Why new Mayor Greg Sebourn is such a huge disappointment to many who voted to re-elect him to the Fullerton City Council?
I REPORT, YOU DECIDE-By Barry Levinson
A week ago I posted an article on The Fullerton Informer website entitled “Fullerton Police Chief Dan Hughes — yet another look (Originally posted June 9, 2014; Edited with a few additional comments on January 14, 2015 including new P.S.), by BARRY LEVINSON
https://thefullertoninformer.com/#sthash.xb43kL8z.dpuf
It concerned Fullerton’s Police Chief Dan Hughes.
That post dealt with getting answers to important questions that the chief has been silent on for far too long. Mayor Sebourn immediately removed that shared post and now he has changed his settings to not allow me to post at all on his Facebook page.
I am saddened that questions that he should be demanding Dan Hughes answer are apparently questions that he does not want to be associated with at all. I have been a Fullerton activist for limited government, civil liberties, safety especially for all our children and open and transparent government for the past 5 years. I also endorsed Greg for reelection. Yet despite all this he followed the council majority crowd by attempting to lynch me at an October 2014 council meeting (I believe they call that a piling on penalty in football) without knowing the facts or asking for the city video which proved all alleged misdemeanor charges hoisted against me by our Police Chief Dan Hughes to be completely bogus. However, there has been no public apology or even a simple mea culpa from our new Mayor. It is now way overdue Mayor Sebourn and I will graciously accept it, if you decide to do the right thing.
https://thefullertoninformer.com/the-lynching/
Now as Mayor one of his first pieces of business in this new-year was
to reassert a 30-minute limit for public comments at the front end of
city council meetings.
As someone, who has regularly attended the Fullerton city council meetings for the past 5 years, I can attest that many meetings had public comments lasting much more than 30 minutes. In fact after the Kelly Thomas brutal death by members of the FPD, public comments many times ran one to two hours and beyond. This is one of the few ways the public has the opportunity to ask questions and to attempt to hold all our public officials accountable in a public forum.
It is my understanding that at the start of each new council, the Mayor can set the meeting criteria including the length of each public comment speaker as well as the limit if any for all public comments. Yet instead of speaking out as the public’s representative and stating how important it is to allow the public the ability to speak before council you thought it necessary to ride rough shot over the public and their rights.
Shame on you Mayor Sebourn for setting rules that
will help limit free speech and the exchange of ideas during our
council meetings.
I recently recalled that former Mayor Chaffee seeing a large group of speakers waiting to speak before the council attempted to reduce each person’s time from 3 minutes down to 2 minutes to try to keep the total time within 30 minutes. I also recall that the remaining four council members all voted him down.
Greg Sebourn is the same Mayor who at a recent Fullerton California Republican Assembly meeting lectured about the importance of knowing and supporting the Republican Party platform. I must have missed the part that states it is the Republican Party’s goal to limit our free speech before our elected officials. Mayor you talked the talk at that CRA meeting but you certainly did not practice it at the last Fullerton City Council meeting.
Mayor Sebourn, Conservative Republicans do not limit free speech but rather welcome and celebrate it.
P.S.
I am sure it was not only conservatives that were very unhappy with the Mayor’s need to greatly limit our free speech I hope all of you make your opinions known to Mayor Sebourn at our next council meeting.
Sincerely,
Barry Levinson
#1 by Really? on February 2, 2015 - 12:34 pm
Wiley Drake, the pastor who openly acknowledges praying for Obama’s death and celebrated the murder of an abortion provider, saying it was an answer to a prayer.
Wiley Drake, the pastor who prayed for God to punish Rick Warren for delivering the invocation at Obama’s inauguration.
Wiley Drake, the pastor who has prayed for the deaths of pretty much any person or group that holds beliefs other than his own.
What a fine, fine man of God.
Joe, tell us, Do you espouse this idea of praying for the death of those who hold beliefs you deem to be sinful? Should be a simple yes or no answer.
#2 by Ban the Bible and let the cops kill people on February 2, 2015 - 12:53 pm
Destroy thou them, O God; let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions; for they have rebelled against thee. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 7:6 Arise, O LORD, in thine anger , lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: and awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 28:4 Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert.
Psalms 35:1 Plead my cause, O LORD, with them that strive with me: fight against them that fight against me. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 35:4-6 [35:4] Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt. [35:5] Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them . [35:6] Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them . (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 35:8 Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hath hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 54:5 He shall reward evil unto mine enemies: cut them off in thy truth . (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
Psalms 56:7 Shall they escape thine iniquity? In thine anger cast down the people O God. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 58:6-8 [58:6] Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD. [58:7] Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces. [58:8] As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 59:5 Thou therefore, O LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel, awake to visit all the heathen: be not merciful to any wicked transgressors . Selah. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 59:11-13 [59:11] Slay them not, lest my people forget: scatter them by thy power ; and bring them down, O Lord our shield. [59:12] For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride : and for cursing and lying which they speak. [59:13} Consume them in wrath , consume them, that they may not be: and let them know that God ruleth in Jacob unto the ends of the earth. Selah.
Psalms 69:22-24, 28 [69:22] Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. [69:23] Let their eyes be darkened , that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake. [69:24] Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them. [69:28] Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous . (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 83:9-18 [83:9] Do unto them as unto the Midianites ; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: [83:10] Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. [83:11] Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb : yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: [83:12] Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. [83:13] O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. [83:14] As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; [83:15] So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm . [83:16] Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. [83:17] Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish : [83:18] That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
Psalms 109:1-31 [109:1] Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise; [109:2] For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
[109:3] They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause. [109:4] For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer. [109:5] And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love. [109:6] Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. [109:7] When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. [109:8] Let his days be few; and let another take his office. [109:9] Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
[109:10] Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. [109:11] Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour. [109:12] Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children. [109:13] Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. [109:14] Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. [109:15] Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. [109:16] Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
See above [109:17] As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. [109:18] As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. [109:19] Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. [109:20] Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul. [109:21] But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name’s sake: because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me. [109:22] For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me. [109:23] I am gone like the shadow when it declineth: I am tossed up and down as the locust. [109:24] My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth of fatness.
See above [109:25] I became also a reproach unto them: when they looked upon me they shaked their heads. [109:26] Help me, O LORD my God: O save me according to thy mercy: [109:27] That they may know that this is thy hand; that thou, LORD, hast done it. [109:28] Let them curse, but bless thou: when they arise, let them be ashamed; but let thy servant rejoice. [109:29] Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame, and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle. [109:30] I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth; yea, I will praise him among the multitude. [109:31] For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor, to save him from those that condemn his soul. (David prays against his enemies.)
Psalms 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more . Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.
Psalms 109:6-20 [109:6] Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. [109:7] When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. [109:8] Let his days be few; and let another take his office. [109:9] Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. [109:10] Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. [109:11] Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour. [109:12] Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children. [109:13] Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. [109:14] Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. [109:15] Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. [109:16] Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
109:17] As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. [109:18] As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. [109:19] Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. [109:20] Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul. (David prays against his enemies)
Psalms 140:9-10 [140:9] As for the head of those that compass me about, let the mischief of their own lips cover them. [140:10] Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again .
Psalms 141:10 Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.
#3 by round up on February 2, 2015 - 1:01 pm
Guess you better round up all the pastors and rabbis and call the Feds because all the churches and synagogues all have the Psalms on their premises as part of their liturgy or cannon. Don’t forget about the one hundred thousand copies of this in print in Fullerton homes.
#4 by round up on February 2, 2015 - 1:07 pm
Calvary Chapel – Map
112 E Walnut Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Calvary Chapel – Map
1507 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Calvary Christian Center – Map
1309 W Valencia Dr Ste A
Fullerton, CA 92833
Calvary Community Church – Map
1465 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Centerpoint Foursquare Church – Map
412 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Central Korean Church – Map
706 S Lemon St
Fullerton, CA 92832
Christ Reformed Church United Reformed – Map
1700 Baronet Pl
Fullerton, CA 92833
Christian Life Center – Map
404 W Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Church of Christ Sunny Hills Fullerton – Map
2255 N Euclid St
Fullerton, CA 92835
Congregational Church of Fullerton – Map
845 N Euclid St
Fullerton, CA 92832
Cornerstone Christian Fellowship – Map
1465 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Crossroad Church – Map
1601 W Malvern Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Dongshin Presbyterian Church – Map
2121 E Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Eastside Christian Church – Map
2505 Yorba Linda Blvd
Fullerton, CA 92831
el Buen Pastor – Map
704 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Emanuel Baptist Church – Map
601 E Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92832
Emmanuel E Y C – Map
1145 W Valencia Mesa Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Emmanuel Episcopal Church – Map
1145 W Valencia Mesa Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Emmanuel Outreach Temple Incorporated – Map
1335 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Epic Church – Map
427 Imperial Hwy
Fullerton, CA 92835
Ethiopian Christian Church – Map
2545 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Faith Deliverance Apostolic Church – Map
3800 W Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Faith Deliverance Apostolic Church – Map
3802 W Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Faith Korean Church – Map
2251 Yuma Way
Fullerton, CA 92835
First Baptist Church of Fullerton – Map
212 E Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
First Christian Church of Fullerton – Map
109 E Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
First Church of Christ Scientist – Map
1300 N Raymond Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
First Church of Religious Scicence Fullerton – Map
117 N Pomona Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
First Evangelical Freee Church of Fullerton – Map
2801 Brea Blvd
Fullerton, CA 92835
First Lutheran Church of Fullerton – Map
215 N Lemon St
Fullerton, CA 92832
First Presbyterian Church of Fullerton – Map
838 N Euclid St
Fullerton, CA 92832
Flyingdoc – Map
1954 Lexington Dr
Fullerton, CA 92835
Fullerton Church of Christ – Map
2475 E Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Fullerton First United Methodist Church – Map
114 N Pomona Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Fullerton Presbyterian Church – Map
511 S Brookhurst Rd
Fullerton, CA 92833
Fullerton Presbyterian Church – Map
1815 W West Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Glass Creek Incorporated – Map
2454 Fender Ave Ste B
Fullerton, CA 92831
Grace Bible Chapel – Map
1119 S Lambert Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Grace Korean Church – Map
1645 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Grace River Korean United Methodist Church – Map
2351 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Great Light Zoeun Church – Map
2001 N State College Blvd
Fullerton, CA 92831
Haase Sandy C S – Map
Fullerton, CA 92831
Hanmaum Presbyterian Church – Map
3125 Laurel Ave
Fullerton, CA 92835
Hungarian Christian Church – Map
235 Magnolia Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Iglesia Cristo Viene – Map
1125 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Iglesia de Dios Pentecostal – Map
515 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92832
Isaac Christian Church – Map
115 E Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Jesus Grace Church – Map
656 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Jung Eum Korean Church – Map
1465 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witness – Map
121 N Gilbert St
Fullerton, CA 92833
Korean Evangelical Mission for Hispanic – Map
2148 Seaview Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Korean Methodist Church In Philadelphia of So Calif – Map
214 N Highland Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Living Streams Fellowship – Map
690 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Majesty International Center – Map
417 S Richman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Majesty International Center – Map
431 S Richman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Morningside Presbyterian Church – Map
1201 Dorothy Ln
Fullerton, CA 92831
Mount of Calvary Ndcc – Map
638 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
New Covenant Church – Map
2311 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
New Life Mission Church – Map
112 E Walnut Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
New Wine Church – Map
1425 S Brookhurst Rd
Fullerton, CA 92833
Open Door Church – Map
620 S Roosevelt Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Orange Korean Christian Reformed Church – Map
643 Malvern Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Orange Presbyterian Church – Map
704 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
Orangethorpe Christian Church of Fullerton Disciples of Christ – Map
2200 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Orangethorpe United Methodist – Map
2351 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Praise Chapel – Map
2316 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Praise Chapel Christian Fellowship – Map
204 E Amerige Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Praise Chapel of Buena Park – Map
4121 Artesia Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Self Realization Fellowship – Map
142 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Seventh Day Adventist Churches – Map
2353 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Seventh Day Adventist Churches – Map
2355 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Son Rise Christian Fellowship – Map
808 W Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Squifarers Community Vineyard Christian Fellowship – Map
406 E Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
St Andrews Episcopal Church – Map
1231 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
St John Maron Church – Map
601 N Woods Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
St Juliana Falconieri – Map
1316 N Acacia Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
St Lukes Lutheran Church Elca – Map
2000 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
St Paul Lutheran Church – Map
111 W Las Palmas Dr
Fullerton, CA 92835
St Philip Benizi Church – Map
235 S Pine Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
St Stephens Pre School – Map
2311 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints – Map
2225 N Euclid St
Fullerton, CA 92835
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints – Map
2850 N State College Blvd
Fullerton, CA 92835
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints – Map
801 N Raymond Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints – Map
444 E Chapman Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
The Rock – Map
101 E Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
The United Presbytery In USA – Map
1645 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Transchurch Research – Map
1309 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
True Love Lutheran Church – Map
1521 W Orangethorpe Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
Unitarian Universalist Church of Fullerton – Map
1600 N Acacia Ave
Fullerton, CA 92831
United Pentecostal Church Fullerton – Map
1201 W Commonwealth Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
West Fullerton Baptist Church – Map
3635 W Valencia Dr
Fullerton, CA 92833
Wilshire Avenue Community Church – Map
212 E Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA 92832
Young Nac Church – Map
1601 W Malvern Ave
Fullerton, CA 92833
#5 by Anonymous on February 2, 2015 - 5:26 am
the shedding of innocent blood
#6 by Really? on February 2, 2015 - 1:39 pm
all I asked for was a simple yes or no answer, not quotes from the Bible on what David does.
Do YOU pray for the death of any person or group that holds beliefs that YOU feel go against the Bible’s teachings? Yes or no?
Do YOU pray for the death of gay people? Do YOU pray for the death of “Pro Choice” advocates?
If YOU suddenly found out that Kelly Thomas was a raging homosexual, would you feel differently about how he died? Not at all saying that Kelly was gay, but it sure is an interesting hypothetical for radicals like yourselves who believe sinners should die horrible deaths.
#7 by Anonymous on February 2, 2015 - 2:02 pm
The only people dying horrible deaths that I know of at the hands of another are the ones who are unfortunate enough to be in Fullerton police custody. Stop trying to maneuver Joe.
#8 by Know your rights! on February 2, 2015 - 2:08 pm
Perhaps it should be clarified for you, Joe is evangelical. Here is a definition for you:
Evangelical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evangelical?s=t)
Also, evangelic. pertaining to or in keeping with the gospel and its teachings.
2.
belonging to or designating the Christian churches that emphasize the teachings and authority of the Scriptures, especially of the New Testament, in opposition to the institutional authority of the church itself, and that stress as paramount the tenet that salvation is achieved by personal conversion to faith in the atonement of Christ.
3.
designating Christians, especially of the late 1970s, eschewing the designation of fundamentalist but holding to a conservative interpretation of the Bible.
4.
pertaining to certain movements in the Protestant churches in the 18th and 19th centuries that stressed the importance of personal experience of guilt for sin, and of reconciliation to God through Christ.
5.
marked by ardent or zealous enthusiasm for a cause.
So, while you appear to be going off your rails, attacking Joe for believing and expressing the word of God, keep in mind that everyone has freedom of religion. What is important is that we tolerate one another. The concept of evagelism must be new and foreign to you. Even so, leave other people alone and stop attacking others, putting words in their mouths. Maybe your issue is with the Psalms? Maybe you should take that up with its’ author.
Perhaps you should look inward to begin to understand and overcome your intolerance of the Christian religion.
If you are unable to overcome your intolerance of Christianity and the Psalms you would probably be more suited to another blog, as Joe regularly invokes the word and teachings of God and I don’t believe that he will stop.
#9 by Really? on February 2, 2015 - 2:50 pm
Not asking anybody to stop anything or for clarification on the type of Christian Joe is or isn’t. I’m just asking for a yes or no answer to a pretty direct question on whether he prays for the death of people who are perceived to go against the Bible’s teaching. Has nothing to do with what the FPD does or what other churches are doing.
#10 by Anonymous on February 2, 2015 - 4:22 pm
You care only about maneuvering Mr. Imbriano through innuendo, flat out lies and distractions. Perhaps you should go work for the Register or the Observer.
The issue on this article is about Fullerton’s mayor.