Submitted By a Concerned Troy Parent–
Troy High School teachers abruptly close doors to students and make the parents sign off on it.
Are the students caught in the middle of a contract dispute between the teachers’ union and FJUHSD?
This is just one of many forms that came home with the students from Troy teachers yesterday.
Troy teachers are now:
Unavailable for help before or after school
Unavailable for tutoring before or after school
Unavailable to write letters of recommendation for colleges or scholarships
Unavailable for AP testing review before or after class time
Teachers have decided that they will no longer be available to help the student outside of their contracted work hours.
Is the unavailability due to a union contract dispute?
Before break teachers were wearing red to protest the lack of a contract.
Some, many, or all explained to the students, during class time, why they were protesting.
The understanding was that their teaching salaries were not enough. So when it is ever enough? You be the judge. Here is the salary list for the district.
The District’s school year consists of 180 instructional days of 372 minutes each-6.2 hours a day 180 days a year. Mr. Bainter, for example had total compensation of $136, 221 for 2014 and makes $122 per hour in total compensation if you do the math. Guess it is not enough for him or the rest of them for that matter.
Keep in mind that they do not work the whole year and the wages/total compensation are unsustainable: http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/calstrs-teachers-retirement-pension-system-in-deep-trouble/#respond
“Using the State accounting system for pensions, CalSTRS, the teacher retirement plan, had a $8.9 billion increase in liability, bringing it to an admitted unsustainable $67.3 billion. Using Federal pension accounting systems, the real unfunded liability is over $170 billion—and growing. At some point the taxpayers will be forced, by law, to bail out another government failure.”
Teachers want more, but are totally divorced from the fiscal reality.
Teachers want more and will totally turn their backs on the students in order to have their ‘unsustainable’ demands met. Looks like Troy teachers are doing just that.
#1 by DR-J on April 14, 2016 - 4:20 pm
So I guess since I’m a Troy grad and had Mr. Bainter for 1 semester I get to weigh in on this.
First, according to the Districts 2013-2014 pay schedule, no teacher makes more than 110K per year, no matter their education or years of service. Since there hasn’t been a percentage increase in 8 years, that max pay level has been there for that amount of time.
Two, having been in Mr. Bainters class and knowing the way he dresses there’s no way he’s netting more than 100K per year! Love ya MR. B!
Third, Troy teachers aren’t disconnected from reality, they are very much informed. Which is why their students Math Common Core Test scores are 15 percent higher than the next HS in the District (Sunny Hills) in Math and 30-50 percent higher than the rest; La Habra, Sonora, Fullerton and Buena Park. English they are 5 percent above Sunny Hills and 15-30 percent higher than the rest.
Fourth, 8 years for a pay raise is too long. The max anyone should have to suffer no adjustment to pay for cost of living increases is 5 years.
Fifth, Troy teachers are advocating with all the teachers in the District for better wages, so it’s not just the teachers who are at Troy that are disgruntled.
So in response to Joe, who began these posts and included the following, “How dangerous is forcing the lies of evolution, the false religion of science, common core, communism, moral relativism, vaccines and the sterilizing wireless exposure?”
I respond with: It’s just as dangerous as the lies being told about who makes what in the District to politicize the natural bargaining process of compensating teachers as inflation occurs over a period of years. Drumming up support to slam a teacher who is overworked with extra duties by saying he makes more than he really does, is just a bunch of gainsaying and mudslinging in support of a view that is detrimental to teachers.
Also, in response to, “There are only a few things that really matter in this life. One is where you go when you die, another is how long before you do, and finally who and what you leave behind.”
If this is true, then why attack teachers who are instructing the next generation of students when that isn’t one of the things that really matters in this life according to you. Quite literally your original post doesn’t matter according to your own words.
#2 by Reality Is... on April 18, 2016 - 3:47 pm
Perfect response. Joe and Barry won’t like it though and I expect a name calling, general response soon. Your response is similar to my response to them when they bash Fullerton Police and Fire for their recent raises.
#3 by Joe Imbriano on April 18, 2016 - 6:55 pm
Dr j”s response has been here for four days and his input is appreciated as is yours RI. Dr. J missed the entire point of the post and is obviously very enamored with the secular humanist atheistic eugenics model as evidenced by how impressed Dr J is with Common Core test scores while Dr J ignores the cogent points made in the article as they relate to the health and well being of the students, the burden the system places on the taxpayers, and the basic math involved in what is fiscally sustainable. Amazing touting math scores and yet is disconnected from the everyday application of math at the 7th grade level and the first grade commonly held world view’s scientific understanding that money is never found growing on trees.
#4 by Anonymous on April 18, 2016 - 8:55 pm
If anyone understands math and science, it’s obviously you, Joe.
#5 by Joe Imbriano on April 18, 2016 - 10:10 pm
Yes you are correct. It really is basic addition and subtraction. No money no raises. The district’s long term financial outlook is bleak at best. Glad you agree that I understand the math because I do.
It’s basic science-the 75 thousand miles of circulatory system did not get into your body by some random chain of events. Glad you agree that I understand the science because I do.
#6 by Joe Imbriano on April 18, 2016 - 10:11 pm
RI what do you have to say about the wireless in the schools? You claim to have progeny. What say you? https://thefullertoninformer.com/apple-666-project-inkwell-and-agenda-21-an-expose-with-an-all-star-cast/
#7 by Barry Levinson on April 26, 2016 - 11:44 pm
The below statement I made on January 6, 2016 RI was the only comment I have made about this post.
“There are many good and devoted teachers in the teaching profession. They are now being forced to teach in whole or at least in part to the new harmful common core dumbing down standards. Isn’t that an oxymoron, the phrase “common core standards”?
It is clear that normally a teacher’s union contractual demands are primarily about the salaries, benefits and working conditions of its employees, regardless of their potential negative impact on their students with regard to increased class size and/or lack of money for books and supplies, etc. I will never expect that any teachers’ union act in the best interest of their students. However, it would be refreshing and different to see some concern for the students as well as the teachers they represent. It would also be nice to see more good teachers stand up against their unions, when the unions propose various contract items that will not be in the best interest of their students.”
There is no name calling RI. In fact I go out of my way to state that there are many fine public school teachers. I did however state correctly that overwhelmingly the teacher’s union is only concerned about teachers salaries, benefits and working conditions and rarely if ever puts the interests of the children first. This is a true statement. If the teacher’s unions were putting the needs of their children first for example there would not be on average 34 to 35 students in each of the FSD classrooms. I understand that the numbers are just as high if not slightly higher for the FJUHSD as well.