A Friday blast from the past that has even more relevance today with the taxpayers even further behind the eight ball several years later. The last council meeting offered the potential for the city to get behind openness and transparency in municipal labor negotiations. What happened?
Look gang, all balloons pop. The question on this one is who is gonna be around to see it, hear it, feel it,face it and worst of all, pay for it. Looks like the joke’s on you and your kids and the establishment hacks have the taxpayers roped and this particular one fit to be tied. Buddy boy Blankhead didn’t look to happy as it may have been way past his bedtime. He can sleep all he wants now that he can really stretch it out. So what is so wrong with a concerned citizen taking some of his own valuable time and expending a lot of his effort pointing out that the sky is really falling?
Have things only gotten worse under the Flurry, the Ritzgerald (is she a RHINO?), and the dog and pony show Chaffee controlled council? Has the hole for the taxpayers gotten deeper? What about C.O.I.N? Will the Tommy’s truck be back on Tuesday nights? Great questions. Shall I elaborate on what our gracious leaders have chosen to bequeath us and our children with through the leaded, smoked looking glass?
Stay tuned.
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#1 by Anonymous on October 21, 2016 - 12:08 am
I guess Danny Boy you have not been reading the newspapers. There will be a California Supreme Court case because the police and fire unions lost in the lower courts. If the lower court decision is upheld, current workers pensions could be lowered as unreasonable.
90% after 30 years at 50 was one of the worst and most corrupt votes by our Fullerton City Council.
#2 by Joe Imbriano on October 21, 2016 - 12:31 am
And Liarry Bennett ran the campaigns of those that gave it to us and the anti recall campaign to protect them
#3 by Danny Boy on October 21, 2016 - 8:43 am
God Bless Larry. Someone has to fight off the ant government, anti Police, anti Firemen people like you Joe, Barry, Travis, Tony, and the few others that are in every town. Thank you Larry.
#4 by Barry Levinson on October 21, 2016 - 5:07 pm
I am not against the police. I am against bad policeman and a system that protects bad policemen under POBAR!
My dad and his brother were great NYC police officers. I have always been very proud of them and their service.
Danny “Boy” please grow up!
#5 by Danny Boy on October 22, 2016 - 9:46 am
Stop lying Barry. You hate cops and all government workers. Admit it.
I’m against bad cops too but POBAR protects good cops from people like you. Get it? I’m sure that’s hard for you to understand. POBAR was put in place for people just like you.
POBAR isn’t going anywhere just for that reason alone. People like you are very dangerous when you bring politics into policing.
Thank God for POBAR.
#6 by Danny Boy on October 21, 2016 - 8:42 am
The key word is “could”. Changing promised benefits for current employees will be almost impossible to pull off. The most they will be able to do is have current employees in the current system up to the change point, and then implement something new from the change point forward. That would just make anyone over 50 retire immediately which would leave no upper supervision left at all.
It’s called 3% at 50 as well. it’s not your Fullerton council, it’s every city in PERS in California, which is why the system won’t change and Fullerton won’t change either. It’s all just talk. I told you Fullerton would never go Sheriffs and you didn’t believe me. I tell you this, and you won’t believe me. Believe me. I know. Keep dreaming. If Fullerton was under their own, internal retirement system that was a scam, maybe, but it’s PERS, the same system as all other Cops in California. It won’t change outside of what has changed already which is putting new cops in the 2.7% at 57 system.
#7 by Fullerton Lover on October 21, 2016 - 6:34 pm
…IMHO the key word in the sentence is actually “should”, like you “should” start planning on public pensions being reduced soon by the state Supreme Court, and don’t be like the civilians who thought they were never going to gut their retirement plans or Social Security….you see how those turned out didn’t you?
“In a potentially huge win for advocates of cutting government pensions, an appeals court in August declared that public retirement plans were not “immutable” and could be reduced. The three-judge panel said the law merely requires government to provide a “reasonable” pension.
That unanimous ruling, now before the California Supreme Court, could be a vehicle for reducing a shortfall amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars in state and local pension systems. If upheld, the decision could lead to the kinds of cutbacks previous courts blocked.”
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pension-legal/#nt=oft12aH-3gp2
#8 by Danny Boy on October 22, 2016 - 9:45 am
I don’t see should. Would you like to place a wager? I’ve offered many bets on here over the last 10 years but no one wants to step up and put their money where their mouth is. It’s could. Cities will do just as all the other cities do. You won’t change existing systems or benefits of retirees or future retirees. Keep dreaming.
#9 by Fullerton Lover on October 22, 2016 - 7:15 pm
This cities have absolutely nothing to do with determining whether public employee pensions are immutable.
That’s for the courts to decide.