The First Amendment under attack in Fullerton

So the taxpayers appear to be getting the proverbial 5 million dollar shaft by some aspartame gum chewing rubber stamp hack that calls public comments “Tirades” and interferes with the people’s business by moving to receive and file the Brea Dam issue without any discussion whatsoever.


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Is the Fitzgerald appointee Gretchen Cox looking for direction via telepathic communication from her boss below?

Jennifer Fitzgerald became Vice President of Curt Pringle & Associates only after her election to the council

Aluminum and aspartame in solution entering the blood stream of Pringle puppet Jennifer Fitzgerald  who became Vice President of Curt Pringle & Associates only after her election to the council and acts as a tyrant suppressing the public right to free speech just like her appointee Gretchen Cox


For months, The Brea Dam Issue has been a heated topic of discussion thanks to David Curlee’s excellent work 

Barry Levinson has repeatedly brought this and other issues to the forefront for months now as an acting city commissioner. Recently, on the heels of a laughable city response to Mr. Curlee’s accusations, Mr. Levinson drilled down deeper and connected the dots to a missing 5 million dollar mess

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Barry Levinson has been serving on the Fullerton Parks and Recreation commission for over 5 years.

He does his homework, he gets his facts straight and he tells it like it is. He is the bar when it comes to what a commission member should be and he is the gold standard when it comes to the due diligence the position warrants. He represents the people all over Fullerton, not just in his own back yard. What does he get for doing his job? Well for starters, ignored by city staff when he drills down deep and puts together a 5 million dollar mess that no one wants to talk about.

Karen Lang Mcnab and Gretchen Cox pictured below, are enemies of the first amendment, much like the council members that appointed them-Fitzgerald and Chaffee as well as Jan Flory.


The Chaffee appointee who apparently just had more truth than she could handle for one night.


Denial denial receive and file-Fitzgerald appointee Gretchen Cox

During the end of the Fullerton Park and Recreation Commission meeting, it was Mr. Levinson’s turn to speak on any issue withing the purview of the commission. He was in the middle of speaking on the 5 million dollar shortfall on the American Golf contract genie that has been out of the bottle for several weeks now THAT NO ONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONS WANTS TO TOUCH WITH A TEN FOOT POLE.

WATCH HIM HAVE HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AS AN ACTING COMMISSIONER BE VIOLATED BY THESE ENEMIES OF FREE SPEECH who are interfering the people’s business being conducted in Fullerton. Mr Levinson is looking out for the taxpayers and this is either way over the heads of these rubber stamp hacks or they are wanting to keep this covered up. The problem still has not been addressed and Mr. Levinson is not letting this issue get swept under the rug.

Watch as Fullerton’s paid legal counsel present at the meeting takes part in this.


Asst City Attorney Ivy Tsai remaining silent and looking on as Mr. Levinson’s rights were violated.

She is paid to attend these meetings and she chose to allow this to happen. Ivy Tsai’s behavior was the most troubling of all in attendance as a paid city attorney on staff with Jones and Meyer. Does she know better?


Mike Savage voted to deny Mr. Levinson’s first amendment rights and to block further discussion of the 5 million dollar shortfall discussion


Wayne Carvalho goes along with Mike Savage and voted to deny Mr. Levinson’s first amendment rights and to block further discussion of the 5 million dollar shortfall




  1. #1 by About our city atty, Ivy Tsai . . . on April 12, 2016 - 7:33 am

    City Atty Ivy Tsai was there, specifically, to ensure that the meeting proceedings were conducted according to the law. It should not have been incumbent upon Mr. Levinson to step up and defend his right to speak.

    That was Ms. Tsai’s responsibility and she refused to do so, allowing Ms. McNabb to deny Levinson’s rights and adjourn the meeting.

    With the exception of Mr. Silva, who wanted answers on this and voted to abstain, these commissioners have no business on this commission or any other body of city business.

    Ms. Tsai either doesn’t know her job or is working to have this matter swept under the rug. Disciplinary action needs to be taken against her.

    They want the $4-5 M potential error swept under the carpet. Are all of you Fullerton residents okay with this?

  2. #2 by Anonymous on April 12, 2016 - 10:03 am

    Being ignored for wasting their time repeatedly is not a violation of the first amendment.

    • #3 by Sloppy Joe on April 12, 2016 - 11:24 am

      Just another lie from a serial liar, who knows everything about anything, who demonizes anyone who disagrees with him.

      The real irony here, what Joe’s whining about probably saved Mr Levinson from a Brown Act violation.

      • #4 by Joe Imbriano on April 12, 2016 - 12:19 pm

        The only ones being demonized are the taxpayers and the activists. Gotta love the truth getting out via the internet from an empty room full of clueless rubber stamp hacks with millions in tax money on the line with the city cameras turned on and rolling but the footage only available to Hughes and Felz. Gotta love the 6 dollar memory card huh?

        Welcome to the real media in Fullerton. You can go back to watching bikini contests with Ponzi or greening it up with The Kennedy clan. Glad you are here to fight it because it shows the readers just how morally bankrupt the establishment truly is. You can call me whatever you want, it changes nothing.

        The truth is marching on.

        • #5 by Sloppy Joe on April 12, 2016 - 2:10 pm

          What a total non response. Typical for a unapologetic liar.

          The fact is these folks saved your charished commissioner from violating state law.

          You complain, you complain, then you lie, then you complain some more about things you really lack even a basic understanding of. You make up for your ignorance with wild accusation.

          The procedures for this meeting run according to the commissioners themselves, not the first amendment, which has absolutely nothing to do with anything. The Chair administers those self imposed rules, not the city attorney. So not only is your ignorant rage directed at the wrong issue, it’s also directed at the wrong person.

          It takes two commissioners to properly get an item noticed and on the agenda. If Mr. Levinson can’t muster the political capital to get one lousy vote, then he should resign. He can thank you and your poison on the way out.

          • #6 by Bozo Esquire on April 12, 2016 - 3:05 pm

            The discretion of the commissioner is not absolute. Commissioner Levinson duly had the floor. Pretty dicey move on Karen’s part.

            • #7 by Sloppy Joe on April 12, 2016 - 4:24 pm

              Actually, it is. If Mr. Levinson doesnt like the ruling of the chair, he can call for a vote.

              Gee. I wonder how that would go.

      • #8 by Anonymous on April 12, 2016 - 3:02 pm

        I think you’re a demon, Sloppy Joe. You agree with everything that is wrong and disagrees with everything that is right. How can you sleep at night? I sure hope you don’t end up in the lake of fire when you die.

        • #9 by Sloppy Joe on April 12, 2016 - 4:25 pm

          Powerful satanic drugs. And vaccines. And wifi turned up really loud.

          Does wonders for your labido, too.

          • #10 by Anonymous on April 13, 2016 - 10:26 am

            No wonder! That explains everything! You are a crack head calling Joe a liar for telling the truth.

        • #11 by Anonymous on April 12, 2016 - 8:04 pm

          You might be a moron if you literally believe in demons.

  3. #12 by Barry Levinson on April 12, 2016 - 2:00 pm

    An incredibly sad day for the citizens of Fullerton and a new low for the conduct of the Parks and Recreation Committee.

    The failure of Deputy City Attorney, Ivy Tsai to not interject herself to correct the grave error made by Ms. Lang-McNabb and exacerbated by all the other committee members going along with her motion to end my right to speak (with one exception being Commissioner Silva who abstained from that vote) is something that I would never believe I would have witnessed at any publicly held government meeting in my lifetime. To not uphold the normal rules of allowing a commissioner the right to speak during the one part of the meeting that is specifically designed to allow each committee member to speak about anything regarding the Park and Recreation Department was either a grave error in judgment and common decency or part of a planned attempt to shut off any dissenting voices even from a committee member.

    The part of the meeting wherein this transpired is identified on the agenda as Commissioners Communications. I had 4 or 5 topics to discuss, which if I were allowed to complete my remarks would have lasted no more 10 to 12 minutes. I was interrupted in the middle of my first topic. The meeting at this point had lasted approximately 90 minutes from its starting time of 6:30 pm to approximately 8:00 pm. To infer that I was wasting the time of my fellow commissioners to stay another few minutes is ridiculous on its face and shows the contempt and arrogance of Ms. Lang-McNabb’s running of the meeting. If you do not have at least 2 hours to give to the community each month for the purpose of participating in the Park and Recreation Committee meeting, I humbly suggest a committee member should resign rather than vote to cut off the one committee member who was not worried about staying a little while longer conducting the people’s business.

    The Chair person, Karen Lang-McNabb’s (appointing by Council member Doug Chaffee) action to cut me off from speaking further was in direct violation of the rules of conduct for this committee meeting and was also a violation of my 1st Amendment right of free speech.

    It is bad enough that this committee normally is a rubber stamp for the Park and Recreation Department, but to conduct a meeting in such a way as to stifle free speech by a committee member is a new low even for this city.

    As for those who make light of this incident, I suggest you move to Cuba or North Korea and see how funny it is when you say something the state does not like for any reason you could be thrown into jail or worse.

    Our city government must learn that there are not two sets of rules, one for everybody else and one for themselves wherein they can do anything they please at any time.

    These are contemptible and arrogant acts by people that are supposed to be “Public Servants”.

    In almost any scandal, after the fact, the pundits say that it was the cover-up more than the original wrongdoing that eventually brings down those involved with the incident.

    Will this hold true for our City of Fullerton in this case as well?

    For if there was no wrongdoing, why is the City of Fullerton in general and the Park and Recreation Committee and Department in particular trying so hard to shut me up?

    I report, you decide.

    • #13 by Anonymous on April 12, 2016 - 4:06 pm

      Annoying cranks ignored, film at 11!

  4. #14 by Reality Is..... on April 12, 2016 - 2:30 pm

    Honest question for you Barry and Joe.

    Has the City of Fullerton ever done anything right? Ever?

    My list of things that you see as being done wrong is endless so I’m just wondering if anyone has ever done anything right.

    It’s clear you can’t stand city employees. You whine and cry all the time about the recent raise for police and fire. When I ask you why and to show me the last 10 years of pay and compensation and benefits for police and fire you refuse to show it. So that leads me to believe you don’t care what the last 10 years shows, even if it shows a loss, you just can’t get around the 6% figure now?

    Would you ever recognize a city employee for doing something good? As much as you hate Felz and DannyBoy, don’t you think they have done a great job with Fullerton over the last 5 years at least in terms of where Fullerton was before that? I think you would be hard pressed to find many Fullerton residents who would say that DannyBoy has done a bad job the last 5 years. Felz as well.

    City council. You were on the bandwagon to kick the establishment out of town 5 years ago. You wanted McKinley and Bankhead and the others kicked out now. Then they are gone and you talk the same way about the current council that you did about that council. Do you really ever think you would find a council that you agree with? I mean lets say Barry gets on the council, do you really think that he would make a difference and be able to implement his biased agenda? I don’t that agenda is what the City residents want. Wouldn’t everyone just ignore him like they do now? I see that in many cities these days. There is always someone on the council or at the meetings that spews nonsense daily and everyone just ignores them.

    Anyways, just wondering.


    • #15 by Telling It Like It Is on April 12, 2016 - 6:03 pm

      If Reality Is was living in Germany in 1946, he would be complaining about those whining Americans at Nuremberg who are making such a big deal about a couple of Jews who accidentally died in labor camps.
      In other words, RI is a shill for a Corrupt City Government who has excuses/lies for the most heinous actions taken by them including murder and sexual assaults.
      There is no action no matter how evil, disgusting and immoral that City Hall has committed or might commit in the future that RI would not jump up like a robot to sing their praises.
      These are the kind of people that come to the defense of Fullerton City Hall. Just thinking about them makes me want to run to the bathroom and take a very long shower.

      • #16 by Reality Is..... on April 13, 2016 - 9:17 am

        LOL that’s the best you could do again? 2 events out of millions over the last 10 years? Come on. I know you can do better than that with your insults and name calling. Another weak attempt. Keep trying.

    • #17 by Anon on April 12, 2016 - 7:59 pm

      Corrupt and dishonest behavior by city employees and council, and commissioners doesn’t appear to bother you, please go put your head down and go back to sleep.

      • #18 by Reality Is..... on April 13, 2016 - 9:18 am

        Same response as above. Weak attempt with no examples. Name calling and insults. Keep it up.

    • #19 by Fullerton Lover's Employee of the Month on April 13, 2016 - 6:09 am

      I thought I would include this article about a nice woman who is my own personal nominee for city of Fullerton employee of the month

  5. #20 by Sodom and Gomorrah - 21st Century Style on April 12, 2016 - 8:31 pm

    From everything I have read above plus watching the video of Mr. Levinson being so rudely not allowed to continue his comments by Chair Karen Lang-McNabb was some of the worst displays of corruption, arrogance and bullying by an official city body I have ever witnessed. Her despicable behavior and the absence of the City Attorney to uphold the proper decorum was astonishing to me.

    One could easily see that the henchmen/women running this city are getting more and more desperate each and every day.

    What was done by the Park and Recreation Committee with the blessing of our City Attorney, displays in no uncertain terms that the city is so petrified of the truth taking hold that it now takes actions to their own detriment.

    Sodom and Gomorrah has nothing over the current City of Fullerton Government.

    • #21 by Reality Is..... on April 13, 2016 - 9:20 am

      I chalk the commission decision up to the same thing I say over and over and over about Joe, Barry, and people like them. Usually they just let them blabber and spew their messages and they don’t hear a word they say. This time they actually didn’t even want to hear them spew. What’s the difference? At council meetings they just ignore what they say and in this meeting they conducted a legal vote per the meeting rules and said they didn’t want to hear it.

  6. #22 by Anonymous on April 14, 2016 - 12:08 pm

    Reality Is does not know what he is talking about… there is nothing new there.

    • #23 by Anonymous on April 24, 2016 - 12:35 pm

      He is old and tired, boring. Maybe that is the result of continually defending the Fullerton establishment, which is doing its best to perpetuate the status quo.

      Perhaps there are others such as myself that find his continued writings of no constructive value and no longer cares what he says.

      He’s tired.

      • #24 by Reality Is..... on April 24, 2016 - 1:40 pm

        I’m younger than you. So if that’s old and tired, so be it. I just ran a marathon too. Let’s party.

    • #25 by Reality Is..... on April 24, 2016 - 1:40 pm

      I love you.

  7. #26 by Anonymous on April 23, 2016 - 9:50 am

    +The Fullerton Informer I have information for you, Joe, but first, great work as always, Gary and Tressy. It’s all about words and the law, and you can smell the manipulation of goatspeak, er, legalese a mile away on Jan and Jennifer, the invalid mayors of Fullerton (lawyers may not hold public office because they are no longer citizens). I’d also look into any conflicts of interest regarding their law firms and anyone benefiting from any of these contracts they approve – good catch on the golf course conflict.

    Joe, your city did not elect mayors, it literally elected traitors (attorneys) to the constitution (they took oaths to a foreign power) who are masquerading as citizens, because lawyers are NOT citizens anymore and are NOT allowed to hold ANY public office or accept ANY emolument (payment) according to Article 13 in Amendment, which by the way they’ve been hiding for decades because we’ve had 25 of these same traitors (attorneys) sitting in the White House so far, including our lying incumbent.

    What I find most disturbing about this is we are never taught about any of this – anywhere. That’s what really needs exposing.

    *Amendment Article XIII
    “If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any Emperor, King, Prince, or foreign Power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.” *

    Further, to show just how diabolical lawyers are, when they’re called to the bar and accepted into the Bar Association via Inns of Court, a City of London foreign power, they are ONLY registered with that association, they are not licensed by any state or any US government entity as they want us to believe. They are not sanctioned by our government or any government other than the authority they possess in the City of London, a 2-square mile sovereign nation smack dab in the middle of London. They take blood oaths to this Roman Order, or association, and MUST put it first above all else, including their clients.

    All Bar members have a special privilege or honor from a foreign power. All Bar members have an emolument from a foreign power.

    The constitution of the United States forbids the *tyrant (this IS tyranny, you’re right, Tressy) by the United States, or any state of any title of nobility* . And they even admit it by trying to say titles of nobility are just a courtesy and no biggie (which is a lie, too). I believe it is going to be how we stop this and kick these traitors out of our country once and for all. Shakespeare was right when he wrote, “The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers.” And while I don’t agree with murder in any sense, I do believe we need to expose their fraud and send them packing because ALL the tyranny we see done to this country was done by Members of the Bar. All of it. It’s all about words.

    Their excuse: (q.v.) Titles are bestowed on certain officers; the president of the United States sometimes receives the title of excellency; judges and members of congress that of honorable; and members of the bar and justices of the peace are called esquires. Cooper’s Justinian, 416′; Brackenridge’s Law Miscell. Index.” Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 1856 Edition.

    “EMOLUMENT. The lawful gain or profit which arises from an office.” Bouvier’s aw Dictionary 1856 Edition.

    “The practice of Law is an occupation of common right.” Sims v. Aherns, 71 S.W. 720 (1925)

    “The practice of law CAN NOT be licensed by any state/State.” Schware v. Board of Examiners, 353 U.S. 238, 239

    Members of the Bar – attorneys – must give up their US citizenship in order to accept titles of nobility (Esquire) which is one degree above a Gentleman and one degree below a Knight. They give up their US citizenship to accept these titles, and take oaths to uphold their allegiance to the Bar (Association), and they magically “become” ABOVE our laws because our laws NO LONGER APPLY TO THEM (same principle applies to undocumented aliens, and that’s why they’re handing out free Obamacare, to document them and place them under our corporate jurisdiction so they must obey our laws – forget immigration laws, we’re talking about corporate law, our de facto, fake, illusory color of law).

    Lawyers are called to the Bar by Inns of Court. The City of London, a sovereign nation, and its Temple Bars, own and operate Inns of Court. Inns of Court are 1. the four voluntary legal societies in England (Lincoln’s Inn, the Inner Temple, the Middle Temple, and Gray’s Inn) that have the exclusive privilege of calling candidates to the English bar after they have received such instruction and taken such examinations as the Inns provide. *NOTE: These have zero to do with any nation’s government except the government of The City of London, they are private associations owned and operated by The Crown (Corporation) of England. In the US we have several Inns, but they are nothing more than branches of this same foreign corporate power.

    So basically what I’m saying is we were infiltrated long ago by these foreign corporate powers, and no one stopped them. I think it’s time we do and the way we do it is to first expose the truth.

    • #27 by Reality Is... on April 23, 2016 - 10:59 am

      LOL go read this at council please. Right after Joe and Barry speak. Then post the video. Lol

    • #28 by Anonymous on April 23, 2016 - 6:57 pm

      This is hilarious.

      I bet you think you’re a “sovereign citizen”, too. The videos of those types being completely owned by law enforcement and judges is pure comedy gold.

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