves and murderers. This is what we live on and this is how this Divine time piece works.

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YES AND THIS IS ALL WHILE SCHOOLS TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO BE IDIOTS WITH LIE AFTER LIE AS THEY FORCE YOUR CHILDREN TO BE INJECTED WITH STERILIZING TOXIC METALLIC NANO TECH VACCINES, FORCE THEM TO BE STERILIZED BY WIRELESS MICROWAVE CLASSROOM EMISSIONS, TO BELIEVE THERE IS NO GOD, AND HOW TO BE THE ULTIMATE FORM OF CHATTEL PROPERTY ALL THE WHILE THEY TURN THEM INTO SELFISH, SEX CRAZED, MATERIALISTIC, STATIST, SATANICALLY MIND CONTROLLED MEDIA SLAVES THAT NOW COMPRISE THE BIGGEST FLOCK OF SHEEP HEADED FOR SLAUGHTER IN HUMAN HISTORY.

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Water is always level. Plumb is perpendicular to the level so the earth cannot be a sphere. Using the angles from shadows from goal posts and standard grade trigonometry you can show sun is close by in the sky above. The world is flat and motionless. The biggest proof of spherical earth was NASA. Hindenburg was another hoax to stop people using balloons which are cheap! We live in the Trueman show in arrested development. Aeronautics is stagnant and has been for years. The world is run by actors. Our reality is not holographic but is illusory nonetheless. Our perceptions are managed from childhood. History is fabricated.

NASA’s dead astronauts that are still alive and well from the Sandy Hook of the 80’s

NASA challenger crew still alive and well

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 Yes gravity can hold the oceans on a supposed ball spinning 1000 miles an hour yet it can’t hold a mosquito on the ground. Thousands of supposed satellites and not one real image of the earth from space, just artist renderings and CGI’s. 7th grade trig puts the sun at 3100 miles away with a white moon getting its light from an orange sun. Tides affect the oceans yet not the great lakes. The flight paths are a total joke until you plot them on the flat earth map that the UN uses for its flag and all of a sudden they become straight lines. Well if that isnt enough to stretch your imagination, NASA keeps insulting your intelligence with more lies.

JUST LOOK AT THIS RECENT NASA PHOTO AND THE EARTH’S SIZE SUPPOSEDLY TAKEN FROM A MILLION MILES AWAY in mid July 2015 WITH THE MOST MODERN ADVANCED EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE. IT SHOWS A MASSIVE EARTH AND A SMALL MOON FROM A MILLION MILES AWAY ? DONT TRUST ME, LOOK THESE UP FOR YOURSELF-

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NASA IMAGE FROM JULY 2015 SUPPOSEDLY 1 MILLION MILES FROM EARTH

OPEN YOUR EYES AND ASK YOURSELF WHAT KIND OF TRILLION DOLLAR TREASON IS THIS?

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FOOTAGE FROM APOLLO 11 1969

NOW COMPARE IT TO THE ONE FROM 40+ YEARS AGO SUPPOSEDLY TAKEN FROM THE MOON-THE EARTH SHOULD APPEAR TO BE MASSIVE! THIS IS A TOTAL JOKE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. HOW CAN NASA BE SO STUPID? DO THEY FORGET WHAT THEY LIED ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO? OR IS IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE BECOME SO STUPID AND WOULD NEVER QUESTION ANY OF THIS. 

HATE ME, GET PISSED AT ME I DONT CARE-JUST ASK YOUR FIVE YEAR OLD THIS QUESTION.  DOES AN OBJECT APPEAR TO GET SMALLER AS IT GETS FARTHER AWAY?

HOW CAN THE EARTH, WHEN LOOKED AT FROM THE MOON, APPEAR TO BE SMALL, YET WHEN THE EARTH IS LOOKED AT FROM BEHIND THE MOON EVEN FURTHER AWAY, THE EARTH APPEARS TO BE MASSIVE?  IT DEFIES LOGIC.

-THESE PHOTOS ALONG WITH THE REST OF NASA’S COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES ARE ALL FAKE-PERIOD.

IF YOU WERE ON THE MOON, EVEN CLOSER TO THE EARTH, THE EARTH WOULD APPEAR EVEN BIGGER THAN THIS NASA FAKE FROM THE FAKED MOON LANDING-JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTO BELOW THIS ONE AGAIN

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WHAT KIND OF PERSPECTIVE IS THIS?

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IT IS THE PERSPECTIVE OF BEING UNABLE TO THINK. LOOK AT THE TINY EARTH FROM THE FAKE PICTURES SUPPOSEDLY TAKEN FROM THE MOON 40 YEARS AGO-

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NASA is nothing more than a masonic, occult and deeply satanic deception operation. It was founded by Satanic worshiping occultists and black magicians.

NASA is a Military-Hollywood-Pseudoscience-Satanic Cartel, whose true purpose is to deceive and fleece the masses. Through, in some cases elaborate, trick photography and in most cases not, and mind control hoaxes, they inculcate an atheistic world view with all of the rote repetition of a spinning ball earth in a heliocentric universe that is the diametric opposite of the Biblical truth of the world we actually live in. They engage in total fraud and while they use taxpayer funding to promote and profit by developing and deploying pseudoscience technology and methodology leading the gullible masses to discount the real God of the Bible and His creation. That is their real mission. Like their boss, lucifer, they are liars thieves and murderers. Misery loves company.

THE MOON LANDINGS WERE A TOTAL FAKE BORDERING ON A TOTAL JOKE-

https://thefullertoninformer.com/a-paper-moon/

 

VIRGIL “GUS” GRISSOM WAS JUST ONE OF MANY KILLED TO KEEP THIS LIE GOING. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT EVERYTHING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IF THEY WILL LIE ABOUT THIS, THERE IS NO END TO THE DECEPTION AND THE DEPTHS WE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN TO. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

Instinct is something which transcends knowledge. We have, undoubtedly, certain finer fibers that enable us to perceive truths when logical deduction, or any other willful effort of the brain, is futile.” –NIKOLA TESLA

HAVE THE EDUCRAT LACKEYS FINISHED OFF YOUR CHILDREN’S ABILITY TO THINK WITH MIND BENDING ROTE REPETITION OF USELESS CRAP THAT THEY CALL AN EDUCATION JUST SO THEY CAN GET A JOB DEVELOPING WEAPONIZED TECHNOLOGY  OR POISONOUS MEDICATIONS TO SOFT KILL THE UNSUSPECTING ?

HAVE THE EDUCRAT LACKEYS WITH THEIR RIDICULOUS BS SCIENCE FINISHED OFF YOUR CHILDREN’S INNATE INSTINCTS THAT GOD CREATED THEM AS WELL AS EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD? HAVE THE EDUCRAT LACKEYS FINISHED OF YOUR CHILDREN’S CONNECTION TO THE ONE WHO PUT THE 75,000 MILES OF CIRCULATORY SYSTEM IN THE INCREDIBLE BODIES?

THEY ARE LYING TO US ABOUT EVERYTHING FOLKS AS THEY FORCIBLY INJECT YOUR CHILDREN, POISON THE WATER AND FOOD, SPRAY THE SKIES WITH LINE AFTER LINE OF AEROSOLIZED CHEMTRAILS, AND DROWN YOU ALL IN A COCKTAIL OF BOOZE, PILLS, PORN, LACED FAKE FOODS, ASPARTAME LACED BEVERAGES AND ENDLESS STERILIZING ZOMBIFYING WIRELESS EMISSIONS.

THIS IS ALL A SATANIC DECEPTION TO GET GOD OUT OF THE PICTURE SO THEY CAN TELL YOU ALL THAT YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A BUNCH OF ACCIDENTS AND ANIMALS SO THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND TURN YOU ALL INTO A BUNCH OF ANIMALS, TREAT YOU LIKE A BUNCH OF ANIMALS, AND CAREFULLY ENGINEER YOUR DEMISE TO APPEAR TO BE AN ACCIDENT-IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING. LOOK AROUND!

OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE THE SCREEN TIME INDUCED MACULAR DEGENERATION MAKES IT NO LONGER POSSIBLE TO PERCEIVE REALITY THE WAY A FIVE YEAR OLD DOES WITH THE GOD GIVEN GIFT OF HIS TWO EYEBALLS HALF CLOSED.

http://www.zengardner.com/occult-roots-nasa-ongoing-fraud/

The Bible is either wrong or NASA is wrong. Either The Bible is a lie or NASA is a lie. The Bible clearly states the earth is flat covered by a dome. NASA claims the earth is round and revolves around the sun.  From ancient civilizations to modern times we are told that the earth is flat with a dome Hebrew, Ancient Egyptian, Babylonians, Chinese, Indians, Greeks, Poets, Philosophers, Historians and modern evidences tell us that the earth is flat. So why does everyone believe what NASA tells us? Which one is it? You decide whether or not The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork..

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The government has had a monopoly over the media, press and academia for decades.

Couple that with the 13 years of compulsory education mandated to indoctrinate every man woman and child in the US and you have little room for debate or do we? The Universities and the academic intellencia take it up on a logarithmic scale and yet the only photos of the earth from so called space or satellites are ALL ARTIST RENDERINGS OR COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES. Your eyes and your basic instincts tell us the sun and the moon are the same size, located very close to us as the naked eye cannot see a moon  crater 40 miles across 238,000 miles away, that the oceans cannot stay on a 1000 mile per hour spinning ball and that the 75,000 miles of circulatory system did not get into our bodies by accident. Yet we submit our bodies and minds to those who deny that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

It is the school district personnel who teach just that. These are the ones who cement the lies after, through endless rote repetition, they ram the fables deep into the impressionable minds of the children. Do they know what they are part of? How can it be that reasonable, logical people that supposedly are the critical thinkers take part in such a vile endeavor, that is the teaching of the lie of evolution? What are these people thinking? They are not. They are walking lockstep with the machine that turns out children who do not know or believe in God and who can no longer think and interpret what is right in front of their eyes even though The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

The school district personnel are all in on it, every last one of them. Where are all the so called  moral giants, or the so called christian teachers and staff? Why are they silent? Where is their fiece vocal opposition to these flat out lies? Yes they are all part of a regressive, massive dehumanization and sterilization agenda, drugging the children with vision destroying technology,

WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO YOUR CHILDREN?

We know that the technology push in schools is being called a 60 billion dollar hoax. It is actually a 60 billion dollar success because what Time magazine wont tell you is that the 60 billion dollar educational hoax is truly a hoax, The fact is that it is a 60 billion dollar deployment of a weaponized microwave system designed to sterilize your children. Yes they are all part of a regressive, massive, reproductive organ destroying wireless classroom technology forced irradiation program that is turning them into satanic video game addicts, teaching them the lies of evolution, the lie that there is no God, that wireless is harmless and that vaccines are safe and not part of a eugenics agenda. Does it logically follow that the school district personnel are not the most dangerous and evil people alive right now because of what they are doing to all the children? Yes you heard me the same ones doing this are the ones who hide that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork..

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They sit back and remain silent on the brain damaging sterilization by the forced microwave exposure in the classrooms, refusing to warn parents, accept information and warn the students. They are silent on the perversion being foisted on our children, they are silent on the forced vaccinations that are now part of school entry requirements. They are silent on the lies of evolution, silent on the dehumanization of children they are taking part in and silent on everything that matters except when it comes to their paltry paychecks. Go look out in front of the high schools in Fullerton right now and you will see these overpaid lackeys pissed off about the fact the $125,000 a year is not enough for 6 1/2 hour workdays for less than half the year as they lock the children out of class for tutoring and college letter of recommendation writing.

https://thefullertoninformer.com/troy-high-school-teachers-abruptly-close-door-to-students/

Yes of course That is when they speak up while they all ignore that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

Firmament does not refer to empty air, a blue sky or a level of the atmosphere, it refers to a physical structure. It refers to the dome that covers the earth, and stated as such in some Bible translations. Yes it is the dome that no rocket ship or 33rd degree mason phony astronaut con job clown has ever passed through with a fake spaceship that really just crashed down in the ocean right after it launched.

The firmament sheweth His handy work. Why hide the dome from us? Why discredit the first chapter of The Bible? Because the total bull crap of evolution folds like a bad hand when people that have been so dumbed down to believe it in the first place realize that a dome over us means that someone put it there and put us under it. Thank the school district personell for all this moral relativism, political correctness, joke science and of course the 65 shots in your children’s bloodstreams and the wireless device in their laps. How long are all you parents and school district sycophants and lackeys going to go along with all of this or are you too going to ignore that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

And yes, there are the doctors, with their academic arrogance, who think the man in the sky is some sort of a joke. In Fullerton look no further than the most outspoken enemies of God in town who mock God, and whose wife publicly calls for ending prayer at public meetings while they both push for the forced irradiation of school children all over California. Just look how and where all that education got those two who publicly ignore and protest that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

I guess the the toxic drugs, toxic treatments and eugenicist shots, are right there behind all of them to help guide the way. Look what these closed minded automaton school district and medical establishment thugs have done to you, your friends, your parents and are now doing to an entire generation of children as these get their body, soul, health and spirit sucked to hell by the well coordinated orchestration of all of the aforementioned on their watch with their blessing.

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. -The words of Jesus Christ.

Actually It applies to all of them, especially to the nurses and social workers that are putting all these children on medication when what they really need is the knowledge that God made them and God loves them. No such luck at school where they are taught starting in kindergarten that they can have two dads, two moms, that they came from animals, rocks, monkeys and muck and became what they are as a result of some cosmic accident with their faces glued to screens all day and night while they ignore, forget or simply cannot fathom that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

I challenge all of you to consider what has been the norm in our brainwashed society and open your eyes to the ancient wisdom so timelessly established in God’s word that to this very day, remains under attack from some of the most evil people in all of human history who subvert the fact that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

How can a student of the Bible, or even a seminary graduate, believe and even instruct the flock that science has proven The Bible to be in error? How do you ignore chapter 1 when your entire business model is built around the contents of this book? Yes even the dumbed down phony pastors and the pickpocket preachers in the phony churches that go along with all of this for a few measly bucks just so they can sleep in everyday and ignore that The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

You will never hear a sermon on Genesis 1 that tells the truth about what we actually live on or one that exposes:

NASA’S TRILLION DOLLAR TREASON

If they can con everyone into believing that there is no God, that we all came from rocks, that we are all animals, that there is no purpose to any of this, then I can assure you ladies and gentlemen, they will treat us like rocks and animals. Sadly with the forced vaccinations, the satanic media, the disgusting fake toxic food, the booze, pills, dope, porn, the wireless emissions beaming through our walls, forced into the laps of children at school, the dosed water, the sprayed skies and the outright lies of the educational and medical system that ARE IN DIAMETRIC OPPOSITION to the Word of God, we are already in dire straights in need of a massive and abrupt about face. The second biggest lie ever told is right here before your eyes. Please open them before you end up spending eternity in darkness. The Bible is true, the earth is flat and anyone who tells you otherwise is simply a victim of an educational system that is designed to promulgate regression disguised as intellectual prowess flanked by foolishness that remains bound up in the child that they can never admit they still are. Take 25 minutes and judge for yourself. The lies have it ladies and gentlemen, and they also have your children all by the throat. It is time to break the grip. The day has finally arrived. The choice is yours.

  1. #1 by Rover on August 16, 2015 - 9:18 pm

    you are a fuckwit!

    • #2 by You are the offspring of two on February 2, 2017 - 1:19 pm

      “Maintain a lie or secret for one generation and the next generartion becomes easy pickings, particularly if the lie is echoed in school textbooks, TV cartoons, The History and Discovery Channels. Confuse one generation and the next will happily ingest the media gruel prepared for them.” ~ Elana Freeland

      • #3 by Anonymous on June 10, 2017 - 11:50 pm

        The most incredibly interesting conspiracy I have ever been exposed to in my entire life. Really spinning my head right now. Either this is some huge psyop or we are really in deep.

  2. #4 by Anonymous on August 22, 2015 - 9:41 am

    NASA photos are clearly fake, just like the Apollo moon landings. Anyone who believes we’ve been to the moon is as naive and gullible as a 3 yr. old.

    https://youtu.be/DMdhQsHbWTs Just look at the 15 sec. mark and you see two little white dots appear and disappear at the exact same time, one on the left side of Earth and one on the right. I’m sure that was a mistake or glitch, making it that much more believable that it’s a fake. The Goddard Space Flight Centers estimate that there are 2,271 satellites orbiting Earth. Where are they in this video? It’s hard for me to believe that with this view of Earth there is not ONE satellite that’s visible out of over 2,000. I know that light pollution can interfere with the visibility of low lit objects, but come on now…NOT ONE SINGLE STAR? From Earth we can see thousands through our atmosphere but you mean to tell me that in space stars aren’t visible? Every planetary photo they release have no stars in the background. NASA has duped a lot of people.

    • #5 by Anonymous on February 3, 2017 - 3:14 pm

      All communication feeds that allegedly came from the Moon on the alleged first Man on the Moon transmission originated from one feed at NASA. This feed was played on television screens where all TV broadcasters had film the television screens instead of the TV broadcasters having direct access to the feed. They had to film the monitor that had the NASA feed and were not allowed direct access to the feed. Why? Utter fraud.

  3. #6 by Anonymous on August 22, 2015 - 11:21 am

    NASA is a total fraud. What the hell are they doing with all of the money?

    • #7 by Anonymous on August 23, 2015 - 8:25 pm

      WTF?

  4. #8 by Robert on August 27, 2015 - 12:45 pm

    Are you telling me that no one died during the Challenger disaster? Come on.

  5. #9 by Anonymous on August 27, 2015 - 8:52 pm

    More bullshit from a nut job

    • #10 by Time for your nap. on August 29, 2015 - 10:05 pm

      Put your head down and go back to sleep. When you awake, you can stuff your face with some Twinkies.

    • #11 by Anonymous on April 27, 2017 - 9:49 am

      CERN puts out a video called “DANCE OF DESTRUCTION” and people still don’t get it!
      Are you kidding me???
      What part of the word DESTRUCTION do they not understand???
      and you have a company put out a drink called Monster with the scratch/slash marks that are actually 3 hebrew letters called Vav’s (6’s) and the slogan “UNLEASH THE BEAST” on it and everyone just goes “hey aint that cool looking”!!!
      Satan really does have many in a trance or dumbed down!

  6. #12 by Flat Earth on August 28, 2015 - 10:03 pm

    Flat Earth:Confessions of An Airline Pilot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaUBrui9L1I

  7. #13 by He's right-again on August 30, 2015 - 11:12 am

    Check out this playlist on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL87BD99395C7513BC

  8. #14 by Joe Imbriano on August 30, 2015 - 8:32 pm

    NASA lies on your dime grandparents dimes

    Apollo Investigation
    A Stereoscopic method of verifying Apollo lunar surface images

    University Kharkiv by OLEG OLEYNIK, Ph.D.c
    Previously of the Department of Physics and Technology
    Kharkov State University, Ukraine

    Photographs taken on the lunar surface during the Apollo missions are regarded as the most compelling pieces of evidence that mankind went to the Moon.

    The photographic validation method presented here is based on the detection of two-dimensional objects among three-dimensional objects, and determining the mutual arrangement of these objects in space and the distance to them by applying a technique known as stereoscopic parallax.

    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

  9. #15 by Joe Imbriano on August 30, 2015 - 8:39 pm

    The Apollo 15 photographic record contradicts the stereoscopic parallax verification method. The apparent change in the relative positions of objects by moving the camera when the camera angles are separated by several tens of cms show that:
    the distance to distant objects such as mountains is not tens of kilometres but is no more
    than a few hundred metres;
    the landscape is not continuous, but with clear lines of separation;
    there is movement between nearby sections of the panorama relative to other sections.
    Thus, based on the above examples, this study concludes that the Apollo 15 photographic record does NOT depict real lunarscapes with distant backgrounds located more than a kilometre away from the camera.

    These pictures were, without doubt, taken in a studio set – up to 300 metres in size. A complex panorama mimicking the lunarscape shows degrees of movement, such as horizontal and vertical changes to give an impression of imaginary distance to the objects and perspective.

    Dr Oleg Oleynik

  10. #16 by Joe Imbriano on September 27, 2015 - 11:47 am

    Everything that NASA does is chock full of dark magic and alchemy. The real purpose of NASA is completely hidden in plain view from the masses. For decades at NASA, compartmentalization has kept the employees in the dark. This process also involves the creation of Satanic ritual magic enabling the Illuminati elite to acquire and accumulate power even as the mind-controlled and manipulated masses of the scientific dictatorship of distraction are pushed into ever increasing states of altered consciousness from flicker rate manipulated screens everywhere, spell castings from the music and the brain fog from the booze, pills, dope, crap food and wireless emissions.

  11. #17 by Anonymous on September 28, 2015 - 10:01 pm

    This is the greatest cover up of all time and Freemasonry’s biggest secret and it is all brought to you by NASA. Joe what do you think they do with all the money?

    • #18 by Joe Imbriano on September 29, 2015 - 9:08 am

      Masonic occult luciferian NASA stole 30 billion in 1960’s US dollars for the fake moon landings and have stolen 100’s of billions more to feed us intelligence insulting ridiculous computer generated images that are a complete joke.

      Removing the earth from its position as the center of the universe at which all the celestial bodies revolve removes the special significance we have been given as created beings in the image of God. They have turned humanity into a random, meaningless, purposeless accidental race of a creatures that supposedly resulted from a blind deaf and dumb explosion of inanimate objects that just so happen to have coalesced into a race of animals that they have convince us to think that we are so they can treat us like animals. Look around as you are all being reduced to just that. Look at the lies, look at media, look at the movies, music, pills, booze, drugs, perversion, violence, witchcraft, debauchery, corruption, bloodletting, sorcery and just pure unbridled unadulterated evil that they are jamming down your and your children’s throats every day and night on the radio, TV, in the schools, video games etc.

      Brainwashing us with a form of trauma based barbaric mind control beating the divinity out of us with their logic defying abusive mental manipulation turning the most intelligent of all of Gods creation into vasal slaves that have been rendered incapable of believing what they see with their very own eyes.

      By planting us all on a supposed ball earth spinning at 1000 miles per hour hurling through space at 50,000 miles per hour around the sun as a result of some coalescing blob of matter from an accidental unorganized godless big bang event, the globe earth random chance atheistic evolutionists have reduced humanity into is debased godless state of confusion and emotional bondage to their order of Malthusian luminary high priests of satanic lies denying God in everything they do, speak, publish, print, paint, portray and pander to all of you who cannot open your eyes to the fact that what you are standing on is motionless,is no accident, and that there is One who will judge us all.

      • #19 by Anonymous on September 29, 2015 - 4:21 pm

        You actually think a huge conspiracy of this magnitude is even possible to carry out?

      • #20 by 33 degrees of separation on June 17, 2016 - 3:18 am

        Do We Live on a Flat Earth with a Solid Dome Over It?
        By the Rev. Peter J. Wallace
        November 15, 2000

        The Bible presents the world as a flat disc with a solid dome over it. Every biblical representation of the earth is consistent with this model, and there is no biblical material to the contrary. Apart from the study of general revelation, there would be no reason to doubt this. If you read the biblical text apart from any modern scientific assumptions, this becomes particularly clear.

        1. The Solid Dome

        God created a firmament (raqia) in the midst of the waters, dividing the waters from the waters, so that there are waters above and below this raqia (Genesis 1:6). This raqia appears to be a solid object, because it is that which divides the waters above from the waters beneath. If the raqia were not there, then the waters above would come pouring down. The raqia is called “heaven” which explains why Genesis 7:11 refers to water pouring out of the windows of heaven. At the flood, God opened the windows of heaven, and the waters above came pouring down. Yet as we will see, those waters are still there, which means that the raqia still holds back those waters.

        In Genesis 1:14-18, God creates lights in the raqia of the heavens, suggesting that the sun, moon and stars are fixed in the raqia. On the other hand, in Genesis 1:20, God creates birds to fly “across the face” of the raqia of the heavens. Again, the picture is entirely consistent with the idea of a solid dome. The term “al-pene” is used consistently to refer to concrete entities. Since there is no concept of outer space or atmosphere in Scripture, it would be entirely foreign to the biblical world-view to conceive of the raqia as invisible “space.” The raqia is entirely visible (that blue thing up there), and is consistently portrayed as a solid object that covers the (flat) earth.

        This raqia is described in several other passages of Scripture :

        Exodus 24:10-“And they saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, and it was like the substance of heaven in its clarity.” (Literally, “as the bones of the heavens in purity.”) This suggests that Moses conceived of the raqia-named “heaven”-as a solid substance much like sapphire. And further, it is unlikely that such an analogy would develop if the people of God believed that the raqia was anything except a solid structure. (Incidentally, the LXX translated this “like the firmness of the heavens in purity”-stereoma means solid body or foundation, and can be used metaphorically to refer to something that is steadfast).

        Job 37:18-“With Him, have you spread out the skies, strong as a cast metal mirror?” This is plainly demonstrates that the biblical authors thought of the skies-the heavens-as a solid object. Since the historical accounts in Genesis and Exodus provide solid ground for seeing the firmament as a solid object, these poetical references only bolster this conclusion. After all, if they conceived of the firmament as empty space, they would be unlikely to use images such as this in their poetry.

        Psalm 104:2-“He lays the beams of His upper chambers in the waters” suggesting that the waters above the raqia are still far below God’s dwelling place.

        Psalm 148:4-“Praise Him you heaven of heavens, and you waters above the heavens!” This plainly states that the waters above the heavens are still there. The flood did not exhaust them. They still give praise to the Lord.

        Psalm 150:1-“Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in the firmament of his power.” A parallel here is made between the Holy place and the firmament. Each is a dome under which God rules and is worshiped. The earthly sanctuary is a picture of the whole earth-and indeed of the heavenly sanctuary.

        Isaiah 40:22-“It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” Here the heavens are compared to a tent or a curtain-solid objects which cover a flat surface; the term circle is never used to describe a ball or globe. Indeed it is also used in

        Proverbs 8:27: “When he prepared the heavens, I was there, when He drew a circle on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above…when He marked out the foundations of the earth.”

        Isaiah 44:24-“who stretches out the heavens all alone.”

        Isaiah 45:12-“I-My hands-stretched out the heavens.”

        Jeremiah 10:12-“And has stretched out the heavens at his discretion. When he utters His voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens.” Remember that the raqia is named “heaven.” Therefore when Isaiah and Jeremiah say that God has stretched out the heavens, they are referring to the raqia-and Jeremiah even suggests that there are waters in that raqia.

        Ezekiel 1:22, 26-“The likeness of the firmament above the heads of the living creatures was like the color of an awesome crystal, stretched out over their heads…And above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone.” Here, referring back to the Exodus passage, the firmament is portrayed as a canopy above the living creatures above which is set the sapphire throne. God’s throne is at the summit of the raqia. God sits enthroned in the heavens (Ps. 2:4, 8:1, 57:5, 103:19, Is 40:22, Ps 150:1., etc.), as he sits on the dome of the heavens, ruling over all he has made. So when Psalm 8 says that God’s glory is set above the heavens, it is not referring to some distant place, light-years away, but to the pinnacle of the raqia (that blue thing up there that keeps all that water from destroying us), where God’s throne is.

        Zechariah 12:1-“Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him.”

        Revelation 4:1-John sees a door open in the heavens, and he goes up and sees a throne. Naturally this means that he is seeing God’s throne which sits at the pinnacle of the raqia. Sure enough, he is able to look down and see the sea of glass (4:6; cf. 15:2)–which you would expect to see if there was a solid raqia above the earth. Yet he can see through the sea of glass to see all that is happening on the earth.

        From these passages it is clear that the biblical authors thought of the blue dome over the earth as a solid object. This was plainly the belief and teaching of the church from Moses through the middle ages-long after the realization that the earth was not flat.

        2. The Flat Earth

        The flatness of the earth is portrayed in several places. It is nowhere stated in a blunt fashion as is the solidness of the raqia, but it is clearly the assumption behind the descriptions in the following passages:

        Genesis 1:6-10-After God created the raqia to separate the waters above from the waters below, he separates the dry ground from the waters below. There is no indication that this is a globe hanging in outer space. Instead, since the waters under the firmament are gathered together into one place, the picture is that under this dome there are two (and only two) environments: water and dry land. Earth, after all, is not the name of the planet. It is only the name of the dry ground.

        Job 37:3-“He sends it forth under the whole heaven, His lightning to the ends [wing, extremity, corner] of the earth.”

        Psalm 104:5-You who laid the foundations of the earth, so that it should not be moved forever, You covered it with the deep as with a garment; The waters stood above the mountains. At Your rebuke they fled; at the voice of Your thunder they hastened away.”

        Isaiah 11:12-“And gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (compare Ezekiel 7:2-the four corners of the land)

        Revelation 7:1-“After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth.”

        Job 9:6-“He shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble; He commands the sun, and it does not rise; He seals off the stars; He alone spreads out the heavens.”

        Psalm 19:1,4-6-“The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows His handiwork. Their line has gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun, which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices like a strong man to run its race. Its rising is from one end of heaven, and its circuit to the other end; and there is nothing hidden from its heat.” (This language plainly indicates that the sun begins his day in one place and ends his day in another place.)

        Joshua 10:13-14-“So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.”

        These passages are entirely consistent with the picture of a flat earth, and a literal reading of them would result in the belief that the earth is flat. Indeed, this was the belief of all people who read them until the study of general revelation indicated that the earth was round.

        Another implication from these passages is the idea of geocentricity. The passages cited above plainly indicate that the earth does not move. This, after all, was the primary theological objection to Copernicus and Galileo-since they insisted that the sun was at the center of the solar system. The Roman Church was exegetically correct. Scripture does indeed present us with a geocentric picture of creation. The question is whether general revelation can cause us to question our exegesis.

        The biblical authors present the earth as flat. Not one whit of special revelation indicates anything else. The language of foundations, pillars, corners, tents, and firmaments all indicate a flat earth with a solid dome over it. The history of biblical interpretation bears this out. The rabbis debated the thickness of the raqia, and Robert Grosseteste, as late as the 13th century claimed that it was the plain teaching of the scripture and the church that there was a solid dome above the earth (see Robert Letham’s article “‘In the Space of Six Days’: The Days of Creation from Origen to the Westminster Assembly” Westminster Theological Journal 61 (1999) 149-174). No one questioned the flatness of the earth until people studied general revelation. Few questioned the solid dome above the earth until Copernicus and Gallileo challenged the Ptolemaic system. In the former case, the scholars were pagans; in the latter case they were Christians. The study of general revelation caused biblical scholars to question whether they had properly understood special revelation. There were no exegetical grounds for believing in a round earth. Indeed, exegesis would seem to indicate that the earth is flat. Likewise, exegesis plainly indicates that there is a solid blue dome over the earth-but upon scientific investigation, we have discovered that this blue dome is caused by refraction of the sun’s light! The study of general revelation may indeed cause us to question whether our traditional exegesis is in fact what the Word of God demand that we believe. Anyone who denies this must believe that the earth is flat, does not move, and has a solid dome above it.

        On the other hand, if we admit that the Bible uses figurative language, and recognize that the biblical authors were speaking in the terms of simple observation, there is no dilemma. I look up at the sky. It’s blue. What else is blue? Water. Oh, of course, there must be water up there! Therefore there must be a clear or blue, solid barrier which keeps the waters from drowning me. I walk around on the earth. I don’t fall off. In my everyday life I assume that the earth is flat. The sun rises and the sun sets. I’m not spinning around. I don’t get dizzy!

        Why do we expect the biblical authors to have access to modern scientific information? Do we really think that science is that important? Do we really think that science matters so much that God HAD to reveal it to Moses, David, and the prophets? What they say is true–from a simple observational perspective. I refuse to elevate science into a canon of biblical interpretation. It may cause us to reconsider our traditional exegesis, but we should not let it force us to distort what the Scripture says.

        Scripture calls us to see the earth as the center of the physical universe. Scripture calls us to see the earth as a flat surface with a solid dome over it. It turns out that these statements are figurative, but they are no less true because of it. The earth is the center of the physical universe not in a physical sense, but in a spiritual sense. As a picture of heaven, it points to the centrality of heaven in the totality of reality. Likewise, we are to understand that there is a solid dome over the earth that protects us from the waters of chaos and destruction. Every time we see a rainbow we are to remember this. The rainbow-like the firmament-is a symbol of God’s power in protecting his people. If it turns out that the blue dome above us is not literally solid, that does not shake our confidence that God put it there to remind us that he is the one who pours out wrath and blessing. Every time we see it we are to remember his mercy and power.

        • #21 by Anonymous on June 17, 2016 - 9:28 am

          Well that is assuming you believe everything in that book. NASA has far more advanced technology that a bunch of goat and sheep herders from thousands of years ago. Science disproves much of these fairy tales.

        • #22 by Anonymous on June 17, 2016 - 4:39 pm

          Using the bible as a science textbook is hilarious.

          • #23 by 33 degrees of separation on June 17, 2016 - 10:11 pm

            Using a science book as a Bible is an awful mistake with eternal consequences

            • #24 by Anonymous on June 17, 2016 - 10:56 pm

              Good thing no one does that, because that would be silly!

        • #25 by Tu Pak on November 15, 2016 - 8:12 pm

          The average Joe can barely find the beer aisle in the store while the average Jane can’t even get the microwave to cook the frozen food evenly, while the average Stewey has already figured out how to get past the firewall and download all the porn. The odds of getting people to understand this concept are almost on par with those of a coked out drunk with three hookers on each arm managing to accidentally find his way into a church at 7 o’clock on Sunday morning. You really need to consider the intellectual capacity of most cuz it just ain’t there for people.

  12. #26 by Anonymous on September 30, 2015 - 6:25 am

    Joe,

    This is the video where I believe NASA has been filming the Mars rover vids.

    Check out this video on YouTube:

    http://youtu.be/NpdBSrANbb4

    • #27 by Anonymous on September 30, 2015 - 2:39 pm

      Wow, and it just so happens the terrain is identical to that of the Mars footage NASA provides.

    • #28 by Joe Imbriano on September 30, 2015 - 11:29 pm

      Thank you for this link. It just goes to show how criminal NASA is and how stupid NASA thinks the average person is. It is no wonder they kill those that squeal like Grissom and those that are forced to keep quiet like Aldrin live lives of depression and alcoholism. You can never successfully live out an entire lifetime based on a lie. I can only hope people will wake up to this satanic war on Jesus Christ and The Bible because that is the chief objective of the power structure at all junctures; to destroy God’s Truth.

      • #29 by Anonymous on October 1, 2015 - 12:45 pm

        Mr. Imbriano, it truly is a Satanic agenda and by the way, Copernicus was an devout atheist. Throughout the centuries this has been propagated by carefully crafted conditioning of the masses and justified by mathematical equations. There is a war in heaven as we speak, a war for men’s souls.

      • #30 by Anonymous on October 1, 2015 - 4:56 pm

        This is criminal. How many billions have they stolen from the taxpayer? Now the new Mars movie is coming out right after the fake photos show frozen rivers on Mars. This is a total fraud. It is such a joke. What else are they lying to us about?

  13. #31 by Anonymous on October 3, 2015 - 12:34 pm

    Oh brother, now I have heard it all.

  14. #32 by Gemni on October 14, 2015 - 10:47 pm

    This is great stuff and you ask some really serious questions of a moronic society with half their brains in a jar. Grissom was 86’d and so were others. Dead men tell no tales. The fake Challenger deaths are so out in the open its a sick joke.

  15. #33 by Joe Imbriano on October 14, 2015 - 11:42 pm

    So from a so called satellite we can allegedly zoom in and see a flea on a cow’s dung hole on Earth but we don’t have at least a single high powered telescope on this planet that can take a high resolution image of the faked Apollo moon landing site with the flag blowing in vacuum of the solar wind? Is the phony broken billion dollar boondoggle Hubble not capable of peering above the surface of the swimming pool it sits in?

  16. #34 by "we lied about everything" on December 27, 2015 - 9:16 pm

  17. #35 by Joe Imbriano on January 23, 2016 - 8:08 pm

    All of the crap in the public school textbooks is a total lie. You think the water stays on a ball spinning at 1000 miles per hour as it supposedly whirls and wobbles at over 5000 miles per hour through space? You think you came from rocks? You think the 75000 miles of circulatory system in your body got there by by accident? You think that tree in your backyard that turns dirt, water and sunlight into an orange is some sort of a coincidence? Satanic deception warring for your eternal soul is exactly what is taking place. The dome is real and is proof that God’s Word is the Truth. That is why they are lying about everything. Look up the timing of “operation high jump”, “operation fishbowl”, the high altitude nuclear testing where they were trying to blow holes in it, and the establishment of NASA where they militarized space and placed it all off limits and force feed us fake computer generated images.

    http://www.peterwallace.org/old/essays/flatearth.htm

    “1. The Solid Dome

    God created a firmament (raqia) in the midst of the waters, dividing the waters from the waters, so that there are waters above and below this raqia (Genesis 1:6). This raqia appears to be a solid object, because it is that which divides the waters above from the waters beneath. If the raqia were not there, then the waters above would come pouring down. The raqia is called “heaven” which explains why Genesis 7:11 refers to water pouring out of the windows of heaven. At the flood, God opened the windows of heaven, and the waters above came pouring down. Yet as we will see, those waters are still there, which means that the raqia still holds back those waters.

    In Genesis 1:14-18, God creates lights in the raqia of the heavens, suggesting that the sun, moon and stars are fixed in the raqia. On the other hand, in Genesis 1:20, God creates birds to fly “across the face” of the raqia of the heavens. Again, the picture is entirely consistent with the idea of a solid dome. The term “al-pene” is used consistently to refer to concrete entities. Since there is no concept of outer space or atmosphere in Scripture, it would be entirely foreign to the biblical world-view to conceive of the raqia as invisible “space.” The raqia is entirely visible (that blue thing up there), and is consistently portrayed as a solid object that covers the (flat) earth.

    This raqia is described in several other passages of Scripture :

    Exodus 24:10-“And they saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, and it was like the substance of heaven in its clarity.” (Literally, “as the bones of the heavens in purity.”) This suggests that Moses conceived of the raqia-named “heaven”-as a solid substance much like sapphire. And further, it is unlikely that such an analogy would develop if the people of God believed that the raqia was anything except a solid structure. (Incidentally, the LXX translated this “like the firmness of the heavens in purity”-stereoma means solid body or foundation, and can be used metaphorically to refer to something that is steadfast).

    Job 37:18-“With Him, have you spread out the skies, strong as a cast metal mirror?” This is plainly demonstrates that the biblical authors thought of the skies-the heavens-as a solid object. Since the historical accounts in Genesis and Exodus provide solid ground for seeing the firmament as a solid object, these poetical references only bolster this conclusion. After all, if they conceived of the firmament as empty space, they would be unlikely to use images such as this in their poetry.

    Psalm 104:2-“He lays the beams of His upper chambers in the waters” suggesting that the waters above the raqia are still far below God’s dwelling place.

    Psalm 148:4-“Praise Him you heaven of heavens, and you waters above the heavens!” This plainly states that the waters above the heavens are still there. The flood did not exhaust them. They still give praise to the Lord.

    Psalm 150:1-“Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in the firmament of his power.” A parallel here is made between the Holy place and the firmament. Each is a dome under which God rules and is worshiped. The earthly sanctuary is a picture of the whole earth-and indeed of the heavenly sanctuary.

    Isaiah 40:22-“It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” Here the heavens are compared to a tent or a curtain-solid objects which cover a flat surface; the term circle is never used to describe a ball or globe. Indeed it is also used in

    Proverbs 8:27: “When he prepared the heavens, I was there, when He drew a circle on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above…when He marked out the foundations of the earth.”

    Isaiah 44:24-“who stretches out the heavens all alone.”

    Isaiah 45:12-“I-My hands-stretched out the heavens.”

    Jeremiah 10:12-“And has stretched out the heavens at his discretion. When he utters His voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens.” Remember that the raqia is named “heaven.” Therefore when Isaiah and Jeremiah say that God has stretched out the heavens, they are referring to the raqia-and Jeremiah even suggests that there are waters in that raqia.

    Ezekiel 1:22, 26-“The likeness of the firmament above the heads of the living creatures was like the color of an awesome crystal, stretched out over their heads…And above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone.” Here, referring back to the Exodus passage, the firmament is portrayed as a canopy above the living creatures above which is set the sapphire throne. God’s throne is at the summit of the raqia. God sits enthroned in the heavens (Ps. 2:4, 8:1, 57:5, 103:19, Is 40:22, Ps 150:1., etc.), as he sits on the dome of the heavens, ruling over all he has made. So when Psalm 8 says that God’s glory is set above the heavens, it is not referring to some distant place, light-years away, but to the pinnacle of the raqia (that blue thing up there that keeps all that water from destroying us), where God’s throne is.

    Zechariah 12:1-“Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him.”

    Revelation 4:1-John sees a door open in the heavens, and he goes up and sees a throne. Naturally this means that he is seeing God’s throne which sits at the pinnacle of the raqia. Sure enough, he is able to look down and see the sea of glass (4:6; cf. 15:2)–which you would expect to see if there was a solid raqia above the earth. Yet he can see through the sea of glass to see all that is happening on the earth.

    From these passages it is clear that the biblical authors thought of the blue dome over the earth as a solid object. This was plainly the belief and teaching of the church from Moses through the middle ages-long after the realization that the earth was not flat.

    2. The Flat Earth

    The flatness of the earth is portrayed in several places. It is nowhere stated in a blunt fashion as is the solidness of the raqia, but it is clearly the assumption behind the descriptions in the following passages:

    Genesis 1:6-10-After God created the raqia to separate the waters above from the waters below, he separates the dry ground from the waters below. There is no indication that this is a globe hanging in outer space. Instead, since the waters under the firmament are gathered together into one place, the picture is that under this dome there are two (and only two) environments: water and dry land. Earth, after all, is not the name of the planet. It is only the name of the dry ground.

    Job 37:3-“He sends it forth under the whole heaven, His lightning to the ends [wing, extremity, corner] of the earth.”

    Psalm 104:5-You who laid the foundations of the earth, so that it should not be moved forever, You covered it with the deep as with a garment; The waters stood above the mountains. At Your rebuke they fled; at the voice of Your thunder they hastened away.”

    Isaiah 11:12-“And gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (compare Ezekiel 7:2-the four corners of the land)

    Revelation 7:1-“After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth.”

    Job 9:6-“He shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble; He commands the sun, and it does not rise; He seals off the stars; He alone spreads out the heavens.”

    Psalm 19:1,4-6-“The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows His handiwork. Their line has gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun, which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices like a strong man to run its race. Its rising is from one end of heaven, and its circuit to the other end; and there is nothing hidden from its heat.” (This language plainly indicates that the sun begins his day in one place and ends his day in another place.)

    Joshua 10:13-14-“So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.”

    These passages are entirely consistent with the picture of a flat earth, and a literal reading of them would result in the belief that the earth is flat. Indeed, this was the belief of all people who read them until the study of general revelation indicated that the earth was round.

    Another implication from these passages is the idea of geocentricity. The passages cited above plainly indicate that the earth does not move. This, after all, was the primary theological objection to Copernicus and Galileo-since they insisted that the sun was at the center of the solar system. The Roman Church was exegetically correct. Scripture does indeed present us with a geocentric picture of creation. The question is whether general revelation can cause us to question our exegesis.

    The biblical authors present the earth as flat. Not one whit of special revelation indicates anything else. The language of foundations, pillars, corners, tents, and firmaments all indicate a flat earth with a solid dome over it. The history of biblical interpretation bears this out. The rabbis debated the thickness of the raqia, and Robert Grosseteste, as late as the 13th century claimed that it was the plain teaching of the scripture and the church that there was a solid dome above the earth (see Robert Letham’s article “‘In the Space of Six Days’: The Days of Creation from Origen to the Westminster Assembly” Westminster Theological Journal 61 (1999) 149-174). No one questioned the flatness of the earth until people studied general revelation. Few questioned the solid dome above the earth until Copernicus and Gallileo challenged the Ptolemaic system. In the former case, the scholars were pagans; in the latter case they were Christians. The study of general revelation caused biblical scholars to question whether they had properly understood special revelation. There were no exegetical grounds for believing in a round earth. Indeed, exegesis would seem to indicate that the earth is flat. Likewise, exegesis plainly indicates that there is a solid blue dome over the earth-but upon scientific investigation, we have discovered that this blue dome is caused by refraction of the sun’s light! The study of general revelation may indeed cause us to question whether our traditional exegesis is in fact what the Word of God demand that we believe. Anyone who denies this must believe that the earth is flat, does not move, and has a solid dome above it.

    On the other hand, if we admit that the Bible uses figurative language, and recognize that the biblical authors were speaking in the terms of simple observation, there is no dilemma. I look up at the sky. It’s blue. What else is blue? Water. Oh, of course, there must be water up there! Therefore there must be a clear or blue, solid barrier which keeps the waters from drowning me. I walk around on the earth. I don’t fall off. In my everyday life I assume that the earth is flat. The sun rises and the sun sets. I’m not spinning around. I don’t get dizzy!

    Why do we expect the biblical authors to have access to modern scientific information? Do we really think that science is that important? Do we really think that science matters so much that God HAD to reveal it to Moses, David, and the prophets? What they say is true–from a simple observational perspective. I refuse to elevate science into a canon of biblical interpretation. It may cause us to reconsider our traditional exegesis, but we should not let it force us to distort what the Scripture says.

    Scripture calls us to see the earth as the center of the physical universe. Scripture calls us to see the earth as a flat surface with a solid dome over it. It turns out that these statements are figurative, but they are no less true because of it. The earth is the center of the physical universe not in a physical sense, but in a spiritual sense. As a picture of heaven, it points to the centrality of heaven in the totality of reality. Likewise, we are to understand that there is a solid dome over the earth that protects us from the waters of chaos and destruction. Every time we see a rainbow we are to remember this. The rainbow-like the firmament-is a symbol of God’s power in protecting his people. If it turns out that the blue dome above us is not literally solid, that does not shake our confidence that God put it there to remind us that he is the one who pours out wrath and blessing. Every time we see it we are to remember his mercy and power.”

    • #36 by Anonymous on January 26, 2016 - 12:44 pm

      All these supposed astronauts were 33rd degree masons and are now just a buch of fucking drunks now who cant live with themselvfs. Nasa just killed the honest ones who were gonna squeal. Thats a fact.

  18. #37 by Anonymous on January 25, 2016 - 12:05 pm

    If the Earth is flat, can you show us where the edge is?

    • #38 by Joe Imbriano on January 25, 2016 - 11:05 pm

      • #39 by Anonymous on January 26, 2016 - 11:35 am

        Any pictures of this ice ring?

        • #40 by Joe Imbriano on January 26, 2016 - 8:02 pm

          This is as close as you will get with NASA in control of all the fake images from space. A basic diagram of the layout of what we actually live on shows just how remote the ice ring is.

          The dome proves the existence of God-that is why they are hiding all of the evidence and teaching all these poor children the biggest lie ever told. This is purely satanic to the core. Turn on the TV and immerse yourself in satanism. It is now paraded out in the open.

          http://www.abodia.com/fe/images/circumnavigate-the-globe.png

          • #41 by Anonymous on January 27, 2016 - 8:50 am

            Surely, with millions of people taking billions of pictures all over the world, there’s bound to be SOMEONE who has actual evidence of this ice ring and the edge of the world. I’m surprised all you could find is a sketch.

            Maybe you and your intrepid scientist brethren aren’t trying hard enough.

            • #42 by Joe Imbriano on January 27, 2016 - 9:58 am

              Keep believing the lies of NASA and their fake computer generated fantasy images. The fact remains that Antartica is off limits except for small slithers. You can’t even get to 99 percent of it unless you have a submarine or military aircraft with incredible range-look where the edge is- Tell me why Google earth and all of these supposed satellite images become artist renderings when you pan out to a certain altitude? Why not show is the real images? Why are there no flights over the South Pole? -because there is no south pole. The edges of the earth are an ice ring covered by a dome. Read up on operation high jump and operation fish bowl.

              • #43 by Anonymous on January 27, 2016 - 11:31 am

                I guess all those people who have been to Antarctica are complete liars and idiots, unlike you, a brave and intrepid scientist operating out of the courageous confines of your suburban home.

                • #44 by Angie on January 28, 2016 - 6:37 am

                  Please do your own research.

                  • #45 by Anonymous on January 28, 2016 - 12:43 pm

                    Who’s to say I haven’t?

                    Of course, I’m not the one presenting an extraordinary claim without any actual evidence here, so the burden lies with the honorable citizen-scientist Joe here.

                    • #46 by Angie on January 28, 2016 - 9:06 pm

                      That’s what I’m saying, go to other sources that are making the same claim.
                      Joe has no burden to prove and if you were truly interested you would go do your own research. If you are still at odds with what Joe is presenting, then argue those points.

                      Also, at some point the we were taught the Earth is round “an extraordinary claim.”

                    • #47 by Joe Imbriano on January 28, 2016 - 9:22 pm

                      This bears repeating- All of the crap in the public school textbooks is a total lie. You think the water stays on a ball spinning at 1000 miles per hour as it supposedly whirls and wobbles at over 5000 miles per hour through space while thousands of miles of railroad track in South America have zero curvature engineered into them? You think you came from rocks? You think the 75000 miles of circulatory system in your body got there by by accident? You think that tree in your backyard that turns dirt, water and sunlight into an orange is some sort of a coincidence? Satanic deception warring for your eternal soul is exactly what is taking place.

                      The Earth is flat, the dome is real and is all proof that God’s Word is the Truth. That is why they are lying about everything. Look up the timing of “operation high jump”, “operation fishbowl”, the high altitude nuclear testing where they were trying to blow holes in it, and the establishment of NASA where they militarized space and placed it all off limits and force feed us fake computer generated images. There is a dome above this flat earth just like the Bible says. Space travel is an impossible fantasy. NASA is a total fraud just like the moon landings. It is the religion of science and its blind followers that is making illogical and preposterous claims, not I.

                    • #48 by Anonymous on January 28, 2016 - 11:18 pm

                      Thanks for the laugh.

                • #49 by Angie on January 28, 2016 - 8:38 am

                  “ . . . people need to develop and rely on their innate ability to reason, to apply their inherent (but often repressed) curiosity to examining the world around them, and to take responsibility for struggling through as many readings as it takes to understand the facts in front of them.”

                  The Rise of Science and the Death of Philosophy

                  By Penny Teal, PhD

                  There is a joke, apparently told to most incoming graduate students at most universities, that, “When you get here, you’re given a lobotomy; and 4 years later, when you’re finished with your degree, they cut out your heart – and then you’re ready to be a professor.” This is told by older grad students, of course, not by the professors. It is, unfortunately, true.

                  The lobotomy was accomplished, in reality, throughout the years of one’s schooling, during which all young people are taught to compartmentalize their thinking. The process is described succinctly by John Taylor Gatto, lyrically by Jonathan Kozol. It is easily understood by anyone who reads these writers and who has maintained even a shred of self-understanding, after the brutal attempts of modern education to remove self- and all other forms – of understanding from the mind of the unsuspecting student. More than a lobotomy, this process called “education” entails the segregation of all knowledge into virtually hermetically separated areas of thinking, such that one can discuss geography as if it had nothing to do with politics, and science as if it were utterly distinct from ethics.

                  The “removal of the heart” is an all too apt metaphor for the removal of most shreds of common decency, such as any concern for the lives of one’s students, and the acceptance of a dog-eat-dog, survival of the pushiest, mentality. Because as a university professor in the sciences, one will compete for grant money, and one must publish several papers per year. The student is constantly reminded of this harsh reality; I was told in my second year as a grad student at UC-Berkeley that I was “too timid” for the field of chemistry, and that I should consider quitting with a master’s degree and finding a more suitable career (which made me, of course, determined not to leave without a Ph.D.) Another student was given the more blunt version: “To be a good scientist, you have to be a mean son of a bitch.”

                  Sadly, most (but certainly not all) of my colleagues in grad school were willing to go along with this demand. One, an incredibly intelligent man with (in a better world) great potential as a musician or poet, actually stated with great relish that he couldn’t wait till he was a professor, so that he could be the tormentor rather than the tormented. Afterward, he was one of the most successful graduates of my class. Professionally, at least. It’s impossible to claim success with that kind of an attitude.

                  For my own part, I left academia the instant I had my doctorate in hand. I would love to have taught, but in the modern world even 4-year, liberal arts colleges require that their professors publish several articles per year. The one college at which I bothered to interview made it clear that an incoming prof would be expected to work at least 80 hours per week, and most of that in the lab. Obviously, that leaves very little time for keeping informed about the condition of one’s world, even with regard to the real-world impacts of one’s own research. Obviously, that is not merely by hazard.

                  The main reason I left, though – or rather, that I didn’t consider going back (because at graduation time I was pregnant with my first child, and determined to be at home with her during her childhood) – was due to the pervasiveness of military involvement in my chosen field. I should have known before getting to grad school that such would be the case, but I was unbelievably naive. I thought that, since I was interested in theoretical chemistry, I would be working on abstruse problems with no possible applications for the defense industry.

                  Excuse me while I pound my head on the desk…

                  The reality is that even research funded by the National Science Foundation is directly linked to defense work, and that all research projects will be scrutinized for their applicability. Bernard Eastlund may have been whitewashing when he said he hoped his HAARP prototype would be used for beneficial and strictly peaceful ends; but regardless of his intentions, HAARP would never have been allowed to function otherwise, had it had any utility for those who tirelessly strive to dominate the masses.

                  Funding is only half of the problem with university-level science. There is also the ironic fact that an education in science actually stunts one’s ability to think clearly.

                  Teaching was not only devalued at Berkeley, it was despised. One veteran professor was overheard telling an incoming prof, “Don’t worry about teaching; they don’t care at all about that here.” The nicest professor I met, by far, at Berkeley (who was, not coincidentally, one of the most popular teachers) was denied tenure.

                  At all so-called elite universities, undergraduates are taught mostly by grad students, who are expected to spend as little time as possible on teaching. Which means, in perfect harmony with modern education objectives, that students are left to memorize and regurgitate material. Helping them understand it would take time away from research, you see. Grad students are there to promote their advisor’s career first, to gain credentials second, and to take and teach courses as a distant afterthought.

                  I wrote the above, not because I am wallowing in resentment about the way we were treated in grad school (that would be giving the tormentors power over me even after the fact, as well as being a monumental waste of time). Rather, I hope that it will convey to readers who had the good fortune not to choose a career in science some idea of the digestion process via which the “scientific experts” of the world are excreted. Humaneness is not compatible with success.

                  Does that sound like a good way to produce scientists who have the well-being of the community, or of anyone at all, in mind?

                  Of course, one can be a consummately dislikable person, or a total misanthrope, and still be honest, ethical, and decent. But fear not, the academic system has ways of effacing those qualities as well. First and foremost is the fierce competition for funding, which is not by any means guaranteed just because one has been hired by a university. Second is, indirectly, the sources of funding. When a microbiologist knows that the paycheck is coming from a pharmaceutical company, the incentive to find a new drug safe and effective is immense. Data might be reported honestly, but the interpretation thereof, and conclusions drawn, will favor the source of funding. Even Wikipedia admits to the prevalence of confirmation bias in academia.

                  Lack of understanding may seem like a minor flaw in science, as long as one can solve the exam questions and obtain good results in the lab. But the inability to reason beyond the mechanical level is a major contributing factor to the way in which, for example, an engineer can fail to grasp the environmental impact of the products of his or her research. The combination of years of indoctrination and compartmentalisation in school, with the pressure to ingest facts devoid of comprehension at the university level, results in a debasing of science from the joyous pursuit of understanding of the universe to a factory-like cranking out of “products”. Worse, it results in researchers who have not the slightest inkling of, or (often) concern for, the abuses of their work by the paymasters.

                  Here is one incident for which I still harbor some rancor. In my third year at Berkeley, my advisor was offered a great deal on a laser (typical cost: several tens of thousands of dollars; typical energy waste per second: don’t even ask). The deal entailed his helping the laser manufacturer to produce a lengthy commercial for their product. My adviser happily accepted that condition… and decided for me that I would take part in this project. I objected, and even refused, but was effectively bullied into going along. The worst of which was that only a couple of my fellow grad students thought that I was justified in feeling exploited and deprived of my rights. Which goes to show that most people can rationalize almost anything when they want to be given a job.

                  If the easily corrupted scientists are the branches (and the university the trunk), the sources of funding are, of course, the root of the problem in academic science. The Department of Defense, the pharmaceutical-medical monolith, Monsanto, Google, et alia: it goes without saying that these entities do not exist to make our world more livable or pleasant or good.

                  So why are they the ones deciding which research projects will get funded? Sadly, a huge part of the problem is that the general public has been convinced that science is “hard” and is best left to the “experts”. Scientific illiteracy is a modern day crisis, the most tragic aspect of which is that it is absolutely unnecessary, not to mention indefensible.

                  When I say that scientific literacy is necessary, I most definitely do not mean that every one of us needs to go to university and get a degree in some science-related field. Quite the contrary, as that would mean getting trained not to think, and that in just one minute area of the whole realm of knowledge called science. All I mean is that people need to develop and rely on their innate ability to reason, to apply their inherent (but often repressed) curiosity to examining the world around them, and to take responsibility for struggling through as many readings as it takes to understand the facts in front of them.

                  I assume that everyone who is reading this website has mastered all of the aforementioned skills; thus, our task is to convince others that they can and must do the same.

                  Many people, though, even within the geo-engineering community, are afraid to present themselves as experts. If I have accomplished nothing else in writing this article, I hope that at least I have convinced you that the supposed experts are not really the best-qualified to speak on any given issue. What is a qualified scientist? A qualified scientist is one who looks up, and wonders, and eventually understands. Someone who has far more authority to speak out than a mere credentialed scientist.

                  Do you think you hate math? Then you have been brainwashed. The human mind is designed to think mathematically. Was science a drag for you? Only by design (the design of an educational system which wants more than anything to control you). Watch any child (in a natural environment) playing with dirt and plants, and you will see that they are experimenting.

                  We are so very much more than we have been told! More intelligent, more creative, more capable… And it is vital that we accept the fact that we are experts, that we don’t need to play second fiddle to those who have a (mostly meaningless) degree. We need to assert ourselves. For the sake of all those life-forms that can’t articulate their understanding in ways that most humans can grasp.

      • #50 by Anonymous on January 26, 2016 - 3:23 pm

        That is amazing with the UN logo and the Antarctic Treaty room. I never quite understood why we did so much atmospheric testing at such high altitudes. Now I know. It is obvious that they were unsuccessful in their efforts to breach the dome. What you say makes alot of sense Joe. I don’t know what to believe anymore. Most of the core scientific principles are ripe for challenge at this point. Too much just doesn’t add up. I have been reading the book called Zetetic astronomy and it is truly fascinating. I really appreciate your courage and your efforts in bringing this and so many other compelling issues to light, in spite of your critics.

  19. #51 by Anonymous on January 28, 2016 - 10:29 pm

    People have been effectively turned into sheeple and any truth provided will destroy their sweet illusions, which are actually their chains, and they are not prepared to have their ‘reality’ pulled from under their feet, unfortunately.

  20. #52 by How Do Satellites Survive 4,000F + Degree Heat in Space? on January 30, 2016 - 10:30 am

    #30 How Do Satellites Survive 4,000F + Degree Heat in Space?

    gravity, NASA, Photos April 15, 2015 Comments: 6

    Since the launch of Sputnik in the 1950s, thousands of satellites have been put into orbit around the Earth and even other planets. Each has served a different purpose, from complex space stations like the International Space Station to the Global Positioning System. Most satellites can be considered to be “in space”, but in terms of the Earth’s atmosphere, they reside in either the thermosphere or the exosphere. The layer through which a satellite orbits depends on what the satellite is used for and what kind of orbit it has.

    More:
    http://aplanetruth.info/2015/04/15/30-how-do-satellites-survive-4000f-degree-heat-in-space/

    • #53 by Anonymous on January 31, 2016 - 5:01 pm

      Apparently an inability to grasp basic concepts means everything is fake.

      • #54 by Joe Imbriano on January 31, 2016 - 6:18 pm

        DO TELL

      • #55 by The Truman show on January 31, 2016 - 10:11 pm

        The general public, as you are are clearly a card carrying member of, has a massive inability to grasp basic concepts like how water seeks its own level and cannot remain attached to a spinning ball. Your version of reality is steeped in the trite and mindless.

        NASA is full of shit. They are liars, murderers and thieves who rape the taxpayers. How many astronauts did they murder?

        • #56 by Joe Imbriano on January 31, 2016 - 11:00 pm

          At least three from Apollo 1-Fullerton named parks after each one of them.Then there is the interview where the 33rd degree mason Aldrin and his pals couldn’t remember if they saw any stars when they were supposedly on the moon? Are you kidding me?

  21. #57 by Anonymous on January 31, 2016 - 10:57 pm

    How does water seek anything? Is it sentient?

  22. #58 by J. Lee on February 2, 2016 - 8:50 pm

    For more on NASA Hoax and Flat Earth Truths please visit the first ever Flat Earth Website
    Aplanetruth.info
    as well as You Tube by same name.

  23. #59 by Anon on February 5, 2016 - 11:40 am

    Another Massive LIE. “The Vacuum of Space” Debunked

    http://aplanetruth.info/2016/02/05/another-massive-lie-the-vacuum-of-space-debunked/

  24. #60 by NASA is a Government Military Operation on February 11, 2016 - 9:49 am

  25. #61 by Joe Imbriano on March 5, 2016 - 8:08 am

    • #62 by Anonymous on March 7, 2016 - 9:01 pm

      Does anyone know about how they murdered Gus Grissom? Ask his son, he will tell you all about it.

      • #63 by Joe Imbriano on March 7, 2016 - 10:15 pm

        You are correct-

        Posted 01 December 2006 – 10:50 PM
        Apollo Astronaut Was Murdered, Son Charges

        Christopher Ruddy
        February 11, 1999 (old news but still very interesting wink2.gif )

        Virgil I. “Gus” Grissom, the astronaut slated to be the first man to walk on the moon, was murdered, his son has charged in the Feb. 16 edition of Star magazine.
        In another stunning development, a lead NASA investigator has charged that the agency engaged in a cover-up of the true cause of the catastrophe that killed Grissom and two other astronauts.

        The tabloid exclusive by Steve Herz reports that Scott Grissom, 48, has gone public with the family’s long-held belief that their father was purposefully killed during Apollo I.

        The Jan. 27, 1967, Apollo I mission was a simulated launch in preparation for an actual lunar flight.

        NASA concluded that the Apollo I deaths of Grissom, as well as astronauts Edward H. White and Roger Chafee, were the result of an explosive fire that burst from the pure oxygen atmosphere of the space capsule. NASA investigators could not identify what caused the spark, but wrote the catastrophe off as an accident.

        “My father’s death was no accident. He was murdered,” Grissom, a commercial pilot, told Star.

        Grissom said he recently was granted access to the charred capsule and discovered a “fabricated” metal plate located behind a control panel switch. The switch controlled the capsules’ electrical power source from an outside source to the ship’s batteries. Grissom argues that the placement of the metal plate was an act of sabotage. When one of the astronauts toggled the switch to transfer power to the ship’s batteries, a spark was created that ignited a fireball.

        Clark Mac Donald, a McDonnell-Douglas engineer hired by NASA to investigate the fire, offered corroborating evidence. Breaking more than three decades of silence, Mac Donald says he determined that an electrical short caused by the changeover to battery power had sparked the fire.

        He says that NASA destroyed his report and interview tapes in an effort to stem public criticism of the space program.

        “I have agonized for 31 years about revealing the truth, but I didn’t want to hurt NASA’s image or cause trouble,” Mac Donald told the paper. “But I can’t let one more day go by without the truth being known.”

        Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

        “I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

        Scott Grissom told Star that the motive for his father’s killing may have been related to NASA’s desire not have his father be the first man to walk on the moon because of criticism leveled at Grissom in 1961 after his Mercury capsule, Liberty 7, sunk in the Atlantic.

        Critics of Grissom, including novelist Tom Wolfe, have claimed the astronaut panicked when his space capsule landed in the ocean, and he prematurely pulled an explosive charge to open the ship’s hatch, causing it to sink.

        Fellow astronauts, however, gave Grissom the benefit of the doubt for several reasons. Grissom was a decorated Korean War pilot who had flown nearly 100 combat missions. He was a courageous man not known to panic.

        There was also evidence that the explosive device on the hatch could accidentally blow without being pulled — a fact that led NASA to remove such devices from future spacecraft.

        Also, had Grissom pulled the explosive release on the hatch, his hand or arm should have had powder and bruise marks. Neither were found.

        Grissom, one of the original Mercury seven, was the senior astronaut when the Apollo missions began.

        Among the astronauts, Grissom was the most critical of the problem-plagued Apollo program, and the main Apollo contractor, North American Aviation.

        Shortly before his death, Grissom had taken a large lemon and hung it around the space capsule as the press looked on. He had suggested publicly that the project could never be accomplished on time.

        The Associated Press reported, “‘Pretty slim’ was the way [Grissom] put his Apollo’s chances of meeting its mission requirements.”

        The Grissom family had reason to doubt the official NASA ruling from the beginning. Even before Apollo I, Grissom had received death threats which his family believed emanated from within the space program.

        The threats were serious enough that he was put under Secret Service protection and had been moved from his home to a secure safehouse.

        According to his wife, Grissom had warned her that “if there is ever a serious accident in the space program, it’s likely to be me.”

        The Apollo I disaster led to a series of congressional hearings into the incident and NASA. During the hearings, one launch pad inspector, Thomas Baron, sharply criticized NASA’s handling of the incident and testified that the astronauts attempted to escape the capsule earlier than officially claimed.

        Baron was fired soon after giving the testimony, and died, along with his wife, when his car was struck by a train. Authorities ruled the deaths as suicide.

        During the congressional hearings, Sen. Walter Mondale questioned the efficacy of manned space programs. Manned space flights were opposed by many of the leading space scientists at the time, including Drs. James Van Allen and Thomas Gold.

        http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/2/11/00539

  26. #64 by Anonymous on May 31, 2016 - 10:00 pm

    Too lazy to write new insane screeds, so you’re reposting old ones?

    Way to ramp up your campaign! This will surely get people on your side!

  27. #66 by Anonymous on May 31, 2016 - 10:43 pm

    Simply mind blowing information. I could only imagine what in the world is like inside of your head Joe. You are amazing. You expanded my thinking with this article like nothing I have ever read before as a Christian and you are so right. I agree with you. NASA with the hidden T in the logo spells satan. People are so easily fooled. That is why the devil is so powerful. People just roll over into his hands. Amazing work! Sharing-

    • #67 by Anonymous on June 1, 2016 - 7:54 am

      It also spell Santa. NASA is actually a front for an international conspiracy to give children presents!

  28. #68 by Anonymous on June 1, 2016 - 6:40 am

    Admiring the hard work you put into your blog and in depth
    information you present. It’s great to come across a blog every once in a while that isn’t the same out of date rehashed material.

  29. #69 by Reality Is..... on June 1, 2016 - 7:17 am

    More old news. As long as you keep reporting old news, it really confirms the great job the City of Fullerton is doing. Keep it up.

  30. #70 by 33 degrees of separation on June 4, 2016 - 12:15 pm

    Ancient mystery religions long ago established a high priesthood order in all levels of government, media, research, education, science and of course organized religion over 1000 years ago. Their power is derived from Masonic and Luciferian blood sacrifice rituals, Sigils which Mr. Imbriano frequently alludes to in his expose of Apple computer company, black magic, and necromancy just to name a few. Ironically, the students of today and the leaders of tomorrow are being schooled in these dark arts by the very books they are reading in school and at home and the video games the masters have crafted for their addictive consumption.

    Mr. Imbriano has made one of the most compelling statements of modern times in terms of Zetetic Astronomy with his reference to this “tear in the dome”. He is indeed correct in his understanding of the nature of our physical existence under a dome that was once rent to cleanse a wicked and vile world from a fallen race that would have interfered with the ublemished bloodline of humanity’s savior.

    All that would be necessary to bury his arguments alive is for the Hubble telescope to do a 180 degree turn and broadcast live pictures of this so called “globe” undergoing its so called “rotation”.

    It cannot, nor will it ever be done for the same reasons that the faked pictures from the moon showed no stars. The sheer multitude of variables involved in plotting their positions relative to the falsity of a rotating planet instead of the fixed plane are a complete impossibility.

    The Bible has been mistranslated and is being taught by seminary graduates from compromised institutions which produce the willing pawns of the intelligence agencies that have controlled eschatological interpretations to fit snugly into and guide US foreign policy.

    There is ample evidence of their working with and alongside the CFR. These apostates have beckoned for from their pulpits, a foreign policy which has become a pure bloodbath for most of the know world. 9 11 was the birth of the New American Century that has left most of the middle east in ruin and destitution while practically wiping Christianity of the face of the earth in countries like Iraq.

    Your community of Fullerton continues to elect a 12 term Jesuit Congressman named Ed Royce who has for decades played you all extremely well and marched all of your children right off to a ritual killing field as they come home in pieces in a box wrapped in a flag in order for your SUV to fill up for under a hundred Federal Reserve Notes.

    Unbiblical Protestant Zionism is perhaps the best example fueling the continued modern day inquisitions led by the Jesuit armies of Rome. The defilement of The Holy Scriptures by modern day harlots running these mega church corporations, the Vatican, its Masonic arm NASA, and the entire scientific community is brilliantly Satanic at its core denying the very existence of The Creator. One need only look at the very first verse of the Bible to realize where they have drawn the line and how deep, dark and long that line has become.

    • #71 by Anonymous on June 4, 2016 - 3:37 pm

      SWTF is this supposed to mean?

      • #72 by ANON on June 4, 2016 - 8:18 pm

        I am afraid it is beyond your grasp.

        • #73 by Anonymous on June 4, 2016 - 9:03 pm

          Yes, nonsense put together in a string of paragraphs is indeed hard to grasp.

          • #74 by Troy student on June 5, 2016 - 10:03 am

            agreed — beyond your grasp

          • #75 by Anonymous on June 6, 2016 - 2:12 pm

            Nonsense? No, you’re just a brainwashed dummy who believes all the lies you’ve been taught as a child. 33 Degrees of Separation is so right on the money.

            • #76 by Anonymous on June 7, 2016 - 2:12 pm

              Yes, call people names. It makes you look so much smarter, even though you believe this idiocy!

              • #77 by Anon on June 8, 2016 - 3:28 pm

                Give it up, you are over your head.

                Relax, go back to watching TV. I bet you feel at home with the “programming.”

                • #78 by Anonymous on June 8, 2016 - 9:00 pm

                  Suuuuuuure.

    • #79 by Anonymous on June 4, 2016 - 4:06 pm

      I am afraid 33 Degrees of Separation you have totally lost me. What does the following mean…in English “Unbiblical Protestant Zionism is perhaps the best example fueling the continued modern day inquisitions led by the Jesuit armies of Rome.”

    • #80 by Anonymous on June 4, 2016 - 6:43 pm

      LOL.

  31. #81 by Danny Boys boys on June 4, 2016 - 11:09 pm

    Lets all go down to the slimebar boys club and blast our eardrums out with some obnoxious noise pollution, huff a bunch of body odor, cavity breath, pot smoke, big lots cologne, down some crappy flat beer, eat some greasy goo soaked in griddle fry, get into a fight in the parking lot over the hot chicks that never showed up, and then we can take two aspirin and call Dr strangelove in the morning. I am sure he would love to hear all about it.

    • #82 by Reality Is.. on June 4, 2016 - 11:33 pm

      Awesome. I’m doing that as we speak. I just took down the Mac n Cheese and fried pickles. Delicious. I’m about to go watch Fullerton PD manhandle some drunks. Does it get any better? People watching to some good tunes on a Saturday night? I think I just saw Ron Thomas pissing on the memorial too.

    • #83 by Veritas on June 5, 2016 - 6:09 pm

      You are here because . . . . ?

      • #84 by Reality Is.. on June 5, 2016 - 10:59 pm

        I like fried pickles?

        • #85 by Fullerton Lover on June 7, 2016 - 11:03 am

          The NASA questions got me thinking about my favorite scene from the movie Truman…

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zYn-HHcyA

          …what I like most about this scene is that change is not always probable, but it is ALWAYS possible.

  32. #86 by 33 degrees of separation on June 22, 2016 - 3:07 am

    Throughout millenia war has been waged against the existence of The Almighty. It is a war that can never be won, yet will be waged nonetheless. In the distant past, the weapons of choice ranged from the sword all the way down to the pagan priesthood. Today, the weapon of choice is intellectualism and a false religion of science itself relegating the creation to mere happenstance.

    Today’s soldiers in the war against God are the unionized educators, the despotic professors, the media gatekeepers, the goats in the pulpits and the editors of the academic publishing houses that flood the fertile grounds of higher learning with the lowest forms of abject lies. It is a well oiled machine whose weapons of choice in today’s war against the Truth are the mile high piles of print, the endless flickering screens and the promulgation of notions of self liberating freedom that ultimately lead to personal ruin. These work in harmony along side of NASA to cement the lies of a globe earth kept alive by an endless barrage of computer generated illusory images of what the masters would have us to falsely believe.

    Mr. Imbriano has once again placed his finger directly on the jugular of yet another massive agenda and deception with eternal consequences. The question is really not whether or not we believe the factual information that he has put forth, but rather how much pressure we are all willing to collectively apply to the jugular of, what most notably is, the biggest lie in human history: the non existence of God himself.

    Mr. Imbriano is not ahead of his time, he is merely indifferent to the machinations of its very influence. Truth in of itself is eternal, and those who wage war against it will never prevail.

    Mr. Imbriano in your work is found what the heart of man ultimately desires. May the truth continue to emanate from your efforts to be received willingly by all of us who are designed to freely consume it and be forever changed by it as I most certainly have been. I wish you and family Godspeed, continued success and most of all safety Mr. Imbriano.

    • #87 by Anonymous on June 22, 2016 - 11:47 am

      People have seen the earth from the moon. We have countless observations and predictions that would absolutely not work if the earth were flat. And yet here you clowns are, reaping the benefits of the technology we’ve developed on top of all this basic research, claiming that it’s all a lie. Time for you morons to practice what you preach, delete your accounts, get closer to your god and live the Luddite life you desire so much.

      • #88 by Anonymous on June 22, 2016 - 6:29 pm

        What happens if this is true?

        • #89 by Anonymous on June 23, 2016 - 8:09 am

          That’s the million dollar question! What predictions about the universe could we make if the earth were flat, and how would you test them?

  33. #90 by Peter Ross on June 22, 2016 - 8:05 am

    “Either the bible is a lie or NASA is a lie”

    Your bible is a lie.

    You’re welcome.

    • #91 by 33 degrees of separation on June 23, 2016 - 11:22 am

      The modern fables taken at face value are all based on the theoretical and not the observed. Most science is an abject fraud, specifically the fields of propulsion. Like Mr. Imbriano stated, Aerospace has been stagnant for decades. We live in a closed system. Aeronautics has peaked along with the realization that our ability to exit this closed system is no longer a foregone conclusion.

      In terms of your spiritual condition, the choice is and always has been yours. It obviously requires far more faith to believe the lies put forth from secular academia than to trust the innate fibers of our very being that transcend our own finite understandings.

      • #92 by Anonymous on June 23, 2016 - 1:45 pm

        What, specifically, in the field of propulsion is a fraud?

  34. #93 by Anonymous on June 24, 2016 - 5:47 am

    There is the firmament over the earth and above the firmament are the Heavens. There is no way that man can go there. The last time they almost did it at the tower of Babel, we know what happened God as confused their languages. It will never happen. We cannot escape this closed system.

    We live in a huge swimming pool on huge islands. NASA is a lie from the pit of Hell. Just look at their logo. This is a great article and kudos to the author-A True Berean.

    Hubble is really just a telescope on a 747 https://youtu.be/SIfp0lIpyxs

    • #94 by Anonymous on June 24, 2016 - 10:00 am

      Wow. And I thought you people couldn’t be any more dense.

      Any evidence to back up your claims? Because there’s a ton for the contrary.

      • #95 by Joe Imbriano on June 24, 2016 - 12:27 pm

        If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.
        If you put water onto a ball, it falls right off.

        • #96 by Sloppy Joe on June 24, 2016 - 1:07 pm

          That is, bar none, the dumbest explanation of gravity I’ve ever heard.

        • #97 by Anonymous on June 24, 2016 - 2:57 pm

          What in the hell did you smoke to come up with such a dumb analogy that explains absolutely nothing? Bath salts? A pound of weed? PCP?

          • #98 by Joe Imbriano on June 24, 2016 - 6:09 pm

            All of the items you mentioned and then some are required to believe the lies of NASA and its trillion dollar treason.

            • #99 by Anonymous on June 25, 2016 - 10:16 am

              Any evidence (other than you bible) for this outrageous assertion that NASA is lying and the earth is flat?

              • #100 by Anon on June 25, 2016 - 11:57 am

                Really? Are you deaf, dumb, & blind or is it simply good old fashioned denial because you couldn’t handle it if it were true?

                DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and examine the evidence for yourself. There are plenty of sources, some on this blog.

                Focus your attention on the evidence, not the messenger.

                • #101 by Anonymous on June 25, 2016 - 12:57 pm

                  “Do your own research,” cried the person with no actual evidence.

                  • #102 by Anonymous on June 25, 2016 - 6:40 pm

                    NASA IS A FRAUD. It is now become so patently obvious to those who can objectively analyze the lies. I remember all the tube testers in all the stores in the 1960’s and 1970’s and we supposedly went to the moon with that garbage technology? Yeah right. People have become so gullible that they actually believe the propaganda, the bogus theoretical physics, unproven science and of course all the false flag fake shootings like the so called Orlando massacre which was a total fake just like Sandy Hook. People will believe whatever they see on TV to this very day. I gotta hand it to these magicians. They are really really good.

                    • #103 by Anonymous on June 25, 2016 - 8:46 pm

                      Care to share any facts that back up your hilarious claims?

  35. #104 by Anonymous on June 27, 2016 - 6:43 am

    “Conclusion

    If the Earth is flat, as the vast amount of evidence seems to show, then the flat Earth conspiracy amounts to the biggest cover-up and lie ever perpetrated against humanity; a lie that has literally lasted for hundreds of years and must necessarily permeate many institutions. If true, the implications of how much brainwashing and control we’re under is absolutely frightening and you’ll begin to see it everywhere. But is there any other “fact” that we were programmed to believe more than the shape of the Earth? The globe model was pushed on us from the earliest age, why?

    For me (others may disagree), the strongest pieces of evidence in support of the flat Earth are the following:

    No Curvature. No measurable curvature even though the curvature should be EASILY detectable with modern instruments and experienced in everyday life.

    No Photographs of the Earth from Space. Despite the claim that there are thousands of satellites far away enough from the Earth to take a picture of the whole Earth, there are admittedly no legitimate photographs of the Earth; NASA even says that these photographs were created to “match people’s expectations.” Is that science or propaganda? Other evident fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and the Space Shuttle, further supports this argument.

    The Sun and Moon are Local. The Sun is not 93 million miles away (and the Moon is not 234,000 miles away) as proven from various time-lapse videos, decreasing/increasing sizes, light concentration, hot spots, trigonometry, and other means.

    The Professionals. Pilots, engineers, surveyors, gunners, artillerymen, radar operators, etc. do not account for curvature in any manner.

    The Non-Spinning Atmosphere. The atmosphere evinces no properties of spin as required by fluid dynamics. The purported 1,000 mph spin of the Earth at the equator should have a tremendous impact on flights, water, volcanic eruption plumes, skydivers, weather balloons, wind, etc., but there’s no evidence of such a spin. The Coriolis Effect’s impact on the directional rotation of storms at the hemisphere only supports the flat Earth and has no further application despite widespread lies about snipers and Foucault Pendulums.

    No Centrifugal or Other Forces of Movement Detected. Even though centrifugal forces may increase substantially from the arctic to the equator (from 100 mph to more than 1,000 mph), weight does not change (an estimated 0.3% change in weight should be measurable with modern equipment and affect manufactures and there is no change in weight whatsoever). Further, a point on the Earth is sometimes supposedly moving with the 66,600 mph orbit and sometimes against it; these possibly radical centrifugal force changes have no physical effect on an individual and are not measurable. Moreover, the Earth supposedly orbits the Sun at 66,600 mph as the Earth spins at 1,000 mph. On one side of the Earth, the ground would be moving 66,600 mph towards your feet; on the other side of the Earth, the ground below you would be moving away from your feet at 66,600 mph. This daily and drastic change should be felt or measured daily and gravity does not seem to account for it. Moreover, engineering manuals show that the outer rim of the Earth could not support a spin of 1,000 mph and would disintegrate.

    The Explanation of Daylight and Stars is Not Workable on the Globe Model. Based on the “official” globe model where daylight should be located between the Earth and the Sun, there should be a substantial global change of stars every six months as the nights should be pointed in opposite directions when the Earth is on opposite sides of the Sun. Because this doesn’t happen, the globe model must be false.

    Same-Sized Sun and Moon. Despite the purported extreme differences in distance and size, the Sun and Moon are almost the same size from our perspective – a statistical impossibility by chance alone. Also, the Sun and Moon both spin facially the same distance throughout the same time period (a fact ignored by science) – how’s that possible under the globe model?

    Properties of Water. The level properties of water and no bulging of the oceans at the equator despite the spin demonstrate that Earth is not a spinning a ball.

    The Impossible Moon. In the video of an amateur rocket launch, the Moon appears very small but well above the horizon when it should be on the other side of the Earth proving that the Moon and Sun circle above a flat surface.

    The Vacuum of Space. There’s no way that our atmosphere supposedly parallels an enormous vacuum. The vacuum of space would overpower any hold that gravity would have over the low-mass atmosphere. Our atmosphere should burst out into space as the top of the “space ship” is wide-open.
    The North Star. The “official” globe model says that the Earth is currently spinning at 1,042 mph, wobbling, bouncing daily, and revolving around the Sun at 66,600 mph; the Sun (taking the Earth with it) is moving at 447,000 mph; the whole galaxy is moving at 373 miles/second; and, the entire universe continues to expand from the Big Bang. Meaning that the Earth is moving in various direction at more than 1,860,000 mph. The problem? The North Star has NEVER changed its position in known history and that certainly belies common sense.

    The Non-Wobbling Sun in the Arctic. During the 24-hour days of daylight, videos show the Sun spin in a circle over the Arctic sky horizon. However, the Sun should not spin but follow a zig-zag pattern if the “official” model was correct. This proves the “official” model is false and the evidence fits perfectly on a flat Earth model.

    The Ridiculous Spinning-Vortex Model. “Official” science says that the entire solar system is chasing after the Sun that is moving at approximately 2 million mph. That means all planets, comets (even those moving in and out of the solar system), repeating meteor showers, moons, artificial satellites, etc. are all chasing after the Sun, which is at a incomprehensible distance away from objects such as Pluto and comets, but all planets somehow maintain the same horizontal plane despite the lessening effects of gravity at much further distances, and still all objects maintain tabular repeating performance year after year for thousands of years chasing after a Sun that should be leading the way. No one ever shows how this entire model works at scale because it’s asinine.
    Why the deception?

    This is only speculation but I think there may be a few reasons:

    To hide land and resources; to keep the human cattle within their imaginary fences (like The Truman Show).
    To hide God.
    To control our minds; a psychological matrix, i.e., to make us believe that 2+2=5. If our evil overlords can convince us to ignore our own experience and blindly trust the illogical “official” story, then we can be controlled to do and accept anything.
    Interestingly, the alleged spherical shape of the Earth was very important to Luciferians, Atheists, and possibly Freemasonry as it removed the idea of above (heaven) and below (hell). Here’s a quote from the publication Lucifer from December 23, 1887:

    “We date from the First of January, 1601. This era is called the Era of Man (E.M.) to distinguish it from the theological epoch that preceded it. In that epoch the Earth was supposed to be flat, the Sun was its attendant light, revolving about it. Above was Heaven, where God ruled supreme over all potentates and powers; below was the kingdom of the dead, hell. So taught the Bible. Then came the new Astronomy. It demonstrated that the Earth is a globe revolving about the sun, that there is no ‘up and down’ in space. Vanished the old Heaven, vanished the old Hell; the Earth became the home of man. And when the modern Cosmogony came, the Bible and the Church, as infallible oracles, had to go, for they had taught that regarding the universe which was shown to be untrue in every particular.”

    – Lucifer, Dec. 23rd, E.M. 287 (1887). See also: https://www.kshs.org/p/kansas-historical-quarterly-front-page-from-lucifer-the-light-bearer/13208

    Note that on the globe there is no “up and down,” meaning there is no heaven and no hell – there is only man. That also has significance for Satanism and Freemasonry – “As above so below.” “In Magick (Book 4), Crowley asserted that Baphomet was a divine androgyne and ‘the hieroglyph of arcane perfection’: Seen as that which reflects. ‘What occurs above so reflects below, or As above so below.’” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet.

    In addition to eliminating God, the spherical shape acts like a mental control to the development of the human mind. In the book 1984, George Orwell presciently wrote the following (pertinent excerpt below: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Authors/Part_Three_1984.html):

    O’Brien silenced him by a movement of the hand. “We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn-by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation-anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wished to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth century ideas about the laws of nature. We make the laws of nature.”. . . .

    “But the whole universe is outside us. Look at the stars! Some of them are a million light-years away. They are out of our reach forever.”

    “What are the stars?” said O’Brien indifferently. “They are bits of fire a few kilometers away. We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them out. The earth is the center of the universe. The sun and the stars go round it.”. . . . When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometers away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?”

    What follows is another fascinating quote from Orwell who said that the evidence in support of the globe theory is “precarious” and seemingly built on nothing more than an appeal to authority. Also, Orwell pointed out that the vast majority of people get “angry” when confronted with alternative theories because of society’s credulity and sad acceptance of authority.

    http://alexpeak.com/twr/hdykteir/

    SOMEWHERE or other—I think it is in the preface to Saint Joan—Bernard Shaw remarks that we are more gullible and superstitious today than we were in the Middle Ages, and as an example of modern credulity he cites the widespread belief that the earth is round. The average man, says Shaw, can advance not a single reason for thinking that the earth is round. He merely swallows this theory because there is something about it that appeals to the twentieth-century mentality.

    Now, Shaw is exaggerating, but there is something in what he says, and the question is worth following up, for the sake of the light it throws on modern knowledge. Just why do we believe that the earth is round? I am not speaking of the few thousand astronomers, geographers and so forth who could give ocular proof, or have a theoretical knowledge of the proof, but of the ordinary newspaper-reading citizen, such as you or me.

    As for the Flat Earth theory, I believe I could refute it. If you stand by the seashore on a clear day, you can see the masts and funnels of invisible ships passing along the horizons. This phenomenon can only be explained by assuming that the earth’s surface is curved. But it does not follow that the earth is spherical. Imagine another theory called the Oval Earth theory, which claims that the earth is shaped like an egg. What can I say against it?

    Against the Oval Earth man, the first card I can play is the analogy of the sun and moon. The Oval Earth man promptly answers that I don’t know, by my own observation, that those bodies are spherical. I only know that they are round, and they may perfectly well be flat discs. I have no answer to that one. Besides, he goes on, what reason have I for thinking that the earth must be the same shape as the sun and moon? I can’t answer that one either.

    My second card is the earth’s shadow: when cast on the moon during eclipses, it appears to be the shadow of a round object. But how do I know, demands the Oval Earth man, that eclipses of the moon are caused by the shadow of the earth? The answer is that I don’t know, but have taken this piece of information blindly from newspaper articles and science booklets.

    Defeated in the minor exchanges, I now play my queen of trumps: the opinion of the experts. The Astronomer Royal, who ought to know, tells me that the earth is round. The Oval Earth man covers the queen with his king. Have I tested the Astronomer Royal’s statement, and would I even know a way of testing it? Here I bring out my ace. Yes, I do know one test. The astronomers can foretell eclipses, and this suggests that their opinions about the solar system are pretty sound. I am therefore justified in accepting their say-so about the shape of the earth.

    If the Oval Earth man answers—what I believe is true—that the ancient Egyptians, who thought the sun goes round the earth, could also predict eclipses, then bang goes my ace. I have only one card left: navigation. People can sail ships round the world, and reach the places they aim at, by calculations which assume that the earth is spherical. I believe that finishes the Oval Earth man, though even then he may possibly have some kind of counter.

    It will be seen that my reasons for thinking that the earth is round are rather precarious ones. Yet this is an exceptionally elementary piece of information. On most other questions I should have to fall back on the expert much earlier, and would be less able to test his pronouncements. And much the greater part of our knowledge is at this level. It does not rest on reasoning or on experiment, but on authority. And how can it be otherwise, when the range of knowledge is so vast that the expert himself is an ignoramous as soon as he strays away from his own speciality? Most people, if asked to prove that the earth is round, would not even bother to produce the rather weak arguments I have outlined above. They would start off by saying that ‘everyone knows’ the earth to be round, and if pressed further, would become angry. In a way Shaw is right. This is a credulous age, and the burden of knowledge which we now have to carry is partly responsible.”

    jwlpeace | June 26, 2016 at 4:32 am | Categories: Uncategorized | URL: http://wp.me/p5NdDV-RB

    https://aplanetruth.info/2016/06/26/fe-overview-50-points/

    • #105 by Joe Imbriano on June 28, 2016 - 6:23 am

      If the earth was not flat, this would never function. Break your conditioning folks. This would have never been patented if it was not how it is.

      http://www.google.com/patents/US3858334

      Universal planisphere complete guidance and computer system
      US 3858334 A
      ABSTRACT
      A planisphere for providing displays and effecting calculations in both astronomy and navigation and the method of operation thereof. The planisphere structure includes plurality of substantially circular, concentric, flat dials which are progressively larger in diameter toward a central, largest diameter dial on both sides of the central, largest diameter dial. The dials are pivotally mounted centrally and have both astronomy and navigation oriented scales as well as star and polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps thereon. Reference rules and transit scale indicators, Greenwich indicators and Aries indicators, the latter three of which are part of specific planisphere dials, extend radially outwardly of the largest diameter dial on both sides of the planisphere and are connected together radially outwardly of each other respectively so that they may be readily moved relative to each other in angularly positioning the dials in operation of the planisphere. An altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator is provided with the planisphere to aid in triangulation operations and determining relative altitude and azimuth of celestial bodies when it is located on the assumed coordinate position of the navigator.
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      Unite i1 Eisenhauer States Patent Jan. 7, 1975 UNIVERSAL PLANISPIIERE COMPLETE GUIDANCE AND COMPUTER SYSTEM [75] Inventor: William A. Eisenhauer, Van Wert,

      Ohio

      [73] Assignee: The Eisenhauer Manufacturing 1 Company, Van Wert, Ohio [22] Filed: July 3, 1972 [21] App]. No.: 268,646

      Related US. Application Data [63] Continuation-impart of Ser. No. 500, Jan. 5, 1970, Pat. No. 3,678,710, which is .a continuation of Ser. No. 600,920, Dec. 12, 1966, abandoned, which is a continuation-in-part of Ser. No. 369,958, May 25, 1964, Pat. No. 3,290,799, which is a continuation-in-part of Ser. No. 271,658, April 9, 1963, Pat. No. 3,251,143, which is a continuationimpart of Ser. No. 851,648, Nov. 9, 1959, Pat. No. 3,088,228.

      [52] US. Cl. 35/44 [51] Int. Cl. G09b 29/00 [58] Field of Search 35/44, 43; 58/3, 42.5, 58/43 [56] References Cited UNITED STATES PATENTS 497,917 5/1893 Gleason 35/44 531,060 12/1894 Ormsby 35/44 1,873,595 8/1932 Johnson 35/44 2,921,386 1/1960 Stefano 35/44 3,290,799 12/1966 Eisenhauer…. 35/44 3,673,710 7/1972 Eisenhauer 35/44 FOREIGN PATENTS OR APPLICATIONS 822,910 11/1951 Germany 35/44 882,320 7/1953 Germany 35/44 595,089 11/1947 Great Britain .1 35/44 Primary Examiner–Wm. H. Grieb Attorney, Agent, or FirmWhittemore, l-lulbert & Belknap [57] ABSTRACT A planisphere for providing displays and effecting calculations in both astronomy and navigation and the method of operation thereof. The planisphere structure includes plurality of substantially circular, concentric, flat dials which are progressively larger in diameter toward a central, largest diameter dial on both sides of the central, largest diameter dial. The dials are pivotally mounted centrally and have both astronomy and navigation oriented scales as well as star and polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps thereon. Reference rules and transit scale indicators, Greenwich indicators and Aries indicators, the latter three of which are part of specific planisphere dlials, extend radially outwardly of the largest diameter dial on both sides of the planisphere and are connected together radially outwardly of each other respectively so that they may be readily moved relative to each other in angularly positioning the dials in operation of the planisphere. An altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator is provided with the planisphere to aid in triangulation operations and determining relative altitude and azimuth of celestial bodies when it is located on the assumed coordinate position of the navigator.

      In operation, the planisphere may be programmed to provide an overhead or ground position display of the stars in either of the northern or southern hemispheres viewable from different predetermined latitudes on a predetermined day at a selected time in a Copernican manner. Further, hour angle circle diagrams and navigators time diagrams may be solved on the planisphere of the invention to provide rapid, accurate information in conjunction with readily available printed reference material without the possibility of mathematical computation errors. Altitude and azimuth information with respect to celestial bodies is also available from the planisphere of the invention.

      Also, the relative direction of navigational stars and their’magnitude, declination and number are provided on one modification of the planisphere.

      21 Claims, 11 Drawing Figures Mont Jan. 7, 1975 7 Sheets-Sheet 2 Patented Jan. ‘2 1975 3,858,334

      7 Sheets-Sheet 5 I6 I00 l8 Patented Jan. 7, 1975 I 3,858,334

      7 Sheets-Sheet 4 Patented Jan. 7, 1975 7 SheetsSheet Patent in, 17 175 7 Sheets-Sheet 6 5/01. UJIGNI Jan/32131321 Pamnted Jan. 7, 1975 3,353,334

      I Sheets-Sheet 7 TRANSIT RID UNIVERSAL PLANISPI’IERE COMPLETE GUIDANCE AND COMPUTER SYSTEM CROSS REFERENCE TO RELATED APPLICATIONS The present application is a continuation-in-part of patent application Ser. No. 500, filed Jan. 5, 1970, which is now Pat. No. 3,678,710, issued July 4, 1972, which is a streamlined continuation application of application Ser. No. 600,920, filed Dec. 12, 1966, now abandoned, which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 369,958, filed May 25, 1964, which is now Pat. No. 3,290,799, issued Dec. 13, 1966, which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 271,658, filed Apr. 9, 1963, which is now Pat. No. 3,251,143, issued May 17, 1966, which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 851,648, filed Nov. 9, 1959, now Pat. No. 3,088,228, issued May 7, 1963.

      BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION 1. Field of the Invention The invention relates to planispheres and refers more specifically to planisphere structure for accomplishing both astronomical and navigational calculations and displays. Specifically, the planisphere of the invention includes structure for and may be operated to provide either an overhead or a ground position display of heavenly bodies in both the northern and southern hemispheres at different longitudes and latitudes in a Copernican manner. I-lour angle circle diagrams and navigators time diagrams may be programmed on the planisphere of the invention which also provides structure for directly indicating altitude and azimuth of celestial bodies and navigation east and navigation west scales to enable a correct conceptual approach to navigation problems. Information concerning stars useful in navigation is also obtainable from the structure of the planisphere of the invention.

      2. Description of the Prior Art In the past, structure for astronomical and navigational displays and calculations have generally been restricted to use in either astronomy or navigation. Further, the prior structures have usuallly been limited to use in a single hemisphere and to a predetermined latitude.

      No prior devices for solving hour angle circle diagrams or providing time diagram information without mathematical computation with the ease and facility of the planisphere of the invention or which provide a conceptuallly correct approach to navigation problems by the use of both navigation east and navigation west scales are known. In addition, while those engaged in prior navigational computations have sometimes incidentally used the Greenwich meridian as a starting point, in accordance with the present invention and in the present system, the use of the Greenwich meridian as a starting point is emphasized.

      Wherein navigational star information has been provided before, it has usually been in the form of charts and lists rather than on a planisphere scale in combination with other navigational and astronomical information.

      In particular, the star finder and identifier number I-I.O. 2102-D previously published by and obtainable from the U.S. Naval Oceanographic Office is limited in practicaluse to finding and identifying stars. It cannot function as a substitute for a time diagram since the mean time scales necessary for that purpose are not available. Orienting the sky map for either hemisphere properly by directing the south meridian or the longitude position due south from the northern hemisphere standpoint and the north meridian due north in the southern hemisphere is the prime and only limited, practical purpose of HO. 2102-D in the system of celestial navigation. Sight reduction according to present notions of time approximations of the nearest half-hour or so does not require accuracy with respect to azimuth and altude even to the extent of the grid application by rough interpolation provided by l-ll.O. 2lO2-D. In case accuracy is a requirement for sight reduction, Tables of Computed Altitude and Azimuth, published by U.S. Hydrographic Office Publication H0. 214, is a quickly available and more satisfactory source to serve that purpose.

      Also, it will be noted that 11.0. 2l02-D is disintegrated with respect to the many parts of dissembled structure necessary to even its limited ultimate use, in contrast to the completely integrated, totally interrelated structure of the planisphere of the invention.

      SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION The planisphere structure of the present invention provides concentric, relatively rotatable, different diameter dials of progressively larger diameter from outer dials on both sides of a central dial to the central dial having both navigation and astronomy scales and diagrams thereon with which information, such as obtained from the usual hour angle circle and navigators time diagram, may be obtained without mathematical computation and in a conceptually correct manner.

      Interchangeable sky maps are provided on dials of the planisphere of the present invention for displaying heavenly bodies, such as stars, in both the northern and southern hemispheres in both a zenith or overhead configuration and a ground position configuration to facilitate either astronomical or navigational use of the planisphere in either hemisphere. In conjunction with the sky maps, transparent sky mask dials are provided hav ing a plurality of horizon indications thereon, whereby the planisphere may be used at different latitudes as well as in both the northern and southern hemispheres. Greenwich dials which include an azimuthal equidistant projection of the northern and southern hemispheres thereon are provided between the sky map dials in a ground position configuration and the sky mask dials to aid in the Copernican understanding of the display of celestial bodies on a predetermined day at a selected time. The Greenwich dials are stored behind the sky map dials on the overhead side of the planisphere. In addition, navigation east and navigation west scales are provided on radially outer dials which also have a Greenwich G indication thereon to facilitate correct conceptual operation of the planisphere of the invention.

      Reference rules are provided extending radially outwardly from the center of the planisphere at which point they are pivotally mounted. The reference rules extend outwardly beyond the outer periphery of the largest diameter dial on both sides of the planisphere where they are connected. The reference rules aid in automatically aligning the various dials of the planisphere in use thereof. The automatic alignment of both sides of the planisphere on programming either side of the planisphere due to the planisphere structure provided and the two-sky configuration thereof is emphasized.

      Optionally a reference indicator extending radially in both north and south directions from a central azimuth altitude circle is provided for navigational use with the planisphere. With the reference indicator center posi tioned over the assumed position of the navigator on the ground configuration sky map dials, the relative azimuth and alitude of celestial bodies displayed on the associated sky maps may be determined directly and navigational triangulation sight considerations are facilitated.

      Transit scale indicators having a viewing window therein for viewing the scales on the larger diameter dials extend radially outwardly from the sky masks on both sides of the planisphere structure. The transit scale indicators are connected radially outwardly of the largest diameter dial. Similarly, Greenwich indicators are provided on the Greenwich dials and Aries indicators are provided on the sky map dials on both sides of the planisphere. The Greenwich and Aries indicators are also connected radially outwardly of the largest diameter dial. In the planisphere of the invention, the reference rules, transit scale indicators and Aries indicators are progressively shorter whereby the reference rules, transit scale indicators, and Aries indicators may readily pass through or over each other during programming of the planisphere.

      Also the planisphere is color coded to be a different color on opposite sides to prevent use of the wrong dials together with the planisphere in either a single hemisphere or dual hemisphere configuration. The important stars are given a common identification number on the star maps and on. ground position maps are individually named, while on overhead sky maps the constellations in which the stars appear are named.

      Navigational star information is provided on one of the relatively rotatable dials in a ground position configuration for the principal navigational stars in one modification of the planisphere of the invention.

      BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS FIG. 1 is a partial composite plan view of one side of a planisphere constructed in accordance with the invention for use with an assumed position in the northern hemisphere which has a ground position north configuration and includes a ground position north sky map dial.

      FIG. 2 is a partial section view of the planisphere illustrated in FIG. 1, taken substantially on the line 22 in FIG. 1.

      FIG. 3 is an enlarged plan view of the one side of the planisphere of FIG. 1 with the sky mask dial, reference rule and Greenwich dial removed therefrom.

      FIG. 4 is an enlarged plan view of the other side of the planisphere of the invention for use with an assumed position in the northern hemisphere similar to FIG. 3 which has an overhead north configuration and includes an overhead north sky map dial.

      FIG. 5 is a partial plan view of the reverse side of the ground position north sky map illustrated in FIG. 3 showing the ground position south sky map.

      FIG. 6 is a partial plan view of the reverse side of the overhead north sky map illustrated in FIG. 4 showing the overhead south sky map.

      FIG. 7 is a plan view of the sky mask dials of the planisphere of FIG. 1.

      FIG. 8 is a plan view of one of the Greenwich dials of the planisphere of FIG. 1 having a northern hemisphere polar azimuthal equidistant projection thereon.

      FIG. 9 is a plan view of the reference rules of the planisphere of FIG. 1.

      FIG. 10 is a plan view of an enlarged reference indicator for use with the planisphere of FIG. 1 including an azimuth-altitude circle in accordance with the invention.

      FIG. 11 is a composite plan view of a modified planisphere, such as illustrated in FIG. 1 on which the navigation number, magnitude, and declination of selected stars are provided.

      DESCRIPTION OF THE PREFERRED EMBODIMENT The planisphere 12, as shown in FIG. 1, includes the navigation east and west central dial 14, the Greenwich mean time and sun angle dial 16, a standard time dial 18, a local time dial 20, the Greenwich dials 22, the sky map dials 24 and sky mask dials 26. The planisphere 12 is completed with reference rules 28. Reference indicator 30, shown in FIG. 10, is also provided for use with the planisphere 12. The reference rules 28 are pivotally mounted concentrically with the dials 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24 and 26 of the planisphere 12, as illustrated in FIGS. 1 and 2. Dials 22, 24 and 26, as well as the reference rules 28, are provided on each side of the single central dial 14. In the embodiment of the invention shown in FIGS. 1 through 10, the dials 16, 18 and 20 are provided only on one side of the planisphere. The reference indicator or altitude and azimuth circle 30 is not mounted on planisphere 12, but may be centered on an observers longitude and latitude at the assumed position of the navigator on the maps provided on the dials of the planisphere for use as will be seen subsequently.

      As shown in FIG. 7, the sky mask dials 26 are constructed of clear plastic or some similar clear, formretaining but flexible material for the most part and include a meridian angle scale 32 around the outer periphery thereof which is calibrated in hours and degrees in opposite directions from the meridian at M” to the nadir meridian at m. A plurality of horizon configurations 34 are provided on the sky mask dials 26 to delineate the horizon of an observer at different latitudes with respect to the sky maps 36 on the sky map dials 24. Thus, the planisphere 12 may be used at a plurality of different latitudes.

      The sky mask dials 26 are further provided with transit scale indicator portions 38 extending radially outwardly from one edge thereof, as shown in FIG. 7. The transit scale indicator portions 38 have a clear window 40 therein across which a meridian indicator 44 is placed and through which portions of the other dials may be viewed in operation of the planisphere 12. The scales on the dials 14, 16, 18, 20, 22 and 24 are designated on the transit scale indicator portions 38 of the sky mask dials 26.

      The reference rules 28, as shown best in FIG. 9, include a reference indicator line 46 thereon and are also constructed of clear plastic.

      The reference indicator or altitude and azimuth circle 30, as shown best in FIG. 10, is universal and includes a circular portion 39 and a generally linear portion 42. The circular portion 39 has azimuth scales 41 and 43 thereon extending respectively from zero to 180 from north and from zero to 180 from south. The linear portion 42 includes altitude angle scales 45 and 47 extending in opposite directions toward the center thereof along north and south reference lines 35 and 37. On the ends of the linear portion 42, the azimuth formula for azimuth east of north and west of north in either hemisphere is provided. Centrally, a first triangle is provided having an apex pointing along the axis of the linear portion 42 of the reference indicator 30 in a north direction. Reference lines 49 and 51 are provided at 120 both east and west of the reference line 35 which are labeled N” and which pass through the intersections of the sides and base of the first triangle which is an equilateral triangle. The triangle and reference lines aid in sighting celestial bodies for navigational triangulation computations. Similarly, a second triangle and reference lines 53 and 55, 120 east and west of the south reference line 37 on the linear portion 42 of the reference indicator 30 are provided for use in sighting stars in navigational triangulation.

      In use for surface navigation, the reference indicator must be centered at an assumed position of an observer on an azimuthal equidistant projection sky map centered at the assumed position of the navigator and the reference indicator rotated to position the reference line north or south over a selected star on the sky map or to the reference given in inspection tables in H0. 214 and the azimuth and altitude of the reference star can be determined directly from the scales on the reference indicator read in relation to true north and south. Further, with the 120 reference lines on the indicator, triangulation sightings of additional selected stars are facilitated with the indicator so oriented.

      The Greenwich indicator dial 22 illustrated in FIG. 8 is in a ground position north configuration with a northern hemisphere azimuthal equidistance polar map 65 thereon. The zero hour and degree indicator 50 is provided on the Greenwich indicator portion 52 extending radially from the Greenwich indicator dial 22, as shown in FIG. 8. Since it is desired to use a Greenwich indicator dial 22 for planispheres relating to both north and south hemispheres, an azimuthal equidistant configuration centered at the South Pole is required on the other dial 22. The Greenwich indicator dials are also of clear plastic.

      The sky map dial 24 in the configuration shown in FIG. 3 includes a representation of the ground position of the most important individual stars 54 in the northern hemisphere. Radially outwardly of the sky map 36, the sky map dial 24 shown in FIG. 3 is provided with a date scale 56, a right ascension degree scale 58, a right ascension hours of sidereal time scale 60 and a si dereal hour angle scale 62. As shown, the sidereal hour angle scale 62 proceeds clockwise and the right ascension degree and hours and sidereal time scales 58 and 60 are counterclockwise.

      If the sky map dial 24 were in an overhead north configuration or in a ground position south configuration, as shown in FIGS. 4 and 5, these scales would be in the opposite direction.

      The overhead north and ground position south configuration for the planisphere 12, including dials 14, 16, 18, and 24 on which the scales are reversed in direction, is illustrated in FIG. 4 in conjunction with the overhead north sky map 76 on which the constellations which include the most important stars are shown. In an overhead south configuration, as shown in FIG. 6,

      the scales on the sky map dial would be in the same direction as in the ground position north configuration shown in FIG. 3.

      In FIGS. 3, 4, 5, and 6, the star configurations for ground position north, overhead north, ground position south and overhead south, respectively, are represented in terms of the most important individual stars or constellations in which these stars are present. The stars and their constellations can, of course, be named on planispheres where size permits as well as being numbered.

      The sky map 36, illustrated in FIG. 6, may be printed on the back of the sky map dial 24 shown in FIG. 4, so that the remaining dials of the planisphere in the overhead south and ground position north configuration may be used in conjunction therewith. The sky map configuration 36 illustrated in FIG. 5 may be printed on the back of the sky map dial 24 illustrated inFIG. 3.

      The planisphere configuration illustrated in FIG. 4 is completed with a Greenwich dial 22 and with a sky mask dial 26.

      The different configurations provide flexibility of use of the planisphere of the invention in either the northern or southern hemisphere and permit a star display for either navigation or astronomy purposes in the manner most normal to either the astronomer or navigator. The two sides of the planisphere as well as both sides of the sky map dials may be: color coded to provide identical color for all dials correctly in use on either side of the planisphere.

      As shown in FIG. 4, the local time dial 20 includes a time scale proceeding clockwise from midnight. A sun indication 82 is provided at the noon position on the local time dial 20. Radially inwardly of the local time scale 80, both twenty-eight day 84 and thirty-two day 86 moon phase indications proceeding clockwise are also provided on the local time dial for use in estimating moon phases in conjunction with known almanac information.

      Standard time dial 18 extends radially outwardly from the local time dial 20, and is provided with a standard time scale 87 thereon, also’proceeding clockwise.

      The Greenwich mean time and sun angle dial 16 includes both a sun angle scale 92 proceeding clockwise and a Greenwich mean time scale 94 proceeding clockwise from midnight, as shown in FIG. 4. The Greenwich mean time and sun angle dial 16 is used essentially in astronomical applications and as shown in FIG. 1 is deleted from the ground position side of the planisphere along with the local and standard time dials.

      The navigation east and west dial 14 has both navigation east and navigation west scales 88 and at the outer periphery on both sides thereof. The scales 88 and 90 extend for 360 counterclockwise and clockwise, respectively, from a zero position at which Greenwich is indicated with a large G 100, as shown in FIGS. 1 and 3. The navigation east and west scales are useful in navigational computations.

      In the broader sense, scales 88 and 90 teach the reciprocal nature of their mutual bond essential in principle to the study of navigation. These scales also graphically demonstrate the principle of reversibility employed throughout the design structure of the planisphere 12 and are, of course, directly related to the sidereal hour angle and right ascension methods of astronomical computation.

      In addition, the navigation east and navigation west scales permit a more conceptually correct visualization of problem solving by assuming a position in one hemisphere and measuring east or west than is possible with the currently popular navigational method of problem solving including always measuring to the west by assuming a position beyond the South Pole looking toward the North Pole of the terrestrial sphere.

      In the structure of the planisphere 12, as shown in FIGS. 1 and 2, the reference rules 28, the scale indicator portions 38 of the sky mask dials 26, the Greenwich indicator portions 52 of the Greenwich dials 22, and the Aries indicator portion 63 of the sky map dials 24 are connected together at their radially outward extremity and are progressively shorter radially, respectively, as shown.

      With such structure, the reference rules 28 may be moved over the scale indicators 38, Greenwich indicators 52 and Aries indicators 63 in programming the planisphere 12. Similarly, the scale indicator may be moved over the Greenwich indicator and Aries indicator. The Greenwich indicator and Aries indicator can move into contact with each other but cannot pass through or over each other, since in a ground position configuration, the Greenwich dial is placed over the sky map dial, while in an overhead configuration, the sky map dial is placed over the Greenwich dial. Thus, the Greenwich indicators and Aries indicators conflict on at least one side of the planisphere 12. However, the Greenwich and Aries indicators can be moved through substantially 360 with respect to each other in programming the planisphere.

      As an example of the use of the planisphere for purposes of astronomy, assume that it is desired to provide a celestial sphere display of the stars primarily for astronomical purposes on a predetermined day at a selected time and to provide that display in a Copernican manner. Referring particularly to the planisphere structure 12 in the configuration illustrated in FIG. 4 and the side thereof shown, the date on the sky map, for example March 11, is positioned opposite the sun indication on the local time dial 20. Subsequently, the sky mask dial 26 is rotated to place the meridian indicator line 44 on the selected time on the local time dial. The horizon limits 34 for the observers latitude are then considered to define the horizon of the observer which includes therewithin all of the stars visible on the predetermined date at the selected time.

      As the sky mask dial 26 is rotated, the Copernican theory of orientation of the heavenly bodies is evident, particularly if the Greenwich indicator 52 of dial 22 on the opposite side of the planisphere 12, as shown in FIG. 1, which has a North Pole centered azimuthal equidistant projection map imprinted thereon, as aligned with the meridian indicator line 44 so that when considering both sides of the planisphere the Earth appears to rotate relative to a fixed sun position locked into a predetermined date.

      With the planisphere 12 as shown in FIG. 4 so programmed, it may then be held vertical with the meridian indicator 44 pointing down and with the holder of the planisphere facing south. The sky immediately presented to the observer should then be properly oriented with the planisphere for direct comparison. As the observer turns to the right or left, the planisphere may be slowly rolled or rotated about the center thereof to maintain the exact sky picture immediately presented to the observer on the planisphere.

      The planisphere of FIG. 4 may then be turned over and with a ground position north sky map, as shown in FIG. 1 and 3 thereon, computations similar to those described immediately above may be made for navigational purposes.

      During such operation, the completely integrated system aspect of the planisphere is evident. Thus, in programming the ground position side of the planisphere, the overhead side of the planisphere is also programmed so that switching from side to side ofthe planisphere for checking purposes or due to greater familiarity with the overhead astronomy approach or the ground position, navigation approach is possible. For example, navigation stars on the ground position side of the planisphere may be checked with the location of these stars in their constellations given on the overhead side of the planisphere.

      The system aspect of the planisphere 12 is further emphasized due to the position of the ground position and overhead sky maps on the opposite sides of the planisphere. Thus, with the planisphere positioned horizontal with the ground position sky map side up, the overhead sky map is conceptually correctly oriented so that it may be viewed with understanding by merely raising the planisphere to look at the underside of it.

      The completeness of the universal planisphere 12 is evident by considering an observer who moves from one hemisphere, the northern hemisphere discussed primarily above, to the southern hemisphere where overhead south and ground position south sky maps must be used. When it is desired to function with overhead south and ground position south sky maps, the sky map dials 24 along with the required associated dials are turned over and exchanged, and the planisphere is operated as above for both astronomy and navigation in the southern hemisphere.

      The two sides of the planisphere 12 and the two sides of the sky map dials 24 and the associated dials which are printed on both sides as indicated above are color coded to maintain a single color as for example blue on one side and black on the other side for all correct positioning of the sky maps 24 on the planisphere 12. Thus, use of sky maps and associated dials which do not properly relate to the planisphere dials is prevented when the planisphere is a single hemisphere planisphere not requiring sky maps printed on both sides as well as when the planisphere is intended for use in either hemisphere. The reference rules 28 and azimuth and altitude circle 30 may be color coded red, indicating that they may be used on either side of the planisphere.

      Thus, the concept of the universal planisphere 12 is of a completely integrated single instrument which can be used for complete astronomical and navigational calculations in both the northern and southern hemispheres to replace the limited utility of the prior structures such as the Navy Star Finder and Identifier 2102- D. Further, the added utility of the planisphere 12 is accomplished with conceptual accuracy by assuming an observers position in either hemisphere and going right or left for east or west as required instead of assuming a false position beyond the South Pole and proceeding in one direction always for west and the opposite direction for east as urged in prior navigation techniques.

      The planisphere in use as a navigational instrument, including the ground position north sky map as shown in FIG. 3, may be used to solve the usual navigators time diagram, as discussed on page 89 of the reference book, Navigation The Easy Way” by Carl D. Lane and John Montgomery, published by W. W. Norton company, Inc., New York, N.Y., in 1949.

      In such operation, the Greenwich time is provided by a separate timepiece. Any correction due to the positioning of the user east or west of a standard meridian can be made through the use of the standard and local time dials l8 and 20 on the other side of the planisphere, as explained in the above referenced prior pa tents and patent application. These time dials are not necessary to the use of the planisphere in navigation for determining meridian angle as will be seen from the following discussion.

      Consider the assumed longitude of 48 west, a sidereal hour angle of a star of 188 and a Greenwich hour angle of Aries of 88. Further, assume that the date is Feb. 3, 1967, and the Greenwich mean time is twentyone hundred hours. In other words, the local hour angle of the star would be 228 to the west of the assumed position or 132 to the east.

      To determine local hour angle or meridian angle, the three indicators, scale indicator 38, reference indicator 28, and the Greenwich indicator 52 are used. First, move the Greenwich mean time dial 16 to twenty-one hours at the zero indication on the Greenwich hour angle dial 18. Place the sun symbol 82 on the local time dial 20 at the zero degree indication on the Greenwich time dial 16. Move south meridian line 50 on the Greenwich dial 22 to zero indication on the Greenwich hour angle dial 16 and move the sky mask dial 26 so that the south meridian line 44 indicates 48 west on the Greenwich hour angle dial 16. Then add the measure of Aries 88 to the sidereal hour angle of the star 188 to obtain 276 applied to the Greenwich hour angle dial 16. The reference indicator 30 is used for this purpose. The meridian angle is then 132 to the east and is automatically measured on the meridian angle scale 32 of the sky mask dial 26 where the reference indicator 26 crosses the meridian angle scale.

      The meridian angle, which is 132 in the present example, is then used in conjunction with standard tables of Computed Altitude and Azimuth, published for example in the Hydrographic Office publication Number 214, by the United States Government, in proceeding to determine the Sumner line of position, as disclosed in the above referenced publication, Navigation The Easy Way by the Marq St. Hilaire method.

      The altitude and azimuth of additional navigational stars may also be found by the mathematical approach indicated above for triangulation.

      At this point it should be noted that only the d correction is used in the discourse on navigation contained herein.

      For rough approximations or in addition to the mathematical approach indication above, the altitude and azimuth of the selected navigation star may also be used with the reference rule 30 to facilitate pointing at the navigation stars useful to determine the intercept correction and to establish the exact position of the navigator by triangulation.

      The planisphere structure of the invention as disclosed above and when operated as indicated has other advantages which make mistakes in computing practically impossible. Thus, due to the dual-sky concept of planisphere 12 and because the altitude-azimuth circle of the reference indicator is applied in surface navigation at the assumed position of the navigator, based on the readings of the trigonometric developed results as logged, the azimuthal considerations are legitimately expressed in terms ofAZ which can be taken directly from H0. 214 instead of the complement Z as is necessary with prior one-sky concept navigational aids.

      Also with the planisphere 12, once the programming of the time dials on the astronomical side are set, the position of the sun symbol also automatically indicates whether the navigator should apply the same navigational date of the navigator or not as he takes readings from the Nautical Almanac. Thus, when the sun symbol falls between the midnight position of the navigator (m) and the midnight position of Greenwich (g), two different dates are indicated. When the sun symbol falls outside these two date control indicators, then the navigational date of the navigator and Greenwich are the same.

      In the modified planisphere structure illustrated in FIG. 11, an additional dial 104 is provided between the Greenwich hour angle dial and the standard time dial. The dial 104 includes navigation star information thereon. As shown, the navigation number of the star, the magnitude of the star and the declination of the star at a particular latitude are displayed.

      In other respects, the planisphere 102 is similar to the planisphere l2 and may be used for providing desired displays of the heavenly bodies and for solving the navigators time diagram without mathematical computation as set forth above.

      While one embodiment and a modification of the present invention have been considered in detail, it will be understood that other embodiments and modifications are contemplated by the inventor.

      Thus, while the specific embodiment of the invention disclosed has emphasized the operation and results of generally accepted planisphere operation, it will be understood that the planisphere or correlator of the invention may be used to direct both kinds of telescopes employed in astronomy with the same accuracy as the sextant with equal sophistication. The Alt-azimuth telescope would be practically directed on exactly the same basis with a bubble oriented setting of the scope. the equatorial mounted telescope would be set on the meridian angle basis plus the declination determined reading of the sky object for pointing guidance.

      Further, it will be understood that the principles behind the particular planisphere structure disclosed above are universal in application. Thus, for example, the same application of straight-line navigational procedure using azimuthal equidistant projections set forth above is equally as valid when applied to spacecraft navigation. Once the astronauts position as it relates to the fixed background of the sky objects is determined, Houston Control Center is in a position to determine a straight-line course’to bring the spaceship to a predetermined location on Earth or on the moon and fix the time of arrival of the spacecraft at the location.

      The astronauts could use the planisphere 12 to check their position in space against a reference of fixed stars and true north on the Earth as above. Subsequently, after being given a straight-line course from Houston to enable them to properly approach Earth considering the required reentry angle, Earth gravity, desired splashdown point, etc., the astronauts could use the planisphere 12 to check the course given them by using a reverse procedure working back from the required splashdown point but still considering point-to-point navigation in a straight line.

      Further, it is pointed out that straight-line navigation is conceptually correct in both space and terrestrial navigation since two points either in space or on the Earth when projected on a parallel plane through the center of the Earth define a straight-line vector on the plane. Such vector also includes the projection of all points on a great circle through the two points. Such a parallel plane serves navigation better than measurements on a sphere which fails to suggest altitude. Also, such straight-line navigational techniques thus allowed permit the use of the reference indicator as described above.

      It is therefore the intention to include all embodiments, modifications and applications as are encompassed by the appended claims within the scope of the invention.

      What I claim as my invention is:

      1. A sky and ground correlation, complete guidance and computer system providing an integrated scale model of the universe comprising a plurality of concentric dials of progressively smaller diameter having navigational and astronomical scales thereon, a sky map on the smallest of the plurality of dials having an Aries indicator portion extending radially therefrom, A Greenwich indicator dial which has a Greenwich indicator portion extending radially therefrom over the plurality of dials positioned concentric with and adjacent the smallest of the plurality of dials, a reference rule extending radially outwardly of the planisphere over the Greenwich indicator dial and plurality of dials, a sky mask dial positioned over the concentric with the Greenwich indicator dial having a transit scale indicator and a horizon indication thereon and means securing all the dials and reference rule together centrally of the dials for rotation relative to each other whereby both astronomical and navigational displays and automatic computations may be readily accomplished.

      2. A system as set forth in claim 1 wherein the Greenwich indicator dial, reference rule, and sky mask dial are constructed of a transparent material.

      3. A system as set forth in claim 1 and further including a polar centered azimuthal equidistant projection map on the Greenwich indicator dial having the Pole position in the center thereof.

      4. A system as set forth in claim 1 and further including a plurality of horizon lines on the sky mask dial indicating the horizon of a viewer at different latitudes on the sky map.

      5. A system as set forth in claim 1 wherein at least some of the plurality of dials are repeated on both sides of the largest diameter dial and the Greenwich indicator dial, reference rule and sky mask dial are also repeated on both sides of the largest diameter dial and one side of the planisphere has a northern ground position configuration and the other side of the planisphere has a northern overhead configuration to facilitate use of the planisphere with both navigational and astronomical considerations whereby the universal concept of the system is advanced and computations are automatically programmed on both sides of the system.

      6. A system as set forth in claim 5 wherein the sky map and associated dials are printed on both sides to include a ground position north and south configuration and an overhead north and south configuration on opposite sides thereof to facilitate use of the planisphere in both the northern and southern hemispheres to complete the universal concept of the planisphere so that the map configurations not in use are stored on operating portions of the system to allow representing both hemispheres in a single unit system.

      7. A system as set forth in claim 5 wherein the Aries indicator is radially aligned with the position of Aries on the sky maps and the reference rules, transit scale indicator portion ofthe sky mask dials, Greenwich indicator portion of the Greenwich dials and the Aries indicator portion of the sky map dials are progressively shorter respectively and are connected together at their outer ends radially outwardly of the largest diameter dial whereby the reference rules, transit scale indicators, Greenwich indicators and Aries indicators may all be rotated substantially 360 with respect to each other to facilitate programming of the system.

      8. A system as set forth in claim 7 and including a navigation east and navigation west scale on one of the plurality of dials, and further including the method of operation of the system comprising automatically programming both sides of the system at once when setting the transit scale indicator to the assumed position of the navigator, programming the Greenwich hour angle of Aries and the sidereal hour angle of a sighted star on one of the navigation scales and reading the meridian angle from a meridian angle scale on the sky map dial under the reference indicator to solve a navigational time diagram and subsequently permit determination of a Sumner line of position in conjunction with published altitude and azimuth tables.

      9. A system as set forth in claim 1 wherein one of the plurality of dials includes navigation east and navigation west scales thereon which permit a two-sky correct conceptual approach to navigation problems.

      10. A system as set forth in claim 1 and further including an altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator including a circular portion of a diameter equal to the equator circle of the sky map on the sky map dial having azimuth east and west degree scales thereon at the outer periphery thereof, and a linear portion extending radially outwardly of the circular portion having a north and a south end and including an altitude angle scale thereon and reference lines on the circular portion angularly positioned in both directions from the north end of the linear portion and 120 in both directions from the south end of the linear portion.

      11. A system as set forth in claim 10 and further including the method of sighting stars on the azimuthal equidistant projection map with the altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator centered at an assumed position comprising centering the altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator over the assumed position and rotating the altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator to place the azimuth of the star which is mathematically determined and indicated on the altitude, azimuth circle of the altitude and azimuth circle reference indicator on the north, south indication on the map so that the linear portion of the reference indicator points directly toward the star itself.

      12. A system as set forth in claim 1 wherein one of the plurality of dials has the navigation number, magnitude and declination of navigational stars positioned angularly therearound.

      13. A system as set forth in claim 1 and including a local time scale on the periphery of one of the plurality of dials and a sun indication at noon on the local time scale, a date scale positioned peripherally around the sky map dial and a polar map on the Greenwich indicator and further including the method of operation of the system comprising rotating the sky map to fix the position of the Earth on a predetermined date on the date scale adjacent the sun indication on the local time dial, setting the Greenwich indicator dial so that the longitude of the viewer is on the south meridian of the sky map and subsequently rotating the Greenwich indi cator dial and sky mask dial to the selected time and viewing the star configuration at the selected time on the predetermined date within a selected horizon line on the sky mask dial.

      1 1. The system as set forth in claim 13 and further including the method of determining the distance from an observers south meridian to the meridian of a star on the sky map comprising setting the reference rule on a star in view and reading the meridian angle of the star from a degree scale on the sky mask.

      15. A system as set forth in claim 1 and including a navigation east and navigation west scale on one of the plurality of dials and further including the method of operation of the system comprising programming the Greenwich hour angle of Aries and the sidereal hour angle of a sighted star on one of the navigation scales and reading the meridian angle from a meridian angle scale on the sky map dial under the reference indicator to solve a navigation time diagram and subsequently permit determination of a Sumner line of position in conjunction with published altitude and azimuth tables.

      16. A universal structure for effecting a two-sky conceptually correct model of the celestial system comprising a planisphere including a central dial, separate radially smaller sky map dials concentric with and on opposite sides of the central dial secured to the central dial for rotation with respect thereto about the center thereof with navigational stars in a ground position configuration exposed on one side of the planisphere and constellations including the navigational stars exposed on the other side of the planisphere in an overhead configuration for the same hemisphere and at least one Greenwich dial positioned over the sky map dial in the overhead configuration and concentric therewith including a polar equidistant map thereon whereby when navigational stars are plotted on the one side of the planisphere the same stars in their astronomical constellations are simultaneously plotted on the other side of the planisphere.

      17. Structure as set forth in claim 16 wherein degree scales are provided on the central dial radially outwardly of the sky map dials and Greenwich dial running for 360 in both clockwise and counterclockwise directions from a zero indication whereby navigation may be accomplished from an assumed position in either hemisphere without the necessity of assuming a position beyond the South Pole as in current Navy navigational techniques.

      18. A system as set forth in claim 17 and further including the method of navigation with the universal structure for effecting a two-sky concept celestial system comprising assuming a position in either hemisphere and proceeding to the right or left for east or west under essentially correct assumptions.

      19. The method as set forth in claim 18 and further including the step of reversing the sky map and associated dials on the opposite sides of the central dial and securing them to the other sides of the central dial on assuming a position in a different hemisphere.

      20. Structure as set forth in claim 16 wherein the sky maps are printed on both sides with a ground position sky map of one hemisphere on one side on the back of an overhead position sky map of the other hemisphere on the other side whereby on reversing the sides of the sky maps and placing them on the opposite sides of the planisphere the planisphere may be altered to permit navigational and astronomical calculations in either hemisphere.

      21. Structure as set forth in claim 20 wherein the dials useful on either side of the planisphere are color coded the same color to prevent any possible use of dials on the wrong side of the planisphere in reorganization of the dials.

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      • #106 by Anonymous on June 28, 2016 - 9:53 am

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        • #107 by Anonymous on July 4, 2016 - 3:20 pm

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          • #108 by Anonymous on July 4, 2016 - 10:58 pm

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  36. #111 by Anonymous on July 4, 2016 - 8:46 am

    I will give one answer to this question; why would such a complex lie have been promulgated? Because there is a concerted 500 year (really even longer) effort to warp history and science to cause people to believe there is no Creator period. That’s the bottom line.

  37. #112 by Anonymous on July 4, 2016 - 12:40 pm

    The oldest book in the Bible-Job 37:18

    Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

    • #113 by Anonymous on July 5, 2016 - 9:17 pm

      The Bible is a lot of things, but it is about the farthest from a scientific text as possible. Using it as such is folly.

  38. #114 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 11:58 am

    There is a person going by the name of Matt Karaffa that is making fun of Mr. Imbriano constantly on the Nextdoor Neighborhood page for Fullerton, California. He actually is the one that posted this link on the forum. Since this Matt person is constantly going around at every turn and making derogatory statements about Mr. Imbriano, I felt compelled to investigate why Matt is so threatened by Mr. Imbriano’s work.

    Well it turns out that Matt Karaffa is an engineer that works for a company that makes the chips for all sorts of wireless devices. Therein lies Matt’s problem. He is part of the problem. Now we know why he is so threatened by Joe. While I do not agree with everything on Joe’s blog, I do respect his fervor and genuine concern for his fellow human being. That is a true sign of a leader.

    My family has had military careers spanning decades and everyone one of them that I have consulted with agree with the premise that microwave radiation is harmful and that geoengineering is actually taking place. It is called solar radiation management and these programs are underway all over the world. By the way, 2 air force pilots in my family have confirmed that the GPS system is completely terrestrial. My uncle who is a commercial airline pilot pointed out to me that the mechanical gyroscopes used on all the flight decks prove travel is occurring on a flat plane.

    As far as this subject, my husband completely agrees with Joe and he had a great point. The problem is the brainwashing of the masses is so thorough that it is virtually impossible for the average person to believe what is right in front of his or her eyes.

    • #115 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 2:00 pm

      Just because someone thinks Joe is a joke doesn’t necessarily mean they feel threatened by them. Looks like Matt is a smart guy, not taken in by the idiocy presented on this site.

      • #116 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 3:33 pm

        Anyone that is an engineer for a company that makes wireless devices and then makes derogatory statements about a person or persons that bring forth information from scientists about the dangers of wireless devices is either a child or just an immoral person. It is one thing to respectfully disagree but Mr. Karraffa engages with no substance or class.

        • #117 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 4:12 pm

          Respectfully disagreeing is one thing that doesn’t happen on this site from Joe, why should it be expected from others?

      • #118 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 5:49 pm

        Okay, Matt Karafa, whatever you say.

        You are in love with your technology, we get it. Why not find something more constructive to do with your time? What a small minded wimp you are.

        • #119 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 9:27 pm

          And you, Joe, are in love with yourself.

          • #120 by Joe Imbriano on July 17, 2016 - 9:49 pm

            The comment was not from me. Looks like Mr. Karaffa has brought himself over some sort of a following.

            • #121 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 10:17 pm

              Hah! Can you even prove that? Or are we just supposed to take your word as scripture?

      • #122 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 8:09 pm

        From the looks of Matthew Karaffa’s twitter account, it appears that he spends an inordinate amount of his time tweeting from what in my honest opinion is the sleaziest bar in downtown Fullerton, the Slidebar…which is the same place that called the police on Kelly Thomas.

        Boycott-The-Slidebar-Fullerton-CA-409015952470315

        Tells me all I need to know about Matt Karaffa.

        • #123 by Tina on July 17, 2016 - 8:31 pm

          He also appears to be obsessed with Joe and dogs.

          • #124 by Anonymous on July 18, 2016 - 7:02 am

            And farts, is that why Matt don’t get none?

    • #125 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 3:10 pm

      Education and intelligence can be mutually exclusive. It is more the norm rather than the exception.

      • #126 by Anonymous on July 17, 2016 - 4:55 pm

        Joe is a prime example of this.

        • #127 by Anonymous on November 15, 2016 - 8:17 am

          I would beg to differ.

  39. #128 by Anonymous on October 30, 2016 - 11:01 pm

    Seriously folks, don’t you realize that It wouldn’t take more than a few hundred people to hide the truth about this?

    And most of you actually believe this is some conspiracy theory or something? It is really designed to keep power and wealth over another more sinister motive. If people continue to think the world is round, NASA and defense agencies can profit wildly from their programs, it confuses developing nations and keeps the balance of power within the technologically developed nations.

    Knowledge is power. Power is a thing the conspirators want to keep.

  40. #129 by Anonymous on November 19, 2016 - 12:01 am

    The earth is flat. God made it that way. There is no 24 hour sun at antartica. The devil doesn’t want anyone to find out that The Bible is True and God is real. The Bible tells that the earth is flat. The devil runs the government, schools, media..etc.

  41. #130 by Anonymous on November 22, 2016 - 10:11 pm

    For millenia, ancient civilizations all over the world over believed Earth to be the flat. They understood it to be the immovable center of the universe around which the heavens revolved in its daily cycles in perfect circles.

    This stable geocentric universe, proven true over and over again by experience and experiments, which reigned undisputed for thousands of years adequately explaining all Earthly and celestial phenomena, was violently uprooted, spun around, and sent flying through infinite space by a cabal of Sun-worshipping theoretical astronomers.

    Early Masonic magicians like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and Newton, along with their modern Masonic astro-not counter-parts like Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins, hand-in-hand with NASA and world Freemasonry have pulled off the greatest hoax, propagated the most phenomenal lie, and perpetuated the most complete indoctrination in history

    • #131 by Anonymous on November 23, 2016 - 1:14 pm

      Thelemite occultist and population reduction advocate Jack Parsons fathered the dark spiritual birth of NASA. Joe is absolutely correct about NASA. Only a fool would refuse to research something of this magnitude. The deception is so effectual. Consider the infinite realm of possibilities involved with a lie about something as big as the shape of the earth. What else would you put past the so called Shamanists who rule our perceived reality?

  42. #132 by Anonymous on November 23, 2016 - 11:17 am

    Have you ever read Zetetic astronomy? I would bet you haven’t. From a young age, we have been indoctrinated by liars. Our entire education system has been built systematically precept upon precept of lie after lie with heliocentrism as the focal point on science. The truth is the Globe earth is a lie. Cultures the world over throughout all of human history have repeatedly described and purported the existence of a geocentric, stationary flat Earth.

    Egyptians, Indians, Mayans, Chinese, Native Americans and literally every other ancient civilization on Earth ascribed to the geocentric flat-Earth cosmology. Before Pythagoras, the idea of a spinning ball-Earth was non-existent and even after Pythagoras it remained an obscure minority view until 2000 years later when Copernicus began reviving the pharisaical heliocentric theory.

  43. #133 by Art on December 1, 2016 - 10:24 am

    Think about this if you will for just a moment. Imagine that If we really had to compensate for the curvature of the earth, then we would always be driving uphill or downhill only. We would certainly be able to feel this as our cars use more fuel uphill. Then of course the downhill- downhill would require brake jobs on a monthly basis. We see and experience neither..

    • #134 by Anonymous on December 6, 2016 - 8:54 am

      Someone doesn’t understand how gravity works…

      • #135 by Anonymous on December 7, 2016 - 2:34 pm

        Gravity has never been proven to exist. Density is what governs it all. Density has been proven to exist and primarily in the skulls of the shills that reside here on this site.

        • #136 by Anonymous on December 11, 2016 - 11:51 am

          And you’re a prime example of density!

  44. #137 by Anonymous on December 6, 2016 - 2:40 pm

    Imbriano’s assertions are Biblical.

    Scriptures concerning the nature of the heavens/sky above and their relationship to the earth:

    Job 9:
    6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
    7 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
    8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

    Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit {Hebrew: “chug”} of heaven.
    Job 22:14 (HCSB) Clouds veil Him so that He cannot see, as He walks on the circle of the sky.
    Job 22:14 (ASV) Thick clouds are a covering to him, so that he seeth not; And he walketh on the vault of heaven.

    Job 26:
    7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
    8 He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is not rent under them.
    9 He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it.
    10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.
    11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.
    12 He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud.
    13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.

    Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

    Genesis 1:
    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
    6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
    8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

    Genesis 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;

    2 Samuel 22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.

    Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

    Psalm 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.

    Psalm 78:
    21 Therefore the Lord heard this, and was wroth: so a fire was kindled against Jacob, and anger also came up against Israel;
    22 Because they believed not in God, and trusted not in his salvation:
    23 Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened the doors of heaven,
    24 And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven.
    25 Man did eat angels’ food: he sent them meat to the full.

    Psalm 104:
    1 Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
    2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
    3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

    Psalm 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

    Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set {Hebrew: “chaqaq”} a compass {Hebrew: “chug”} upon the face of the depth:
    Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep.

    Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

    Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
    Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He’s the one who sits above the disk of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He’s the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in,

    Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

    Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

    Isaiah 48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.

    Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

    Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

    Amos 9:6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
    Amos 9:6 (ASV) it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heavens, and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; Jehovah is his name.
    Amos 9:6 (ESV) it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heaven, and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; the LORD is his name.
    Amos 9:6 (Darby) It is he that buildeth his upper chambers in the heavens, and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: Jehovah is his name.
    Amos 9:6 (NASB) The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth,
    He who calls for the waters of the sea And pours them out on the face of the earth, The Lord is His name.

    Scriptures concerning the nature of the earth below the firmament:

    Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.

    Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

    Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.

    Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;

    Job 37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.

    Job 38:
    1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
    2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
    3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
    4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
    6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
    7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

    Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

    Genesis 1:
    9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
    10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
    11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

    1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and he hath set the world upon them.

    2 Samuel 22:16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the Lord, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

    1 Chronicles 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

    Psalm 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.

    Psalm 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

    Psalm 93:1 The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

    Psalm 96:
    9 O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth.
    10 Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
    11 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof.

    Psalm 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

    Psalm 104:
    5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
    6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
    7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
    8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
    9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

    Psalm 136:
    6 To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

    Proverbs 8:
    27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set {Hebrew: “chaqaq”} a compass {Hebrew: “chug”} upon the face of the depth: – (ESV) When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep.
    28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
    29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

    Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

    Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

    Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
    Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He’s the one who sits above the disk of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He’s the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in,

    Isaiah 43:6 I’ll say to the north, ‘Give them up’! and to the south, ‘Don’t keep them back!’ Bring my sons from far away and my daughters from the ends of the earth—

    Daniel 4:
    10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
    11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:

    Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

    Matthew 4:
    8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

    Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    John 17:24
    Father, I desire that they also, whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world.

    Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

    Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

    Revelation 20:8 He will go out to deceive Gog and Magog, the nations at the four corners of the earth, and gather them for war. They are as numerous as the sands of the seashore.

    Scriptures concerning the nature of the sun, moon and stars:

    Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

    Genesis 1:
    14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
    15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
    16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
    17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
    18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

    Deuteronomy 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

    Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

    Judges 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.

    Psalms 19:
    1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
    2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
    3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
    4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
    5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
    6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

    Psalm 136:
    7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:
    8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:
    9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.

    Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

    Psalm 148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

    Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

    Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
    10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

    Isaiah 38:8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

    Ezekiel 32:
    7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.
    8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord God.

    Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

    Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

    Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

    Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

    Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

    Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

    1 Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

    Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

    Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

    Revelation 8:
    10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
    11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
    12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

    Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

    Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Again, applying no preconceived notions upon the text, how do you imagine a newcomer to the Scriptures would view the heavens, earth, sun, moon and stars just based on what you’ve read here?

    If I were to be perfectly honest here, I’d have to say that I do not get a spherical globe, spinning around in an endless void of space from my reading of the above Scriptures. The Bible seems to be telling us, in no uncertain terms, that we live on a still (as in stationary), flat, enclosed earth. The following explains why I believe this way.

    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    This is an introductory statement. It establishes the fact that Elohim is the creator of everything. From there, the text goes on to describe how He did it:

    2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

    3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

    6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

    Out of nowhere we have water. We never see anything about it being created. It’s just there as a result of the opening statement and it is “deep.” The Hebrew word “heaven” is shamyim. The word for water is, mayim. Thus it would appear that water and heaven have some sort of connection to one another right from the start. After the creation of “light” as day and the declaration that “dark” is night, a “firmament” appears to separate the mayim waters above from the mayim waters below. The word for “firmament” is raqia. This is where things start to get interesting. Note how Brown-Drive-Briggs defines it:

    There is a principle of Biblical hermeneutics known as the “Law of First Mention” (or some derivation of that), which states that you look at how a word or concept is first introduced and then consider how it is understood and used elsewhere in light of that first use. The website, biblicalresearch.info describes this law as follows:

    The fourth rule of interpretation is THE LAW OF FIRST MENTION.

    The meaning of the law of First Mention: The Law of First Mention may be said to be the principle that requires one to go to that portion of the Scriptures where a doctrine is mentioned for the first time and to study the first occurrence of the same in order to get the fundamental inherent meaning of that doctrine.

    When this law is applied the simple precedes the complex.

    A history of the development of anything will show that it sprang from something in the very simplest form (for example the steamship; airplane; automobile)
    In the Scriptures the growth and development of ideas and doctrine might be illustrated by some simple word.
    Throughout the history of a term it may have increased its meaning and undergone certain changes, yet the basic, original, fundamental thought is seldom lost.
    The fundamental concept usually controls or is dominant in coloring every shade of idea expressed by a term in its current usage
    Source: http://www.biblicalresearch.info/page48.html

    II. The Meaning Of The Law Of First Mention
    The law of first mention may be said to be the principle that requires one to go to that portion of the Scriptures where a doctrine is mentioned for the first time and to study the first occurrence of the same in order to get the fundamental inherent meaning of that doctrine. When we thus see the first appearance, which is usually in the simplest form, we can then examine the doctrine in other portions of the Word that were given later. We shall see that the fundamental concept in the first occurrence remains dominant as a rule, and colors all later additions to that doctrine. In view of this fact, it becomes imperative that we understand the law of first mention.

    Source: http://www.biblicalresearch.info/page56.html

    With this in mind, in Genesis 1, we have a description of something that would become the sky overhead. But Genesis is not the first Holy Spirit inspired book of Scripture. Job is. Therefore, regarding the sky, let’s consider how the oldest book of the Bible describes it:

    Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

    If Job is in fact the oldest book, then Genesis doesn’t establish the law of first mention, Job does. Either way, you end up with the same conclusion, backed by the two “beginning” books of the Bible. Genesis begins the Torah, which is the foundation of our whole Bible. Job, being the oldest written text in the Bible fully supports what we see in Genesis. But in Job, we see that the sky is spread out like a molten looking glass, or as other translations render it a cast metal (bronze) mirror:

  45. #138 by Anonymous on December 6, 2016 - 9:14 pm

    This is war against Bible and Jesus. NASA is devil organization and liars..

  46. #139 by Anonymous on December 7, 2016 - 6:50 am

    Flight paths on a globe model defy logic. If you will note that airline routes were all bound by the Chicago Convention of 1944. This dictated how Airlines must operate everywhere. around the world. Nearly all the countries signed the agreements to abide by the Chicago Convention.

    This the reason, similar to the Antarctic Treaty of 1959, that certain routes are off limits

    • #140 by Joe Imbriano on December 10, 2016 - 9:30 am

      Agreed and certain routes simply do not exist ie, over the so-called south pole. Try booking that one.

  47. #141 by Anonymous on December 7, 2016 - 12:11 pm

    Operation Fishbowl was a series of high altitude nuclear tests in 1962 that were carried out by the United States as a part of the larger Operation Dominic nuclear test program. They were trying to break through the firmament.

  48. #142 by Anonymous on December 11, 2016 - 6:55 am

    Only a fool would believe that water stays on a spinning ball. It is laughable but the conditioning is so thorough that it is almost impossible to have people break free from.

  49. #143 by Dead men tell no tales on January 3, 2017 - 4:21 pm

    NASA has NEVER been audited. NSA and CIA draw massive amounts of unaccounted cash for their black budgets.

  50. #144 by Anonymous on January 9, 2017 - 10:21 pm

    The flat Earth community know that CIA operatives have infiltrated the discussion and that there are all sorts of psy-op shenanigans going on like the article above that works to discredit the conversation. The concept that the world in not a globe does indeed mess with your mind but there are many examples that you can observe with your own eyes that must question the globe Earth beginning with, how one can observe objects at distances where they ought to be partially or completely over the horizon. The FE community understands that the bilaterally founded Nazi-American Space Agency (NASA) holds the keys to space so given Virgin Galactic’s technological know-how, why has Sir Richard Branson’s endeavors to take the public into space proven unsuccessful after twelve exhaustive years? Why was a treaty put into place by the U.N. to halt independent public excursions into Antarctica? Why do we teach children what to think rather than HOW to think independently for themselves and why do we still refuse to recognise that these institutions can systematically deceive and lie to us? The biggest question is; who has brought the U.S. to its knees and why is the focus on the neocon manufactured Middle Eastern war when the real war is in our streets and at the heels of our corrupted governments? The end game is already in play and the FE movement is the dark horse that was not supposed to be taken seriously. The FE community recognise that our majority agreed upon world reality is not only disconcerting but the answers we are given are a falsehood so we must ask questions like these and think for ourselves in order to find the correct answers. The above article can only be described as a psy-op in itself, one that HAS to stop the fake world reality conversation from continuing because the PTB know that this topic IS their Achilles heel and it WILL depose those who have the most to lose if proven successful.

    I am not going to waste my time defending the infantile list of examples that make a mockery of the conversation while their video links do no credit to themselves.
    If you’re not interested in the above video because this subject is such a joke then maybe you ought to look toward the flag of the U.N. and the Lucis Trust Library (dedicated to Lucifer whom they worship as the light, the Sun) at the U.N. headquarters in New York. [Link]
    Research Lucis Trust that and tell me we are not about to lose a war that so many are unable to recognise!

    Lastly, you need to educate yourself on how long the war has been going on and how they intend to win.

    • #145 by Anonymous on January 16, 2017 - 10:12 am

      Right you are. Psy op of the largest magnitude. The larger the lie, the more difficult it is to disprove. I have flown all over the world and can never seem to get a straight answer as to why a direct route over the south pole exists. The route from Commercial flights are not allowed to overfly Antartica, for security reasons is what I am told. Seems pretty fishy to me.

  51. #146 by Anonymous on January 11, 2017 - 9:55 am

    This should not be possible on a globe earth http://www.midweek.com/can-see-hawaii-island/

  52. #147 by Anonymous on February 8, 2017 - 9:20 pm

    The creation of the firmament is associated with the placement of some sort of structure according to the Hebrew text in Genesis 1:6. There is no getting around that. Either the Bible is right in its description of a solid structure above the circle of the earth and we are being lied to by NASA or the Bible is wrong and NASA is telling the truth. No one in their right mind would believe Masonic occultists that run NASA over the Bible would they?

  53. #148 by Satellite Engineer Explains Satellites on February 15, 2017 - 9:43 am

  54. #149 by Anonymous on February 18, 2017 - 10:28 am

    Outstanding article. Such fascinating truth hidden in plain view.There is no way we ever went to the moon in those jalopies. Gus Grisson was murdered. Ask his son.

  55. #150 by Occult Meaning of NASA's Exoplanet Discovery on February 24, 2017 - 5:17 pm

  56. #151 by moon landings fake as fuck on February 25, 2017 - 10:19 pm

    Are you serious? An engine with thrust of 10000lbs cut off 12 feet above the surface and it didn’t move any soil off the “loose dust covering the moon”?? (as per Nasa’s own explanation) Go watch mythbusters (the lying duo) flip a cab over and over just parking it 200 feet behind a 747 with engines at full blast. FYI a 747 with engines at full blast displaces 43000 lbs of thrust. So, 4 of these at 200 feet distance, roll a 6000lbs car over and over for a distance of at least 150 feet, yet 10000lbs of thrust DOES NOT displace any DUST of the surface of the moon….for real? Read this out loud and ask yourself if someone else said this to you, would you give them the right to vote?

  57. #152 by Anonymous on February 27, 2017 - 10:22 pm

    I just cannot believe that ANYONE, in 2017, with all the video and research available to us, still believe we live on a globe…It’s insane! Why do ppl have such a hard time admitting they’ve been duped?! It’s nothing personal, we’ve ALL been duped! Get over it people…
    THE EARTH IS FLAT! Period

  58. #154 by Anonymous on March 11, 2017 - 1:02 am

    NASA is a fraud serpernt devil worshipp group of evildoers theives/ Most low level peeps ghave no clue working in cubicle all day studying bullshit. They stole billions for fake projects for many years. It is Hollywood stule fakery/

  59. #155 by Anonymous on April 1, 2017 - 9:45 am

    Wow, I have heard it all now.

  60. #156 by Michael L Patterson on June 3, 2017 - 12:35 pm

    Why would everyone lie about this?

  61. #157 by michael on June 5, 2017 - 11:13 am

    wow. i cant believe people believe this nonsense.

    • #158 by Anonymous on June 6, 2017 - 10:37 am

      I cannot believe that after all these space programs on TV that people believe, that they don’t all just go flying off the so called spinning ball just like the water should.

      • #159 by Anonymous on June 7, 2017 - 2:41 pm

        Gravity is a hard concept to understand if you have such a tiny brain.

  62. #160 by Vegas born on June 5, 2017 - 4:09 pm

    Joe I am sure you are already aware of this but your readers may not. If you dig, you will discover Minecraft is an illuminati satanic mind control video game for children. Note the cubes (Saturn worship) as the base for the entire world. Ever notice the Discovery science center in Santa Ana and that huge BLACK cube there along with the replica of the “Saturn” rocket? Anyways, I mention minecraft simply because the world in minecraft is flat, the ends are surrounded by an ice ring and covered by a dome. Lucifer likes to bury the truth by hiding it in plain view.

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