Years back the 911 system needed some good fiber optic cable at the haunted house of horrors on Commonwealth installed. Well some good people put some good cable in those walls. Apart from the city workers warning the installers of the constant noises in the walls, no one in upper management ever took it seriously until the rats chewed through the cable and took down the 911 system.
Of course instead of blaming the rats in the walls at city hall for the outage, the brass blamed the installers for doing shoddy work. Ladies and gentlemen, I have news for you. The rats are still there and especially in the police station.
They run around behind the walls working their deeds in darkness gnawing away at the lifeline of Fullerton while the brass ignore the verminous activities that are blamed on the innocent, hard working and well intentioned.
The reason they never get caught is because they only set the traps outside the walls and let the rats inside the walls operate with impunity.
Think about this for a moment, who is in charge of policing the police?
INTERNAL AFFAIRS OFFICER BONG SCHOEN in front of south Fullerton youth
Who is supposed to protect us from the traps they set for us that really should be sprung on them?
FPD’S DAN HUGHES
What is one to do when he or she is falsely accused, when the accuser and law enforcement have no physical or credible evidence and the entire prosecutorial apparatus of the municipal corporation and a majority of the elected officials are hell bent on trying to destroy an innocent man’s reputation and political career? You stand your ground.
Barry Levinson
But what happens when the system breaks the legs out from under the innocent?’
KELLY THOMAS IN THE LAST SECONDS ON HIS FEET
What happens when the system fails even the most vulnerable?
ALL THAT IS LEFT OF WHAT WAS ONCE A HUMAN LIFE
What happens when the very people we trust to keep us safe are the very ones who are the greatest threat to our safety?
LOU PONSI FROM THE REGISTER CALLED THIS A CONFRONTATION AND AN ENCOUNTER WITH POLICE
Who is supposed to warn the public when agents of the state turn their weapons on the innocent?
LOU PONSI
So who is standing in the way of a civilian police oversight commission in Fullerton as they keep trying to sell us out to the developers while the roads and water infrastructure lie in ruin as the police get away with murder?
FITZGERALD AND FLORY both need to be thrown out in November
What recourse do we have when the system from the top down is corrupt and locked down? To quote one of my speeches at the Fullerton City Council. “There are three remedies as an American- there is the soap box which we have used, the ballot box which is next….. and I think you all know what the third box is.” Joe Imbriano 8-2-11 Fullerton City Council Meeting. I have strong convictions as an American that are unwavering.
I AM RUNNING FOR OFFICE FOLKS. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO.
FULLERTON CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE JOE IMBRIANO
Folks, you, your wife, your child, neighbor, dad, cousin, co worker or friend could be next. The more we tolerate, the more the rats in the walls will multiply, wreak havoc, chew through our lifelines, spread their filth and urinate and defecate all over where we live and breathe and all while you sleep. The murder rate in the United States was about 40 per million in 2011, the year Kelly Thomas was murdered by the Fullerton Police Department. There were a total of two murders in Fullerton during a 12 month period from 2011 -2012 and there were an additional two murders that I believe were committed by The Fullerton Police department in Fullerton during the same period. Here are the victims.
Kelly Thomas
Dean Gochenour
Dean Gochenour supposedly killed himself in jail while the FPD jailer destroyed his DAR device. FULLERTON POLICE OFFICER Vincent Thomas Mater allegedly smashed a digital audio recorder that is believed to have captured his conversations with a 52-year-old man who later committed suicide. Does this concern you? The guy is dead and the cop destroys the recording device? Are you kidding me?
In other words, the murder rate by the 100 member FULLERTON police department equaled that of the 140,000 people in the city. That translates to the fact that a Fullerton police officer is 1400 times more likely to murder you than a complete stranger! Fullerton is not what it used to be ladies and gentlemen and there are more problems than just the police killing and framing people.
Now we have even more rats in the walls at city hall rolling out phony conservative candidates like Larry Bennett who ran the anti recall campaign defending the murderous cops a few years back defending the old tax and spend RINO guard at city hall and who is clearly a police union goon who ran with Democrat police union good Doug Chaffee in the last election.
He held hands with police union goon and pro development establishment hack Doug Chaffee
And now he is holding hands with Fitzpringle in the November election.
Fullerton is well on its way to becoming an overdeveloped hell hole with third world roads run by people like Jencurt Fitzpringle who just can’t wait to rudely and disrespectfully squash public expression at meetings, give away generous raises to the police and fire departments when Fullerton is millions in the red, deficit spending with busted up roads and water mains just so she can get re elected by the union endorsements so she can ram massive development projects of thousands of units for her bosses.
Democrat in Republican clothing developer lobbyist Jennifer Fitzgerald= Vice President of Curt Pringle running round masquerading as our mayor
This is what is in store for Fullerton ladies and gentlemen.
The time for change in Fullerton is now. To hell with the phonies and damn the torpedoes. Fullerton is going fast. If you want to be lied to and be told everything is fine, then vote for Jennifer Fitzgerald and Larry Bennett. If you want to deal with reality and real solutions, I am your man.
FOR YEARS FIGHTING CITY HALL CORRUPTION, INJUSTICE, MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, FISCAL INSANITY AND STANDING UP FOR ALL OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR RIGHTS, OUR FREEDOMS AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELL BEING.
JOE IMBRIANO 4 FULLERTON CITY COUNCIL 2016
STANDING UP FOR YOU AND YOURS EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS LOOKING
#1 by Reality Is... on July 30, 2016 - 9:21 pm
Lol lol. You could be a comedian Joe. Really. You should try it.
#2 by Fullerton Lover on July 31, 2016 - 2:59 pm
…this is the new normal that we’ve come to expect on a regular basis here in Fullerton.
…more drunk drivers leaving Downtown Fullerton after a night of drinking and then running into and killing innocent and unsuspecting residents.
Well done Jennifer Fitzgerald and Larry Bennett and the rest of those horses asses who populate the Fullerton Chamber of Commerce who promote this BS.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fatal-724169-police-craig.html
#3 by Barry Levinson on July 31, 2016 - 5:04 pm
Either the OC Register got ALL the facts wrong (not likely) or the FPD has some explaining to do as to why the driver of the Honda Civic was not arrested.
The driver of the Honda who according to the FPD was driving under the influence, going southbound on the northbound lane of South Lemon Avenue was not arrested by the FPD after he hit a car head-on driving northbound in the northbound lane of Lemon Avenue. Why not? It seems you have multiple reasons to arrest the driver of the Honda.
“It appears both drivers were under the influence of alcohol at the time of the collision,” Fullerton police Sgt. Jon Radus said. “The driver of the Lincoln was initially taken into custody on suspicion of drunk driving but was later released because investigators were looking into more details involving the crash,” he said.
Let us review, the driver of the Lincoln who appeared to be under the influence but was driving on the right side of the road was initially taken into custody for the suspicion of being under the influence but later released. The driver of the Honda Civic who was also reportedly suspected by police to be under the influence and was driving southbound on the northbound lane of Lemon Avenue has not been arrested because the police are looking into the details of the fatal accident.
They were both suspected of being under the influence according to the FPD on the scene but the one driving on the right side of the road was initially arrested but then released but the one under the influence and driving on the wrong side of the road resulting in a fatality and several others critically injured was never arrested.
Does the actions of our FPD on the scene make any sense to anyone reading this story?
Well you can thank our council majority in the 90’s for giving out all those liquor licenses in downtown Fullerton which turned a family oriented downtown into a drunken mess every weekend and ends up costing lives and millions of dollars in lost revenue based on all the overtime necessary to police our out of control downtown area.
Do you ever get the idea that the people of Fullerton might be better off with no Fullerton City Council? One could certainly make a very strong case that our city council majorities have been doing a very poor job for many years.
How about we start to make things right this November?
#4 by Fullerton Lover on July 31, 2016 - 9:29 pm
“It appears both drivers were under the influence of alcohol at the time of the collision,” Fullerton police Sgt. Jon Radus said. “The driver of the Lincoln was initially taken into custody on suspicion of drunk driving but was later released because investigators were looking into more details involving the crash,” he said.
Here are the questions that I believe the residents of Fullerton are entitled answered by the Fullerton police department when they investigate this tragic accident …
1.) Which bar(s) in downtown Fullerton were still serving these drivers alcohol until they’re so wasted that they only were able to drive a few blocks before they’re driving the wrong way on a 45 MPH street like Lemon?
2.) Which bartender or waitress in downtown Fullerton was still these drivers past the point of intoxication?
Then charge the downtown Fullerton drinking establishments that served them in a civil suit, and the server and/or bartender with accessory to manslaughter in criminal court, and I’m sure that it would serve as a deterrent to others plying these kids with cheap drinks and then setting them loose on an unsuspecting and asleep populace.
#5 by Reality Is... on July 31, 2016 - 9:38 pm
First off. Where does this incident have anything to do with downtown Fullerton bars? Or anything to do with selling alcohol in Fullerton? Thanks. I haven’t read the articles in detail but is it there or are you assuming?
Next up. Yes DUI drivers get arrested often and released. Let me help you. This person is misdemeanor DUI because they didn’t cause the collision and didn’t cause the injuries due to their driving and being DUI. So let’s say they say no to a PAS and no to a breathalyzer. So they give blood. So they are booked for DUI and released within 48 hours because the DA won’t file the DUI yet because they have no evidence yet. They have to wait for blood. It happens like this all the time. Once the blood returns then they file and re arrest for issue a warrant. Make sense?
Nice try on the Fullerton PD bashing though lol
#6 by Fullerton Lover on July 31, 2016 - 10:53 pm
Where do you see me bashing the Fullerton PD in my post?
I said that the police department needs to determine via interviews, receipts and video cameras exactly which bar and which server was responsible for serving these drivers last night?
Any thing less is a disservice to the residents of Fullerton who expect their police officers to actively deter crime and criminal activity from re-occurring.
Capiche?
#7 by Anonymous on August 1, 2016 - 12:28 am
The article says that the driver of the Lincoln was released. It did not say he was charged with drunk driving. The other driver apparently was not charged with any crime. He only caused the death of one person and including himself put 3 people in the hospital in critical condition. I guess the FPD is waiting for Dan Hughes to conduct the investigation and write the police report like he did with Mr. Levinson. How many police reports do you think Dan Hughes has written since he became Police Chief. Let us count…. Barry Levinson…one and I guess that is it. However, we know according to Hughes himself that he can objective.
#8 by Reality Is... on August 1, 2016 - 12:40 pm
I agree Lover. Barry bashed the FPD with accusatory questions. I clarified those. You bashed downtown Fullerton accusing them of over serving these drivers. I also addressed yours and Barry’s accusations in terms of those questions.
#9 by Reality Is..... on August 1, 2016 - 9:09 pm
and like I said, what makes you think they don’t on every single occasion? I think the problem is you are assuming all alcohol related incidents and crashes in Fullerton all come from downtown.
Another hint is that ABC also assists Fullerton PD and all PD’s on fatal investigations where they have leads to a bar or an establishment or liquor store that sold alcohol to someone drunk or too much from the beginning.
These investigations takes months. Some 6 months. Some a year.
#10 by Fullerton Lover on August 4, 2016 - 11:20 pm
…looks like the police and the ABC missed out on nabbing the Mayor Silva of Stockton for purchasing alcohol for minors.
The sad part is he was getting these disabled children drunk, and then playing strip poker with them after words.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/silva-724642-mayor-stockton.html
#11 by Fullerton Lover on July 31, 2016 - 11:27 pm
…this fatal crash site is less than a block from Downtown Fullerton and the dozens of drinking establishments that fuel the endless party every weekend.
http://abc7.com/news/1-killed-several-hurt-in-possible-dui-crash-in-fullerton/1450929/
#12 by Reality Is... on August 1, 2016 - 12:41 pm
It’s entirely possible but pure speculation.
#13 by Fullerton Lover on August 1, 2016 - 4:59 pm
Did you ever wonder to yourself why you have absolutely no problem with a towering and obese undercover cop shooting over 30 shots at a 19 year old kid whose worst offense was attending a car club rally…
…yet you’ll argue till your blue in the face that the Fullerton PD is power less to investigate the root causes of these fatal accidents, and that it’s perfectly o.k. for the bars in Downtown Fullerton to repeatedly saturate our streets with drunken drivers, with absolutely no consequence?
…sounds to me like the Fullerton PD is protecting the bar owners more than they are the public?
#14 by Reality Is..... on August 1, 2016 - 6:02 pm
LOL do you realize how stupid you sound sometimes?
You are the example of what is wrong with this country right now. People acting like they know what happened 5 minutes after it happens. Police shootings and everything else.
I feel anyone that drives a vehicle at a human should be shot immediately. I value the person’s life more being driven at than the driver of the vehicle making that decision in the first place. Cop or no cop.
2nd is, which really makes you sound like more of a moron than you are, do you realize you are saying that Fullerton PD is unable to complete an investigation less than 24 hours after it happened? Really? Do you have any clue the dynamics involved in a DUI fatal crash? Add that both parties are DUI how even more complex it gets? And let me educate you a little more. Not only do they have to reconstruct the entire crash, but they have to submit all samples to the lab which can take a few months to complete. Then to add even more factors on top of that, the DA has to file charges within 48 hours of the arrest and no one will file a DUI without the blood sample, sometimes with a PAS sample, but in complex cases not until the blood for the drugs as well. So they are almost always released pending all phases of the investigation.
But you say they can’t investigate the root causes within 24 hours. Wow. You continue to amaze me daily. I swear I think you are Joe or Barry. Daily you all show the same signs of dementia.
#15 by Fullerton Lover on August 1, 2016 - 7:41 pm
Here’s a very simple question for a very simple mind…
Why doesn’t the Fullerton PD ever question the bar owner(s), bartenders, or the servers culpability in these fatal accidents involving alcohol as part of their investigation to determine the reason(s) that the crash occurred?
Comprendez Mendez?
#16 by Joe Imbriano on August 1, 2016 - 8:30 pm
The only way to deal with the problem is through changes to the municipal code and direction from the council. Ask yourself these 2 question:
What has the council done to deal with the financial drain these bars are on the city’s coffers-sales tax revenue is dwarfed by law enforcement costs-
What has the council done to deal with the deaths and destruction this mafia of liquor peddlers creates every night of the week.
#17 by Reality Is..... on August 1, 2016 - 8:56 pm
How about this one for you? Ready?
How do you know they don’t?
Ready? Go……
#18 by Reality Is..... on August 1, 2016 - 8:57 pm
Joe. First you have to prove they are doing the things you accuse them of. Start there. Maybe you could do that report for them? Or is that the same type of thing as the last 10 years pay and benefits for police and fire for Fullerton that I keep asking for and it won’t match your agenda and accusations so why do it?
#19 by Reality Is... on July 31, 2016 - 9:42 pm
And the driver in critical condition. They also take blood. They monitor him at the hospital and arrest him when he’s released. The other way to do it is arrest him for felony DUI now. But then Fullerton has to pay for his medical bills and also have an officer babysit him at the hospital 24/7 until he’s released. No point. Don’t book him and he’s pays his own medical bills and no cops have to be paid overtime to babysit for what could be months.
Capiche?