Troy’s gifted students speak on wireless part 2

Joe Imbriano

What happened to the post on the PTSA and the wireless issue at Troy?

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Joe Imbriano I am a parent and a PTSA member and this is probably the biggest deal that will ever face these students at this school and impact their futures. What is with the censorship? Why not allow for an open and free debate on this issue in the interest of applying critical thinking skills.

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Nicholas Lee Did you not read your own comments? Every single person who saw it felt that it was really really really dumb, so I guess someone took it down.

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Kyle Golden One of the four admins deleted it.

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Sree Kariyadan sorry, a correlation was shown between exposure to your articles and a rise in cancer and infertility in readers. It was probably from the Evil Magic ™ waves or the dumbness just affected everyone’s health

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Jerry Shu I for one hate censoring too, everytime a good shitpost come around, it always gets removed before I can immortalize it completely in screenshots unsure emoticon

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Joe Imbriano Jerry they are immortalized right here pal-scroll to the bottom past all of the decades of science and legal mumbo jumbo, appeals to the UN , and the resolution from The CMAhttps://thefullertoninformer.com/formal-demand-to-the…/

Formal demand to the Troy PTSA on wireless

This will be the 3rd communication to this…

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Jerry Shu i was talking about the comments lol

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Jerry Shu wait jk

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Joe Imbriano They are there at the bottom

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Jerry Shu THEY’RE THERE

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Jerry Shu JOE YOU’RE A LEGEND

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Joe Imbriano Jerry Shu thanks bro

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Jerry Shu you can’t see replies though frown emoticon

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Joe Imbriano Jerry tell all your fellow students to comment on the blog article and the comments downt get erased. No censoring takes place on the website.

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Jerry Shu nice try guy not giving the website more hits

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Joe Imbriano Jerry Shu it gets plenty on its own. You guys up for an honest and open debate on this issue, you know dealing with facts not shooting from the hip kind of stuff?

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John Ho I know for a fact wifi has seriously impacted my midichlorian count.

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Joe Imbriano So where are the parents and the teachers on this issue? Why are they trotting all you students off to play games and ignoring all of this? Fair questions.

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John Ho I haven’t attended Troy for 20 years…but I know if the wifi from Troy keeps on disrupting my midichlorian count that in short order I will lose the ability to touch the Force, Joe.

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Joe Imbriano John Ho too many video games for you pal

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John Ho Joe Imbriano It’s the wifi. Disrupting my midichlorians bro.

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Joachim Jang Joe Imbriano, if you are confused about the abundance of alumni and current students of Troy (relative to parents and teachers) on a Facebook group self-described as “Open to all alumni or current students of Troy High School in Fullerton, California,” I’m afraid you have made a wrong turn along the way.

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Joe Imbriano Joachim Jang The demand was sent to the administration, the board and the PTSA-only responses are from students?

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Patrick Oh maybe because your problems are too insignificant for them to deal with?

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Joe Imbriano Patrick Oh these are the problems of the Troy student body and staff, not Mr Imbriano.

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Joachim Jang I hope you can understand that discourse within a public forum is far easier to set in motion than an official statement from within the ranks of a bureaucratic organization.

With that said, I can hazard to say that the administration, board, and PTSA have much better things to do with their time – after all, it’s safe to say that the majority of us students and alumni are participating in this just for the roast fest.

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Joe Imbriano There are no staff, PTSA or administration participating in this roast fest, just you kids. Where are they?

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Baunnee Martinez not on Facebook that’s for sure

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John Ho My preliminary studies indicate wifi midichlorian disruption affects parents and teachers 3.4042 times as much as the average high school junior. Perhaps cognitive difficulties, a byproduct of midichlorian disruption, would explain their lack of engagement on such a vital issue. Wifi causes midichlorian disruption which prevents those in charge from fixing said wifi which causes even more cognitive difficulties and on and on it goes. It’s an absolutely vicious cycle.

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Benjamin McCann Joe, your cause is ridiculous, your source data shaky. Your proposal would completely disrupt the program because you believe that the students are being irradiated at school. What about at home? Or at starbucks? A bunch of cars come with wifi now, are you railing at them? Please take your pseudoscience and choke on it. There are many causes that need champions. Wifi irradiation is not one of them, especially at one of the few high schools that you can still get a decent education at.

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Amy Ting Joe Imbriano Someone else has said this before, but this group is for Troy ALUMNI and CURRENT STUDENTS. You wouldn’t find the Troy parents and teachers you so desire to dispute with.

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Joe Imbriano Amy Ting But Amy this issue is about the students

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Jerry Shu I AM A TROY PARENT AND PTSA MEMBER ʘ‿ʘ

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Amy Ting Joe Imbriano Yes, but you keep complaining that the parents and teachers aren’t responding.
We’re not (necessarily) defending on behalf of teachers and parents, we’re the only voice available because you seem to fail to realize the audience you are presenting to. The parents and teachers you look for are not here.

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Patrick Oh Guessing from your posts and your constant attacks at Troy, I’m going to guess that you and/or your child came to Troy and left as failures (perhaps it’s your family heritage/tradition). Now, you are sitting at home, no legitimate job, drunk, doing tons of drugs, and have nothing better to do than to argue with high school kids on the internet. Go get a life. If not, you are proof that either God or billions of years of evolution have failed.

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Laura Hu Well, now that I finished finals and have a bit of free time…. I’m trying super hard not to be vulgar but honestly this pisses me off.
At this point I’m inclined to think that Joe is just a really huge troll, but unfortunately, years of Facebook posts seem to preclude my theory.What kind of “open and free debate” are you looking for? As far as I could read from the last post, there was no debate or discussion on the issue; you didn’t even bother trying to understand what others were saying. You keep saying “look at the science, not at me”, but quite frankly all I see is pseudo science and anecdotes. You keep referring to the papers written by people from prestigious colleges, but honestly? In my experience, people at Ivies and other colleges of similar caliber (Cal, MIT, etc) can be pretty damn ignorant too.But the thing that bothers me the most is that you have the audacity to attack not only us as students, but also our teachers who work their asses off to provide us with an education like no other. I resent that you portray these teachers as “brainwashers”, that you seem to think that we are “brainwashed” when we don’t agree with you… when our teachers have done everything they can to provide us with literature of all kinds and allowed us to form our opinions. I’ve never been force fed political/religious propaganda by my teachers, but I sure as hell am seeing a lot of propaganda from you. If this isn’t the definition of critical thinking, then I’d like to tell you to tell me what is. What’s your definition of critical thinking, Joe? For us to acknowledge your conspiracy theories as facts, and for us to unquestioningly accept your futile appeal to authority? News flash: simply believing differently from the mainstream isn’t “critical thinking”. Did you even try to understand articles that disagreed with you or did you ignore them in the infantile “You don’t agree with me so I’m not listening” way?

It seems as if you have a personal vendetta against Troy. Why? Because Oracle didn’t publish your poorly written piece in a student publication? Because we err on the side of politically liberal? Perhaps… because your child didn’t do as well as you hoped, academically, here? Regarding your “grade ripoff page”: We are hardly the only high school with grade deflation (which, by the way, doesn’t hurt our college admission chances nearly as much as you seem to think since the adcoms look at you in relation to the rest of your school), and AFAIK, no one had an addy problem while I was there. Was I sleep deprived? Probably. But given the chance, I’d do it all over again because I don’t think I’d have learned so much in 4 years anywhere else, and I definitely wouldn’t have had as caring teachers elsewhere. Sleep deprivation was my choice, not one forced on me by my teachers. If anything, our teachers and counselors constantly encouraged us to take less classes for the sake of personal health. Maybe our stress culture is a problem that should be acknowledged, but to blame it on our teachers and the grading system is short sighted and ridiculous. You don’t even try to understand our culture, our motivations, our teachers’ actions, yet you portray yourself as an authority on them and criticize them. What makes you think you are entitled to a discussion with us on how to shape our community that you haven’t even tried to understand beyond what fits your twisted narrative?

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Joe Imbriano You are defending the staff and they cannot even defend themselves? Did you read the source documents in the demand letter?

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Laura Hu so like is your end goal to provoke them into responding so you can get them fired or something

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Laura Hu that’s nice.

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Laura Hu like emoticon

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Joe Imbriano Laura-perhaps you should contact this person at Columbia on the wireless issue-his work is cited in the source documents-he is light years ahead of you in terms of his education-http://www.physiology.columbia.edu/MartinBlank.html

Martin Blank, Ph.D.

MARTIN BLANK earned PhDs in physical chemistry (1957) from Columbia University…

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Joe Imbriano perhaps in stead of a starbucks trip, you could spring for his book on WiFi and emf dangershttp://www.amazon.com/Overpowered-Dangers…/dp/1609805097

Overpowered: The Dangers of Electromagnetic Radiation (EMF)…

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Patrick Oh Joe Imbriano
My 2nd Point.
Lets say you’re a kid (students/alumni) at home and you parents (admin) are out. A burglar tries to vandalize your home. Would you not try to defend it? Secondly, your parents are our, they have no way of defending it. So can you stop with the BS about why we are defending Troy and why admin isn’t

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Joe Imbriano Patrick Oh I am not a burglar and as a matter of fact, the PTSA is breaking in and bringing in an intruder-forced microwave exposure. Your school has been doing just fine with textbooks and wired computers

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Jerry Shu Laura you’re awesome

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Kevin Wang Joe, the guy you quote as your source earned his phD in 1957…he would be roughly 33 at that time which means he’s around 91 years old. Now I don’t want to be condoning ageism, but you should keep in mind that this guy has retired for a reason…

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Joe Imbriano Jerry Shu Laura go ahead and speak with Dr Martin Blank at Columbia about the dangers of wireless. That is the school you attend as an undergrad correct? He has a PHD. I dont

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Kevin Wang Joe, she can’t do that because he’s retired.. -.-

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Jerry Shu Joe based on your history, you are a huge proponent of free individual thought and anti brainwazhing, so then why would you ask for our teachers and staff to speak on our behalf? Should we not speak out with our own mouths?

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Joe Imbriano Kevin Wang he is not dead

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Laura Hu tbh i’ve said all i wanted to, i’m not particularly concerned about the dangers of wifi since i’ve resigned myself to an early death by wifi as a cs major. i’m more concerned about the fact that someone wants to slander my school and teachers without basis ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Joe Imbriano Jerry Shu You can speak all you want but the staff and PTSA are making health decisions for the students with this issue.

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Jerry Shu And we can make the decisions to accept these necessary risks for the improvement of society and technology. Fossil fuel consumption is much worse than wifi, and it is a necessary evil that we needed for the industrial revolution to occur

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Kevin Wang Joe, you make very good points and I concede. However, I don’t think you’ll be able to convince the others. Maybe it’s time to take action into our own hands? How about we band together to form a neo-Luddite group and run around the country smashing modems?

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Nicholas Lee All you have to know Joe, is that you posted your opinion, and most of us are adamantly against you. And your outdated “wired” plan. It’s that simple. You wanted critical thinking. Here it: We don’t agree with you at all. Okay?

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Joe Imbriano these are not my assertions pal-these are the assertions of experts-I am just a concerned parent. There isn’t one sentence in the demand letter that has to do with Mr. Imbriano’s concerns, only with experts

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Jerry Shu ok

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Joachim Jang

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Nicholas Lee Also, apparently, the wireless issue is the biggest issue we will ever face as Troy students, overshadowing, oh, I don’t know, colleges, future occupations, future careers, any tests, projects, or presentations, etc. Ya……. We have more important things to deal with.

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Joe Imbriano Nick without your health you have nothing.

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Diane King Joe Imbriano “In 2011, I was on top of the world. Healthy, happy and active with a successful career in Silicon Valley that provided ample time for my wife, who is a medical doctor, and I to travel and pursue our many interests. As a civil engineer and…See More

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John Ho Diane King The overwhelming scientific data on this phenomenon is that it is psychological in nature. In blind studies, those with symptoms can not differentiate true exposure from placebos.

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Diane King John Ho John, please look further as there exists a growing population of people that are becoming ill from this, so much so, that they cannot tolerate being around the wireless. On the other side are interests that do not want to acknowledge that EHS, ES, microwave sickness exists. Other countries such as Sweden recognize this as a functional impairment and various countries are beginning to recognize this as a disability. http://www.es-uk.info/info/sweden.html The Austrian Medical Association has published a report for diagnosing & treating EHS:http://www.magdahavas.com/austrian-medical-association…/

ElectroSensitivity UK – EHS in Sweden

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John Ho It’s irrelevant how many people are becoming ill from this. If they can not distinguish between a real electromagnetic (or whatever they’re claiming as a cause) field or a placebo then the disorder is psychological in nature. It’s common sense.

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Diane King For those of you willing to, please take a look at the sources, science, Appeal to the U.N. and World Health Organization, and multitude of experts. Additionally, please consider that the science is now reflected in our growing rates of disease, cancer, Alzheimers, Autism, . . . The lawsuits are commencing and they are big lawsuits. The Harvard Ethics publication, Captured Agency, is just one of many publications that may answer your questions as to how we can have wireless all around us if it was not ok. For those that value their health, the health of others, and even the health of other living creatures, I believe you will find this journey, beyond the implied safety of wireless, of great value. As always, for those of you who do not believe this, you need do nothing. Be well.

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Stanley Yoo sigh they’re banding together

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Diane King Resonance, Beings of Frequency https://vimeo.com/54189727

RESONANCE – BEINGS OF FREQUENCY

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung if you’re so concerned about EM radiation Mr. Imbriano why don’t you also plan to get rid of radios, microwaves, white light lamps, etc. Here just get rid of the Sun too that would surely solve your problem wouldnt it

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Jerry Shu Diane how about instead of ignoring everything anyone says and spamming your sources, you just post the entire document that you’re copy pasting from all at once so we don’t have to hear your garbage?

At least joe partially reads the comments and responds relevantly (albeit still twistedly)

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Kevin Nguyen http://www.forbes.com/…/the-science-of-wi-fi-and…/ i mean, I guess pickled vegetables are carcinogens too

Why Scientists Say Wi-Fi Signals Won’t Give Your Kids Cancer

Last week, several media outlets including Forbes.com

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Richard Park so at this rate everyone’s going to get cancer

nice

much logic

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Nicholas Lee And today, we have Joe and Diane vs the rest of Troy High School

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Diane King I guess you could express it as Joe and Diane presenting information from researchers that you might want to consider.

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Amy Ting Presenting outdated* information.

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Patrick Oh Did you know jet fuel can’t melt steal beams Joe Imbriano?

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Stanley Yoo no pls
we have enough senseless debates rn

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Kevin Nguyen Joe, I guess you should stop using pickled veggies, Styrofoam cups, and coffee in your lifestyle now

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Joe Imbriano not just pickles palhttps://en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_IARC_Group_2B…

List of IARC Group 2B carcinogens – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Substances, mixtures and exposure circumstances in this list have been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as Group 2B: The agent (mixture) is possibly carcinogenic to humans. The exposure circumstance entails exposures that are possibly carcinogenic to humans. This…

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Joe Imbriano sure lets bring these into your class at Troy and see what the staff does

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Jerry Shu Joe can you send us a picture of you so we can make you into a reusable meme template, or should we just attribute your identity with Nikolai Tesla?

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Joe Imbriano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4LjZ5OIIqA

Autism and infertility caused by wireless emissions

Joe Imbriano on wireless exposure

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Patrick Oh Are you trying to tell me my computer has autism and infertility?

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Joe Imbriano Patrick Oh no that your kids will if you can even have any someday

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Joe Imbriano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMN-yS5c-I

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Chris Lee Sims We’ve got another moon-landing-hoax, atheism-loving, sheeple-hating conspiracy theroist here everyone, one that thinks that The Man is out to get us all. I’ve seen these same techniques of manipulation, argument, and slander from a family member of mine back in the day.

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Laura Hu can the admin just remove joe and diane from this group? they’re clearly not alumni or current students and they’re just provocateurs

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Chris Lee Sims What’s next, vaccines cause autism? The ISS is fake? 9/11 was an inside job?

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John Ho Sorry Joe….your reasoning is what is commonly referred to as broscience.

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Richard Park this is saying vaccination causes autism

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Koichi Takara People… Who cares what two people say about WiFi causing cancer? That Joe dude and the other person is probably using it right now, and if they are right, then we all die that’s it. It’s not like only Troy students die because of out awesome public WiFi alright? This is not a place to argue about if it causes cancer. That’s like arguing how to stop cancer. That’s not our job. Yet. Please, if you wanna stop WiFi, don’t start from one of the most technologically advanced highschool in SoCal

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Kyle Golden i think the entire argument was invalidated when you said high powered industrial routers. pls the only place the wifi is actually usable is in the quad haha

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung and the only cancer we can get from the WiFi is the fact that its so slow

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Koichi Takara Also in some parts of 500, and 400 building but that’s still not much lol

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Joe Imbriano Koichi Takara https://thefullertoninformer.com/apple-666-project…/

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung wow way to improve your rational arguments with some conspiracy propaganda

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Koichi Takara Lemme counter attack with my conspiracies

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Koichi Takara Lol

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Kyle Golden You say all this but what will this really change? You want them to get rid of wireless things at our school? You realize, even after that’s gone, the very little amount of it, we will all still bring our phones to school every single day right? So I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish when you link articles that talk about how bad phones are. Even if for some odd reason, the school were to disable the “industrial routers” you understand that we would all still be connected to our various carriers? You know that WiFi and cell signals are both types of radio waves right? So why would WiFi hurt us if cell signals don’t? Clearly you disregard how much energy each holds considering you ignored my proof that visible light holds more energy than these deadly WiFi waves. So why are you not demanding the wireless carriers disable their service? Joe Imbriano

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Joe Imbriano Leo BreadedChicken Yeung no conspiracy-look at the article-the joke is on you kids not me

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Koichi Takara Mr Joe Imbriano, if the name of the article starts with Apple 666, of course that’s a conspiracy. And yes, we Troy students read articles from now becoming untrustworthy Fullerton informer.

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Jerry Shu APPLE 666 JOE YOU ARE PRECIOUS

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Jerry Shu Be well my friend

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Joe Imbriano Kyle Golden I read your comments and I am very familar with ionization engergy and the like. I have a degree in Chemistry. Microwaves do many things Kyle. The source documents refer to the “non thermal” effects that the industry denies the existence of. I am in this to protect students not for any other reason

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Koichi Takara What specific chemistry Mr Joe Imbriano?

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Jerry Shu Chemistry of DEEZ NUTS

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Joe Imbriano Koichi Takara uci class of 89

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Joe Imbriano Jerry Shu deez nuts 4 president

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Kyle Golden I believe he meant what type of Chemistry.

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Joe Imbriano Kyle Golden It is a bachelor of science in “Chemistry”

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Joe Imbriano I also have a bachelor of science in Biological Science from UCI but this is not about me, it is about the source documents from the scientists set forth in the demand letter.

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung lame

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung still lame

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Koichi Takara I just checked the class of 1989, and there is no such degree as “chemistry”

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Joe Imbriano Koichi Takara sure u did

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Koichi Takara Actually there is lol

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Koichi Takara Sorry u won on that ome

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Koichi Takara One

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Koichi Takara Looked at a wrong page

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Koichi Takara But, Mr Joe Imbriano, this IS about you

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Joe Imbriano Koichi Takara no but you think I am full of it so I just wanted to let u know that I even have the ability to go back in time and make up newpaper articles-but i was your age once

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Nicholas Lee These comments are better than the class of 2018 teacher boycott post. Quick, someone immortalize these with screen shots.

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung immortalized like the rosetta stone my friend

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Soham Patel I feel as if these people had genuine arguments they would stop linking people to their own articles. If you have confidence in your case, link us to articles from major news sources that people frequent to show us even the major corporations think this

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Kyle Golden Plot Twist: This is all a ploy to get more traffic to his conspiracy ridden site.

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Joe Imbriano read the source documents in the ptsa demand letter-it is all there

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung Kyle Golden good one

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Koichi Takara “Topic”

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung never knew you had 30000 individual computers to login from

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Joe Imbriano Leo BreadedChicken Yeung 30,000 unique visitors

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Koichi Takara No leo he had 60000 but our fantastic cyber patriot team got rid of 30000

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Joe Imbriano as soon as i post this comment thread u will al be famous

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Koichi Takara YES

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Kyle Golden I don’t consider 30,000 people famous. Stanley Yoo Lawrence Yi Richard Park JaSn Momaya wink emoticon

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Joe Imbriano Kyle Golden times 30 and in a month u will be

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Koichi Takara Mr Joe Imbriano, is it okay if I ask you which political candidate you are planning to vote for in presidential election 2016?

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Joe Imbriano Trump guarantees the election of Hilary

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Koichi Takara So you are voting for Mr Trump?

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Michael Chen who’s NOT voting for trump pls guys

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Joe Imbriano Koichi Takara of course not-he is a hack

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Michael Chen My winter break got so much more enlightening thanks to this

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Koichi Takara Mr Joe Imbriano we the REAL Troy students will advise you to leave, unless you want more popcorn and coke to be consumed.

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Leo BreadedChicken Yeung Joe you constantly claim of having scientific evidence from scientists but as of now you are forcing upon us merely a psuedo science, and unless i see a proper thesis of an scientific experiment conducted on this matter, I cannot accept your claims, which are indeed ignorant and invalid by default

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Koichi Takara I will not trust anyone unless they got some Nobels on them lol

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Joe Imbriano Read the source documents in the demand letter. They contain what you need. These are not my claims

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Koichi Takara Well first, I was being sarcastic

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Koichi Takara And second, what are you trying to do

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Zheng Zhu Joe Imbriano you never read what I wrote in response to you and Diane King so why would anyone grace your letter with our attention? I even went so far in it as to cite possible reasons why I might be wrong. Did you read that part at least? I literally gave you an argument to use against me. You haven’t cited that yet so I’m convinced that you didn’t read my post. If you don’t have the decency to even look at what I wrote, while I gave your viewpoint a chance but ultimately rejected it, you have no place asking for an open debate.

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Joe Imbriano repost here and i will respond

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Koichi Takara My goodness

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