Troy High School teachers abruptly close door to students


Submitted By a Concerned Troy Parent

Troy High School teachers abruptly close doors to students and make the parents sign off on it.

Are the students caught in the middle of a contract dispute between the teachers’ union and FJUHSD?

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This is just one of many forms that came home with the students from Troy teachers yesterday.

Troy teachers are now:

Unavailable for help before or after school

Unavailable for tutoring before or after school

Unavailable to write letters of recommendation for colleges or scholarships

Unavailable for AP testing review before or after class time

Teachers have decided that they will no longer be available to help the student outside of their contracted work hours.

Is the unavailability due to a union contract dispute?

Before break teachers were wearing red to protest the lack of a contract.

Some, many, or all explained to the students, during class time, why they were protesting.

The understanding was that their teaching salaries were not enough. So when it is ever enough? You be the judge. Here is the salary list for the district.

http://http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2014/school-districts/orange/fullerton-joint-union-high/

The District’s school year consists of 180 instructional days of 372 minutes each-6.2 hours a day 180 days a year. Mr. Bainter, for example had total compensation of $136, 221 for 2014 and makes $122 per hour in total compensation if you do the math. Guess it is not enough for him or the rest of them for that matter.

Keep in mind that they do not work the whole year and the wages/total compensation are unsustainable:  http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/calstrs-teachers-retirement-pension-system-in-deep-trouble/#respond

“Using the State accounting system for pensions, CalSTRS, the teacher retirement plan, had a $8.9 billion increase in liability, bringing it to an admitted unsustainable $67.3 billion. Using Federal pension accounting systems, the real unfunded liability is over $170 billion—and growing. At some point the taxpayers will be forced, by law, to bail out another government failure.”

Teachers want more, but are totally divorced from the fiscal reality.

Teachers want more and will totally turn their backs on the students in order to have their ‘unsustainable’ demands met. Looks like Troy teachers are doing just that.

  1. #1 by Anonymous on January 7, 2016 - 6:17 pm

    No raise. No COLA. NOTHING for eight years.
    It’s time for something, but not at the students expense.

    • #2 by Anonymous on January 8, 2016 - 1:43 pm

      Mr. Bainter and his crybaby ninny comrades have nothing to bitch about because in the last 8 years 10 million people lost their jobs. 80 million people lost between 50% and 80% of their retirements in their defined contribution plans. In the last 8 years 100 million people either lost their health care coverage, had to file bankruptcy or face steep increases in their out of pocket costs.

      Tell me how many of these primadonna Troy teachers were subjected to any of this?

      I though so. Fuck them all with all the rest of these overpaid, greedy, selfish, lazy, arrogant, self deluded, self absorbed, robotic, egotistical, sycophantic jackasses.

      Now they are just too fucking underpaid to help these poor kids learn a bunch of useless shit that they will never ever use in their entire life?

      Maybe we otta swap them out for some real world people with some real world experience. Maybe then, and only then will we end up with a generation of children that can solve our problems instead of these poor kids with their heads so full of bullshit that they couldn’t change a tire in the rain if their lives depended on it.

      I have owned a business and made payroll for the last 27 years and I have watched the world turn upside down while these nimrods mindlessly pull out the same slides on the overheads year after year while bitching about how broke they are. They need to shut the fuck up, go back to work or pack their shit.

    • #3 by Anonymous on January 8, 2016 - 2:21 pm

      oh, but they can program . . . .

    • #4 by Anon on January 8, 2016 - 3:33 pm

      Don’t knock programers comment #47 Anonymous. Much like composing music, not everyone can become a programmer. Don’t be jellie because Troy has today’s Mozarts, Beethovens, and Tchaikovskys under their roofs. There’s still places for people to get jobs “pissing up ropes” as #26 so eloquently put it.

    • #5 by Alexander Graham Bong. on January 8, 2016 - 3:53 pm

      So can all the H1B visa holders that the teachers union’s candidates support flooding the deck with. You know the ones that work for 26 grand a year that all the big companies are hiring instead of US college grads who think they are worth twice that much? When you knowitalls get out of college with a mortgage on your tuition debt, you can move back in with mommy and work at Walmart while you ring up their purchases.

    • #6 by Anonymous on January 8, 2016 - 4:08 pm

      Very true. Many will find out the hard way that the policies of the liberal CTA will have a devastating impact on these students’ elusive future. Based on some of the comments from the students on the facebook feeds and here, they really got it coming.

      Only a complete moron can believe this is sustainable. It is elementary mathematics. These billions in unfunded liabilities hidden in the derivative pools just need a good market crash and it will all go poof.

    • #7 by Yep H1B visas on January 8, 2016 - 5:19 pm

      “On New Year’s Eve, the Obama Administration published a massive, 181-page proposed rule to the Federal Register that would allow the Department of Homeland Security to grant work permits to skilled foreign workers well-above the limits established by Congress.

      The most offensive provision would allow foreign workers in the country on the H-1B nonimmigrant guest worker visa to receive a three-year work permit until they become eligible for the limited number of employment-based green cards.

      HERE’S HOW IT WOULD HAPPEN

      High-skilled foreign workers are sponsored by U.S. employers for the three-year temporary H-1B work visa. (We’ve documented on numerous occasions the devastating effects that current, abusive H-1B practices have on skilled American workers and their wages.) These foreign workers can renew their H-1B visas once for a total of six years, but they must leave the country after the six-year period unless their employer applies for and receives a permanent employment-based green card on their behalf.

      The rule attempts to appease the tech companies that want the annual caps raised and per-country limits eliminated. For example, the EB-2 green card, which is reserved for foreign workers with “advanced degrees” is capped at around 40,000 per year. But only 7% can be issued to workers from one country, so many times a foreign worker from India or China must leave the country at the end of the six-year period because the feds have already reached the limit for the year in that particular category or to citizens of that particular country.

      Pres. Obama’s proposed rule would allow those foreign workers who have not received their EB-1, EB-2, or EB-3 visas (even though an application has been filed on their behalf) to receive a three-year work permit until a green card becomes available. None of these new work permits would count against any of the existing caps for nonimmigrant visas or green cards established by Congress.

      Over the years, employers have been more selective when choosing which H-1B workers for whom they submit employment-based green card applications for. But should this new rule be implemented, employers can apply for green cards on behalf of all their foreign workers knowing they’ll receive work permits even if the caps have been reached.

      Even with its cap restrictions, employers prefer H-1B workers over American workers because they can pay them less and the workers can’t switch jobs, which is why they’ve been pressuring Congress for years to increase the caps. This proposed rule accomplishes the same by lifting the six-year limit and exempting them from the H-1B caps.”

    • #8 by Anon on January 8, 2016 - 10:22 pm

      Better not tell the Troy programmers this.

    • #9 by Anon on January 8, 2016 - 5:20 pm

      #49 The magnet portion of Troy is open to everyone who passes the entrance exam as long as spots are available. Some people actually choose to attend Troy because of the diversity and the general culture of educational excellence. Not everyone shares small minded opinions. Some people can actually appreciate the value added.

    • #10 by Ludwig Von Mises on January 9, 2016 - 8:35 am

      I guess you won’t mind competing for increasingly lower wage rates for tech jobs with foreign workers.

    • #11 by Not Mozarts on January 8, 2016 - 5:22 pm

      So, you are equating Troy High School programmers to great classical composers?
      Really?

    • #12 by Anon on January 8, 2016 - 5:52 pm

      #53 Google the similarities between writing music and programming.

    • #13 by Anon on January 8, 2016 - 6:15 pm

      And yes #53, there’s bound to be at least one in the bunch.

    • #14 by Not Mozarts on January 8, 2016 - 9:30 pm

      Perhaps, there is a creative genius in the bunch on a par with the great composers. Likely not, and “at least one in the bunch” is extremely remote, at best.

      And, no, #55 there’s NOT bound to be one.
      #53, because they are similar does not make them the same or even near same.

      It’s amazing that you Troy programmers put yourselves on the same level as the great composers. What egos and inflated sense of self. That is very unhealthy.

    • #15 by Anon on January 9, 2016 - 11:41 am

      One in the bunch extremely remote?? You obviously are completely clueless (underlined) on exactly what type of child is being vetted into the magnet program. You aren’t replying to a student, a teacher or someone who works for the school/district by the way. You ARE replying to someone who has been completely frustrated and for twenty plus years would be on your team as far as the education system goes UNTIL experiencing Troy, Troy’s students and Troy’s teachers.
      Troy’s teachers ARE a cut above. They deserve nothing but respect and support. Troy’s students are not only extremely hard working but intellectually capable of achieving great things. The commenters who flippantly state, “but they can program” “they can’t think critically” etc have no idea these students consistently test out as the top percentage of students nationally and internationally on tests far above their grade level on material they have never been exposed to. That takes reasoning and logic far above what is typical at their ages. It takes exceptional teachers who will be working pretty hard to keep these kids on their toes and Troy’s teachers are doing exactly that. If you want to attack a system go elsewhere to do it. This isn’t the school you are looking for.

    • #16 by Fullerton on January 10, 2016 - 2:28 am

      Complete and utter bullshit.

    • #17 by anonymous on January 10, 2016 - 7:18 am

      The products of Troy, whether it be the newspaper or what the students are communicating in writing, here, are not indicative of individuals that can critically think.

      Look through some of the posts; they contain a surplus of ego and very little contemplative thought.

      You are overly defensive of teachers that have stuck with their union interests above those of the students.

      I feel sorry for you; you are young and, yet, so loyal to something that has contributed to your blindness.

    • #18 by Anon on January 9, 2016 - 12:13 pm

      Programming isn’t all these kids can do. Programming is what they do for fun.

    • #19 by anonymous on January 9, 2016 - 9:19 pm

      I’m glad to hear that.

    • #20 by Joe Imbriano on January 8, 2016 - 8:28 pm

      Spot on minus the profanity.

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