Barry Levinson
Here is part of his comment in response to a posting by David Curlee about the proposed changes to the Fullerton Firefighters Contract Agreement.
“With regard to Curlee’s gratuitous comments about pension contributions, let me just say that my first real job in life was as a firefighter for the U.S. Forest Service on the Angeles National Forest where I earned some money to help out with college expenses. The one think that I learned from that experience is that firefighters earn every penny they receive in salary and benefits. They work under the most adverse of conditions, and deal with more tragedy in a week than most of us see in a lifetime. Many of them die early from cancer and heart disease.”
The gratuitous comment relates to Curlee mentioning that one way to solve the problem of reducing the number of fire vehicles from 6 to 5 within Fullerton would be for the Firefighters themselves to pay more for their contributions for their extremely generous taxpayer funded pension. To a lefty like Dr. Shapiro, that statement must have been blasphemy.
Shapiro
But by following the advice in Rules for Radicals by Communist Saul Allinsky, Dr. Shapiro is accusing David Curlee of exactly what he himself has just done above. He makes a totally unsubstantiated and I believe basically factually incorrect statement to support the Fullerton firefighters. That sir is not only gratuitous it is false.
He states referring to firemen that “many of them die early from cancer and heart disease”. And Dr. many of them live to be 90 years old as well collecting 90% of their final pay plus health care for the next 40 years in retirement. In every group some die younger than the average and some die older than the average as you obviously know sir. He also stated that “They work under the most advert of conditions, and deal with more in a week than most of us see in a lifetime.” I guess Dr. Shapiro believes that firefighters who work a three day shift weekly and deal with a few if any dangerous fires in a typical year in Fullerton is hardly ‘the most adverse of working conditions”. It has been statistically proven that working at a 7-11 Convenience store is much more dangerous than being the typical firefighter, yet they make minimum wage, rather than the 6 figure salaries and the early rich retirements that all Fullerton firefighters receive from the taxpayers of Fullerton.
Nearly two-thirds of all homicides in the retail trade sector during the 2003–2008 period occurred in two types of retail establishments: food and beverage stores (41.4 percent) and gasoline stations (22.0 percent). The other third were distributed among 10 other types of retailers, including motor vehicle and parts dealers (8.4 percent), clothing and clothing accessories stores (6.8 percent), and general merchandise stores (4.9 percent).
Finally police unions have been lying to the public that police officers die earlier than the average man in America. False! In fact the last study showed that on average a police officer’s life expectancy is about the same as the average male in America.
No one is saying that a firefighter or a police job at times can be a dangerous profession. But greatly overstating that danger and lying about their average life expectancy and overstating how bad their work conditions are is simply muddying up the waters at best or lying at worst.
SHAME ON SHAPIRO
Shame on you Dr Shapiro, to throw out so much misinformation in a failed attempt to try to attack David Curlee’s legitimate concerns about our fire department.
ESTABLISHMENT SHAPIRO
But I am sure Saul Allinsky would be proud of you sir. I for one am not!
#1 by Johnny Pilot on March 9, 2018 - 9:06 am
Poaching information from FFFF without even the courtesy of a mention.
Typical.
#2 by Anonymous on March 9, 2018 - 12:22 pm
Anonymous has nothing to respond to Mr. Levinson so he is attacked by his association with Joe Imbriano. Since we do not know who Anonymous is we certainly do not know for sure who his/her associates are but we certainly can guess it is the city government establishment.
I have seen nothing that shows Mr. Imbriano is a Holocaust Denier. Please provide your proof or shut the F up!
#3 by Conrad on March 9, 2018 - 12:46 pm
It is my understanding that Mr. Levinson is barred from commenting on that website and any reference to this site is censored unless it is defamatory. Is this a true statement?
#4 by Barry Levinson on March 9, 2018 - 4:28 pm
Yes Conrad you would be correct that I have been banned from commenting on the FFFF website for several months now.
A site run by so-called libertarians is censoring free speech.
Another reason to be very skeptical about what is posted on that site.
There have been some good articles on that site and the vast majority of them penned by David Curlee. The rest of the site is lacking.
#5 by katt maraffa on March 10, 2018 - 8:17 am
Banning you from their website has nothing to do with free speech, genius. They are under no obligation to host your or your flat-earth moron buddy’s worthless garbage.
#6 by streets on March 10, 2018 - 9:16 pm
Hey lets try to stay on topic man. You guys get too personal over there. Keep it over there where it belongs. You have a much narrower audience that appreciates it.
#7 by Johnny Pilot on March 11, 2018 - 10:21 am
Yes, keep it here. Except that Barry took it from over there.
#8 by Anonymous on March 12, 2018 - 10:43 am
Ryan Cantor is a SCAG operative on our planning commission. He is Johnson’s replacement and votes like her.
#9 by Johnny Pilot on March 10, 2018 - 8:34 pm
The only thing lacking is your credibility. It was going in 2012 and has subsequently left the building.
I report, you decide!
#10 by Anonymous on March 11, 2018 - 1:18 pm
You need to lay off the chronic or you might accidentally step on a rusty nail covered in chicken shit in Bushalas’ backyard and end up in the hospital.
#11 by West of Spadra on March 13, 2018 - 2:24 am
Bushala’s $500,000 recall fuck up included Travis Kiger who was two month term loser who gave us fireworks and Jan Flory.
Bushala’s $500,000 recall fuck up included Greg Sebourn and Bruce Whitaker and Jennifer Fitzgerald.
Can you imagine how much Bushala would have fucked up Fullerton if he doubled his investment and spent a million?