PLANNING COMMISSION PUTS COLLEGE TOWN SPECIFIC PLAN ON HOLD WHEN THE CITY’S TRIAL BALLON GETS SHOT DOWN BY THE PEOPLE OF FULLERTON. By Barry Levinson


Barry Levinson

Barry Levinson

 

It is here where you will get the unvarnished truth, a unique and fresh perspective on the current status of College Town.

Let me just say this for starters.  The plan deserved to be voted down, not just put on a temporary hold. The hungry beast (the city government) still wants to feed at the trough of taxpayer monies. It is our job to stop them.

 

I was very proud of my fellow citizens Wednesday night at the Planning Committee Meeting.  All of you who spoke did a fantastic job. You may not realize it, but collectively we have the ability to greatly impact the decision making of our city leaders. It is only when we use that collective voice that we can force our city leaders to listen to us. The people have common sense and know instinctively when their city government is blowing smoke in their faces!

 

The display of arrogance of those committee members who spoke ill of some of the people at city hall was shameful. These citizens came to speak at this very important committee meeting to address not only the committee members but also the in-house audience and those watching on TV.  If a speaker chooses to momentarily turn his or her head to the audience, you as committee members should not chastise the speaker.  It is those people of Fullerton who deserve the accolades and great respect for taking the time out of their very busy schedules to speak before you.  They do not earn a $75 dollar stipend for attending the meeting like the committee members.  The bogus claim by Committee Member Ma’Ayn Johnson that there was public intimidation and harassment from some of the audience was a failed attempt to put the public on the defensive.  It was both not true and only made Ms. Johnson look self-important, pompous and small.  It is the committee who should be so embarrassed that they reduced the public comments to only 2 minutes.  That action demonstrates a lack of respect shown by the committee to the public and they should apologize to us.  Over and over again the chairperson interrupted public speaker time and time again.

 

The majority of the committee heard from the public who except for very few who had a connection to the project were 100% against it.

 

The committee members said it was important to continue to work on the project because of its importance but then stated that almost all major portions of the project were very flawed.  They said the traffic, congestion, pedestrian safety and the partial closure of Nutwood were all problems.  Some said that the adjoining colleges have not been good neighbors, especially as it pertains to the parking problems they cause to the surrounding residential neighborhoods that has exited over the last 20 years or more.  They said that some intersections that would still be graded an F after the mitigation efforts were done were a problem.  But don’t worry folks, they will probably remove the closure of Nutwood from the plan, maybe add a roundabout and then claim success in 3, 6 or 9 months from now and then salivate as the $40 million in fees starts arriving at city hall.  What a total farce?

 

This plan should be scrapped for all of the above.  Oh I did not mention the air quality concerns with the addition of thousands of cars was also mentioned as a problem.

 

SIMPLY STATED…IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.  FOR STARTERS AT $11,700 PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT, THE PARK DWELLING FEE WILL GENERATE ALMOST 40 MILLION DOLLARS TO THE CITY ALONE.

 

It is clear that the city desperately needs to make up for the large budget deficits that already exists ($2.8 million) and which they have recently increased by millions of dollars in the form of large city employee raises especially the 6%  next year raises for police and fire and the authorization of 5 new police officers.  All these moves are done without a confirmed source of where those millions of dollars are going to come from.  The city council and our city manager are guilty of abandoning their fiduciary responsibilities to the citizens of Fullerton.  It is really that simple.

 

So we have exposed a simple truth.  The College Town project is a terrible idea that has no community support but is being pushed hard by the city because the CITY COUNCIL WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY MANAGER CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON THEMSELVES WE DO NOT HAVE!!

 

They state the parking, safety, congestion, air quality and the closure of Nutwood for thru traffic are all problems with the plan but at the end of the day the majority said they think the plan in theory is a Great Idea.

 

I will continue to shine a very bright light on the machinations of our city government. They far too often represent the special interests over the needs and wants of Fullertonians.

 

I report, you decide.

Barry Levinson

  1. #1 by Barry Levinson on February 12, 2016 - 8:22 am

    What happened at the last Planning Commission meeting is more proof of the power of an active electorate.

    Those Fullerton citizens deserve a great deal of credit and I salute you!

  2. #2 by Myna Johnson on February 12, 2016 - 9:00 am

    “The bogus claim by Committee Member My’an Johnson that there was public intimidation and harassment from some of the audience was a failed attempt to put the public on the defensive. It was both not true and only made Ms. Johnson look self-important, pompous and small.”

    How imperious is My’an Johnson. Evidently, she believes we are her subjects. She needs to resign.

  3. #3 by Anonymous on February 12, 2016 - 3:23 pm

    However, Commissioner Johnson was 100 percent correct in pointing out that yelling and name-calling detracts from your intended message. The speakers who addressed the commissioners civilly and respectfully, in a normal tone, without yelling and name calling have their sentiments and opinions expressed more emphatically than the the most obnoxious screaming ever could. Yelling from the audience when someone else is speaking is rude and only puts a person on the defensive.

  4. #5 by the people on February 12, 2016 - 3:45 pm

    I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Levinson when he speaks of the influencing power of a collective voice. Another example of that occurred about four years ago when a certain council member, whose term was short lived, attempted to replace the Fullerton Police Department with the Orange County Sheriff’s Department, an agency with a corrupt bloated union, whose incompetence contributed to the escape of three dangerous criminals from the OC Jail. The ‘people’ packed the council chamber that fateful night, just like they did on Wednesday, Councilman Sebourn, who represented the swing vote listened to the ‘people.’ The motion died by a 3-2 vote.

    • #6 by Fullerton Lover on February 12, 2016 - 7:50 pm

      That’s bullshit!

      The “people” that I saw that night was a sea of over paid and over fed blue T-shirts being worn by off duty Fullerton police officers and fireman trying to harass and intimidate the city council men who opposed their out of control behavior and allowing them to retire early at 50 on the taxpayer dime.

      Here was your “spokesman”. The same idiot that cost Fullerton taxpayers a half a million dollars to settle his lawsuit for sexually assaulting women he was paid by us to protect.

      http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/the-idiot/

  5. #7 by the people on February 12, 2016 - 11:09 pm

    Hhmmm. So, Mr. Fullerton Lover, What I hear you saying is that the collective voice of an impassioned crowd in a council chamber is only a positive force when they are on the same side as you.

    But when the collective voice of an impassioned crowd in a council chamber is opposed to your point of view, then they are a mob of bullies and shills who harass and intimidate council members. Is that it?

    Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.

    Actually, I expect a public official who I vote for to make his decisions based on his knowledge and interpretation of the facts, his own moral compass and what he believes in his heart is the correct decision for the the people.
    He should never, ever make a decision based solely the 150 people in front of him for a single meeting.

    • #8 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2016 - 6:44 am

      Wake Up Fullerton!

      It absolutely does work that way!

      Apparently, you forgot to read the police officers union playbook from the law firm that represented the Fullerton Police Officers Association. I’ll include the newspaper article in this link for you to catch up and then report back to us.

      http://www.ocregister.com/taxdollars/strong-478876-public-police.html

      You also weren’t there at the actual meeting, where the only people wearing blue, were public employee union hacks, and the politicians like Jan Flory, Doug Chaffee, Larry Bennett, Rick Alvarez, and Pam Keller, who depend on the public employee union dues to finance their campaigns to run for City Council.

      http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/The-Value-of-Political-Involvement.pdf

      Any other questions? I’m here to help!

      • #9 by Anonymous on February 13, 2016 - 9:55 am

        Funny how you throw in years old FFFF posts and OC Weekly articles all the time as if they are some accurate difinitive source.
        And to your point about poliiticians depending on union hacks for funding, who did Whitaker and Keiger and Levinson depend on on for finances?
        I’ll tell you who … a single individual who operated the very same FFFF blog that you seem to think is an accurate source.

        So I’ll say it again. When the game of politics is played to support a candidate or issue you oppose, then they corrupt scum.

        But when the game of politics is played to further a cause that you support (and nobody played politics as dirty and vicious than FFFF), then they are rightous, ethical individuals with the will of the people as their top priority.

        Please!

        • #10 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2016 - 10:26 am

          I suppose the Fullerton Observer is a credible news source?

          Trying to demonize or shoot at the messengers of truth makes you appear as if you have something to hide yourself?

          Here’s a couple articles about the sexual assaults from the boys in blue from the OC Register, which proves that even a blind squirrel like the Register finds an occasional acorn, and another from the LA Times.

          Oh wait!

          These are the sexual assault victims from a different Fullerton police officer!

          http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/03/local/la-me-fullerton-cops-20111004

          http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rincon-322832-city-court.html

          Looks like I’ll have to include another post!

          • #11 by What Goes Around Comes Around on February 13, 2016 - 12:50 pm

            Of course, Fullerton Lover, no criminal charges resulted from this pervert’s disgusting on-duty actions.

            Yet the powers that be want the citizens to believe that we have a completely transparent and honest police force in Fullerton. Those powers are lead by Fitzgerald, Flory, Chaffee, Felz and Hughes.

            Let me conclude that a city that is pushing for College Town, the Downtown Core and Corridor Special Plan, as well as the serious unanswered allegations about the ongoing handling of the Brea Dam issues, is a city that needs to clean house. Did I mention the alleged sexual assaults by former multiple FPD officers on the job and the Kelly Thomas murder at the hands of members (3 still employed by the city) of the FPD?

            And what is the FPD’s priority going forward? A retrial and hoped for conviction of AJ for an alleged non-violent misdemeanor. Vindictive, spiteful, hateful, corrupt and out of control are all definitions of the FPD leadership. And how does our city council with millions in budget deficits respond? They give them a 6% annual raise that our citizens can’t afford.

            • #12 by Joe Imbriano on February 13, 2016 - 12:52 pm

              Very astute comments.

              • #13 by Time To Take Notice and Act on February 13, 2016 - 1:45 pm

                It sounds like our city leadership never puts the well being of its citizens first. Always overspending our money for their selfish benefit and then coming up with the absolute worst plans to help pay for all of it. After all with Mayor Fitzgerald being beholden to her employer Curt Pringle and Associates, (PR and Consultant firm who had their fingerprints all over the totally unnecessary and wasteful Anaheim Regional Transportation Center (per the OC Register) costing taxpayers almost 200 million dollars), Fullertonians cannot wake up fast enough. In case you have not noticed yet, you are being Royally Screwed by your own City leadership.

                I cannot wait until Ms. Fitzgerald makes her bogus case why she deserves to represent us as our next county supervisor.
                …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… Sorry for the delay but I was laughing so much that I fell right off my chair.

              • #14 by Anonymous on February 13, 2016 - 3:46 pm

                What is amazing to me is how silent each and every one of our council members have been concerning the Brea Dam allegations. All have been silent about another big issue and that was the obvious contradiction between the Gennaco leaked report on the Kelly Thomas brutal death, which detailed the many failures by those officers to follow policies and procedures and the sworn testimony at the murder trial by Training Officer Rubio and Sergeant Craig claiming that no FPD policies were broken that fateful night. We are a patient bunch but failure to respond before the next election on these and other vital issues will have consequences. Maybe the council has not noticed, but more and more people are starting to realize their overall poor job performance.

            • #15 by Anonymous on February 13, 2016 - 2:48 pm

              Ah yes, the infamous case of the Fullerton Police Department going to great lengths to even the score with one of the most passive people in the world, for protesting the fact that six of their co-workers beat his friend to death…

              …as an added bonus, Chief Hughes refers to Barry Levinson as a liar!

              Talk about lack of civility!!!

              “As the three-year anniversary of Kelly Thomas’ beating death by Fullerton police approaches, emotions are still running high. There’s a new Chief in town, but old anger remains. The latest outrage surrounds the Pasadena arrest of inLeague Press livestreamer AJ Redkey last month on a warrant stemming from a failure to disperse charge during a January 18 protest after the Thomas trial verdicts acquitted two ex-cops. In a rare move in local politics, councilman Bruce Whitaker agendized the arrest for frank discussion during Tuesday’s meeting of the city

              After three long hours and a 10 minute recess, the council finally came to the item around 10 p.m. Supporters of Redkey stayed until the end, but a detractor, Fullerton Police Chief Dan Hughes, spoke first. The top cop stated that he’d be limited in what he could talk about but reiterated that detectives operating outside the city is normal practice. “The answer is simple, yes it is,” Hughes said.

              He mentioned that a detective on Redkey’s case actually wanted to arrest him locally after a judge served a bench warrant on March 20, but “he was unable to locate him.” Hughes reached back five years in offering statistics on arrests made outside of Fullerton: 631 for felonies and 635 for misdemeanors.

              How many for non-violent failure to disperse misdemeanors?

              Or how commonplace is it to send two supervisors and four detectives to apprehend a harmless hippie in Pasadena? Redkey’s supporters remained unpersuaded by the Police Chief’s presentation. “This is bullshit!” yelled one man from the audience.

              Tony Brandenburg, better known as the legendary lead singer of Fullerton-bred punk band the Adolescents, mentioned that he called the picket protest in Pasadena where a small group of five people, including Redkey, showed up as did detectives. There were more Fullerton police than activists! “Were they lost?” Brandenburg asked? “Probably not.”

              Two others sang a spirited ‘Ballad of Anaheim James’ to an unamused council, “What do you do with a dreadlocked hippie?” they belted. “All he did was film the police!” Chief Hughes seemed unnerved by it all bursting out of order calling ex-council candidate Barry Levinson a “liar.” Another time, he refused to look at Fullerton gadfly Stephen Baxter as he made his points from the podium.

              No action was taken on the hour-and-a-half discussion. Hughes mentioned that his department is currently looking into lapel cameras and reached out to Rialto police for more information. The news gained rare applause for the lawman.

              How much the fiasco of sending six Fullerton law enforcement agents out to Pasadena to nab a hippie livestreamer cost the city’s taxpayers wasn’t disclosed and remains an unanswered question. Watch Fullerton howl once that info is made public!

    • #16 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2016 - 8:51 am

      Funny, in an ironical sense, like a former Fullerton Police Detective Ron Bair sense,
      http://www.ocweekly.com/news/lawsuit-fullerton-detective-forced-woman-into-sex-acts-in-return-for-favorable-court-testimony-6444306
      … that you didn’t say anything about the perverted spokesman from the Fullerton Police Department that got up to speak against an elected representative of the residents of Fullerton?

      Speaks volumes of your moral compass.

  6. #17 by Anonymous on February 13, 2016 - 12:16 am

    FDR the liberal’s biggest hero was against granting collective bargaining to public unions. Why? He knew that there would be a huge conflict of interest and the public would always be the odd man out.

    When 3 FPD officers can beat to death an innocent man caught on video camera and walk free we know that the oversight of our police departments is almost nonexistent.

    Anyone police officer who does not speak out about those criminal cops is not worthy to wear any badge.

  7. #18 by Barry Levinson on February 13, 2016 - 11:43 am

    The same Planning Commission voted 5 – 0 in favor of the Downtown Core and Corridor Specific Plan. The most important agenda item to come before them in decades and two of the five committee members cannot even be present for the vote, while the other five members unanimously supported it.

    I have a suggestion for the Planning Committee. How about you vote on improving all of those D and F rated intersections before even considering making the traffic and congestion that much worse? In other words, how about doing something beneficial for the people of Fullerton. I know it is a radical idea that by your actions has not probably been considered by yourselves. However, there is never a better time to start putting the well being of the people of Fullerton first and foremost. Let the council figure out a better way to deal with the large and ever growing deficits they have created in this city, rather than ruining the quality of life for its citizens.

    I report, you decide!

    • #19 by Joe Imbriano on February 13, 2016 - 12:26 pm

      Not according to Fitzgerald sycophant Mr. Kevin Pendergraft who stated that College Town was the most important agenda item to ever come before the commission. Why would he make such a statement? He was on the planning commission in 2014 when this was voted on. Oh yeah he was on a vacation and conveniently missed the meeting and vote on the single most destructive plan ever foisted on the City of Fullerton in its history and NOT A PEEP OUT OF HIM SINCE ON THE ISSUE. What does he do for a living? He is President/CEO of Pacific Community Credit Union. Is that a conflict of interest?

      All of these commissioners need to be removed from their positions by the council as well as the council members that appointed them if they refuse to do so.

      They are not acting in the interests of the citizens of Fullerton. They are acting in the interests of developers and city employees who desperately need these massive projects short term cash infusions to make the bloated payroll, medical and pension obligations. Fullerton is being ruined for good unless we replace these people and trash the DCCSP and College Town projects.

      That planning commission should have moved to deny the plan, not bring it back when no one is looking. Don’t believe me? YOU THINK THEY WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT THESE HORRIBLE PROJECTS? Look at this-Not one archive of a community workshop on either THE DCCSP OR COLLEGE TOWN JUST A PRESUBMITTAL MEETING BACK IN 2011-THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2008

      2016
      Name Date Duration
      Currently there are no archived videos in this section.
      2015
      Name Date Duration
      Currently there are no archived videos in this section.
      2014
      Name Date Duration
      League of Women Voters Candidate Forum 10/02/14 01h 30m Video
      2013
      Name Date Duration
      Currently there are no archived videos in this section.
      2012
      Name Date Duration
      League of Women Voters Candidate Forum 09/24/12 01h 56m Video
      2011
      Name Date Duration
      NOFA Selection Committee Meeting 04/07/11 02h 47m Agenda Video
      Downtown Core and Corridor Specific Plan Statement of Qualifications Pre-Submittal Meeting 02/15/11 01h 04m Video
      2010
      Name Date Duration
      Candidate Forum (2 Year Term) September 28, 2010 09/28/10 01h 53m Video
      Candidate Forum (4 Year Term) Sept. 20, 2010 09/20/10 02h 00m Video
      2009
      Name Date Duration
      Coyote Hills Workshop 07/08/09 02h 35m Video
      New Waste and Recycling Program Workshop 01/13/09 00h 30m Agenda Video
      New Waste and Recycling Program Workshop 01/07/09 01h 03m Agenda Video
      2008
      Name Date Duration
      New Waste and Recycling Program Workshop 12/18/08 01h 15m Agenda Video

      https://www.cityoffullerton.com/gov/city_council_meetings/default.asp

      Oh yeah our so called leaders will give you a fireworks show, a new years eve beer garden, a lousy parade and a snow play day to keep your eyes off the ball. Oh yeah, they will tell you how wonderful everything is but they will never deal with the real issues like the hundreds of millions of unfunded pension and future medical liabilities, the hundreds of millions in outstanding water mains, sewer and road repairs, the rotting infrastructure, traffic, blight and bedlum. No you get fluff, smoke and mirrors and mindless diversions like Love Fullerton where you get to wash police cars and clean up the parks and paint the schools that should have been paid for by the school district and city hall pick pockets while the front end of your car bounces up and down all over town on these third world roads and the smokey back rood deals go down behind your backs until it is too late. Not this time. The lights are on and the cameras are rolling. I am running for office and win or lose, the truth is marching on.

    • #20 by Anonymous on February 13, 2016 - 1:43 pm

      I would agree that they “vote on improving all of the D and F rated intersections.” They need to actually do the job they volunteered to do — what’s best for the residents.

      I would go further and say that they never, again, work to destroy the Fullerton residents quality of life and ruin the home values. That said, no more of these projects should ever be considered, again, as they have the propensity to destroy the city.

      This city has been ‘developed’ enough. The Fullerton carcass has been picked clean.

  8. #21 by Anonymous on February 13, 2016 - 2:57 pm

    Fair enough MrLevinson and Joe
    So as was stated on Wednesday, the campus population is growing and the city’s population is growing. What should be done to manage this growth?
    Parking problems and congestion are not going away. So let’s here your plan to deal with the growth.

    • #22 by Barry Levinson on February 14, 2016 - 10:22 am

      Anonymous your statement about growth is not a given at all. It is the desire of this city council and city manager to continue to build dozens of high-rise buildings for the fees and taxes they will generate to offset the deficit spending that the city council continues to approve, demonstrating their on-going abandonment of their fiduciary responsibility to the people.

      You say that the city’s population is growing. That is only true if the city continues to rezone much of the city for high-rise development. There are very few empty parcels left in our city. That should mean a population that remains fairly constant. A city council that cares about the people first would just say no to these high-rise development schemes that requires major rezoning of the city.

      Next time Anonymous you ask a question, please start out with an honest premise.

    • #23 by Anonymous on February 14, 2016 - 4:07 pm

      Stated by whom?
      Growth for the sake of growth. Not responsible growth, but that which destroys the city. What a juvenile statement, brought about by the self interest of those that stand to benefit.
      There are plenty of answers if CSUF wants to grow. The State land belongs to the State. If they want to continue to exploit and use that land, it is up to them. A few years back, they were going to destroy the Arboretum to create a parking lot.

      They have plenty of options but we as Fullerton residents should not be the ones to come up with them. To grow responsibly, would be so that they are not destroying the community that resides there:

      1. Expand satellite campuses, outside of Fullerton and in other parts of the region.
      2. On-line classes (this was suggested at the meeting)
      3. If CSUF wants to expand, they need to figure this out . . . .

      Why are we having to come up with appropriate options? Because none of the council members or commissioners is working for us. They are working for outside interests.

      • #24 by Fullerton's Conscience on February 15, 2016 - 6:17 am

        The city council, the city committees and the city manager all seem to be more concerned with the special interests and not the people of Fullerton. It really is just that simple.

        Why would the likes of Mayor Fitzgerald talk incessantly about “Loving Fullerton” but vote to destroy the Fullerton that we the people of Fullerton have loved for so long?

        Ms. Fitzgerald if successful will destroy the Fullerton that we all love. If she gets her way, she will replace our city with more and more ugly high story building with the traffic, congestion, air pollution these buildings will bring with them. You see folks this city was not designed to have many high-story buildings and there is no way the city can accommodate that high-rise growth.

        The high-rise developers and the city officials that are salivating over the taxes it will bring to the city are the modern day equivalent of an invading army of marauders who rape and pillage a village and then go back to their homes far away taking with them all the spoils. This is what we now have representing us as our Mayor. And that is why she is valuable to the likes of Curt Pringle and Associates. They did not make her Vice President so she can ensure for the wellbeing and the quality of life of Fullertonians. Of course not. She was hired to bring in GROWTH, BIG MONEY GROWTH that generates large consultant fees that only comes with high-story, high density development.

        Tell Mayor Fitzgerald that she cannot work for two masters, Curt Pringle and Associates and the people of Fullerton. Tell Mayor Fitzgerald that we see her inherent conflict of interest and we know where currently her bread is buttered.

        We are not fools Mayor Fitzgerald. We she what you are trying to do to our city and we say to you ABSOLUTELY NOT!

  9. #25 by The people on February 13, 2016 - 3:27 pm

    Yes Joe. Do you have any solutions to share? Or are you just a paranoid delusional man who waves signs and carries around a dozen recording devices everywhere you go, pointing cameras at people and posting pictures on a blog and complaining? Doesnt seem like much of a life. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

    • #26 by Fullerton Lover on February 13, 2016 - 7:45 pm

      I’d suggest that CSUF expand where there is already open space.

      How about Coyote Hills?

      Sounds like a win-win to me.

    • #27 by Joe Imbriano on February 13, 2016 - 8:47 pm

      That’s hot. If you only knew how it feels when the truth sets you free.

      • #28 by Masters and Johnson on February 14, 2016 - 12:05 am

        the truth, yes, of course … so tell the nice readers Joe, do you take your cameras everywhere you go? To the men’s room? To bed? Do you feel naked without them? How much time do you spend pouring over all the hours and hours of video? Do you get a certain thrill from pointing cameras at people? Do you have voyeuristic tendencies Joe? Please know that there is help out there.

        • #29 by Anonymous on February 14, 2016 - 5:11 am

          Joe Felz and Dan Hughes do. Ever drove around the city? Ever been to city hall, downtown? There are cameras everywhere. Felz and Hughes like to hang out in the basement together and watch the world go by. Remember Dan Hughes watched the Kelly Thomas video 400 times?

        • #30 by Fullerton Lover on February 14, 2016 - 7:54 am

          Do you think anyone would’ve believed that a 137 pound, shirtless, mentally ill man would be beaten to death by six Fullerton police officers if it wasn’t video taped?

          Pictures and videos don’t lie…people do.

        • #31 by Anonymous on February 14, 2016 - 8:29 am

          getting pretty desperate these days?

        • #32 by Anonymous on February 14, 2016 - 8:55 am

          Masters and Johnson….a very sick puppy!!!

          • #33 by Anonymous on February 14, 2016 - 2:43 pm

            I don’t know man. Carrying around a sack of recording devices and pointing a camera at everything and everybody you see is pretty twisted. Don’t shoot the messenger.

            • #34 by Joe Imbriano on February 14, 2016 - 5:20 pm

              With the city’s half a million dollar recording system that they forget to turn on when it is convenient and the Register’s Lou Ponsi that runs cover for them with his 6th grade writing level and the Observer that puts the left side of the aisle to sleep while trashing the opposition to the the corruption, it is called responsible journalism and covering Fullerton in a way that no one else will because they are all bought off. Twisted are all those who get away with murder and plot and scheme to run our town into ruin. Would you like to do an on camera interview with me?

              • #35 by Anonymous on February 15, 2016 - 8:07 am

                Heck, who needs the Register or the Observer, when we can go to the Fullerton Informer as an authoritatve, factual source for news? How can we not take someone as credible who believes the moon landing was a hoax, 9/11 was an inside job, the drought is geoengineered, wifi is a tool of the government to sterilize children, Apple is the devil and virtually every human being in the city is part of some sort of conspiracy?

                • #36 by Joe Imbriano on February 15, 2016 - 8:38 am

                  You are a fine student of The Fullerton Informer. Oh yeah it must be true if its on TV. People that for decades have believed the lies on the television have to come to grips with what their laziness, willfull blindness, ignorance and apathy have bestowed upon their children. Everything you stated is correct with the exception of the last two sentences. Apple is not the devil, they serve lucifer. Look at the pricing of their first product, their logo, and how what they have invented and brought to market. The infertility Pad (iPad) is a microwave weapon that broadcasts at the exact frequency at which the maximum dielectric loss of water begins, through a slot antenna which intenifies and directs the microwave beam and is being deployed in the laps of children in direct proximity to their sensitive developing reproductive organs. I never said virtually every human being in the city is part of some sort of conspiracy, just a handful of people and they are becoming household names for that very reason.

                  • #37 by Flash Gordon on February 15, 2016 - 12:08 pm

                    Thanks for the Info! I’ll be sure to pack my Q 36 Immodium Space Modulator and ray gun next time I head out of my house.

                    • #38 by Joe Imbriano on February 15, 2016 - 12:48 pm

                      So tell me Flash, why did the planning commission vote down the College Town project and yet they passed the DDSCP which is 10-15 times bigger and worse?

                    • #39 by Flash Gordon on February 15, 2016 - 3:12 pm

                      Only logical and obvious explanation is that extraterrestrials have occupied the brains of planning commissioners and are controlling their thoughts and actions from a galaxy billions of miles away.

                • #40 by Anonymous on February 15, 2016 - 7:34 pm

                  Apparently, you are incapable of doing your own research but would rather attack.

                  Time to roll up your sleeve for your vaccination.

        • #41 by Preoccupied on February 14, 2016 - 7:11 pm

          Hmm… he carries around his video camera everywhere and is preoccupied with children’s reproductive systems…

          • #42 by Joe Imbriano on February 14, 2016 - 9:01 pm

            I am concerned with protecting their reproductive future. Obviously, yours didn’t work out so well and maybe its for the better. I didn’t spend 5 billion dollars on a headquarters whose landscape architecture plans are obsessed with thwarting human fertility and reproduction but Apple computer company and their offshoots sure did. https://thefullertoninformer.com/apple-666-project-inkwell-and-agenda-21-an-expose-with-an-all-star-cast/

          • #43 by Anonymous on February 15, 2016 - 8:33 am

            To all who follow this website for its commitment to the truth and to providing information that the main stream media ignores regularly. Please look at the critics that have their minds in the gutter and never shed any light via any facts.

            If you had no opinion on any of the subjects covered here, I would hope that by noting the oppositions lack of integrity and honesty that the people who post articles on this website have your back.

  10. #44 by What Goes Around Comes Around on February 13, 2016 - 7:36 pm

    Can you feel the fear and terror at city hall? It is like Scrooge’s ghosts of his past. They can’t shut their eyes without seeing all their past misdeeds. They do not regret their dastardly deeds but they do fear greatly the potential negative consequences creeping ever so closer to them.

  11. #45 by Fullerton's Conscience on February 15, 2016 - 10:03 am

    Revelation 21:8 New International Version (NIV)

    “But the COWARDLY, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

    Notice that the “COWARDLY” and “ALL LIARS” are listed first and last, respectively. This is not by accident. That the cowardly is listed first among all the sins is very telling. That this Biblical quote leaves us with the sin of lying as the last sin is also very telling. That sins that can be committed by word alone or by lack of a deed alone tells us how God cautions us to be on the side of righteousness.

    What fate do you think awaits the Fullerton City Council, Dan Hughes and Joe Felz?

  12. #46 by Reality Is..... on February 15, 2016 - 6:58 pm

    LOL I came to read this and thought to myself I wonder when the police and old news will be brought up. It happened right away. Way to keep on the same track of old incidents and old news. Keep up the good work Fullerton Police Department. As long as they are talking about old news, and old officers, you are doing your job to perfection.

    • #47 by Fullerton Lover on February 16, 2016 - 6:49 am

      In case you hadn’t noticed Fullerton’s Conscience’s post, I think “cowardly” and “liars” would certainly be applicable to the men and women of the Fullerton Police Department who have stood by in silence.

      Silence is sometimes violence.

    • #48 by Fullerton's Conscience on February 16, 2016 - 8:47 am

      5.9 million given to Ron Thomas at 8am on Wednesday before the Thanksgiving Day at a meeting called for about 24 hours earlier. Could have been disclosed the very next week at the next regular council meeting but the Council likes to deal with the dirty corrupt and illegal acts of our FPD under cover at 8 am.

      Dan Hughes totally out of control interrupts Barry Levinson during public comments screaming liar.

      Dan Hughes then admits in late 2014 that he could hate Mr. Levinson at council but that he was totally objective in taking the complete lead in his so-called investigation where the alleged victim at council states that there was no crime. ” I can’t remember if he ever touched me’.

      Yes Dan you are doing such a great job. You have shown you cannot control your out of control temper (remember when he cursed at a citizen, Samara Mohagen at council for asking him a question) and that you can be completely biased against one citizen and then purposely put yourself front and center into that bogus investigation. Two months after the alleged incident, the main piece of evidence which completely cleared Mr. Levinson, the city’s video of the city hall lobby was still mysteriously not reviewed by police and not presented to the public after the so-called investigation was completed and the DA ruled that the FPD did not provide evidence to proceed.

      Dan did the exact same thing with regard to AJ Redkey when he sent 6 officers to arrest him on non-violent misdemeanor charge of not dispersing when asked. He only even supposedly was aware of the so-called crime by ordering his team to review the tape of the Kelly Thomas protest a month or two after the fact. Vindictive, vindictive, vindictive. For an understaffed department you sure waste a whole that of time, manpower and money on your vendettas’ Dan.

      I hate to disagree with RI, but our Police Chief continually shows his bias, out of control temper, his vindictiveness and his total lack of integrity. The only old news on this website is Reality Is himself and the fact that we have proven time and again that Dan Hughes is a loose cannon who when faced with a choice to conduct a fair and objective investigation or to throw himself front and center and conduct a totally bogus investigation, he gladly and very eagerly chooses the latter.

      • #49 by Reality Is..... on February 16, 2016 - 10:19 am

        I agree. If I was Chief of Police I would hate Barry too. You want him to act like he likes Barry? Come on. Barry was guilty of the crime that Dan accused him off. Barry just got off due to the DA not filing the case. The DA doesn’t file cases on a daily basis. It’s part of the process. It doesn’t mean the suspect is not guilty. So Dan has been in the upper ranks of Fullerton PD for over 10 years now and you have 2-3 instances of him getting upset and you think that’s bad? Come on. Like I said. As long as you people can only bring up things from years ago, and minimal things at that, the police and Chief are doing a great job. Carry on. He’s the furthest thing from a loose cannon and your boy Bruce and the others confirmed him as Chief of Police after the Kelly incident. That should tell you something. And yes, I would expect him to hate Barry and Tony B and the others that said so many bad, false, made up things about the PD.

        • #50 by Anonymous on February 16, 2016 - 7:02 am

          I agree with RI most of the time. Most of the issues Levinson brings up are old news. The city is running just fine. The road improvements are being made, we are seeing development, more businesses opening, downtown is vibrant and yet he and Imbriano only look at the glass half empty all the time.

        • #51 by Fullerton Lover on February 16, 2016 - 12:31 pm

          Your reality is truly all made up in your head isn’t it?

          • #52 by Reality Is.... on February 16, 2016 - 9:01 pm

            What part isn’t Reality? I wait for current events with the PD and the best you can come up with current is that you are mad because Danny hates Barry and made because the DA didn’t file on Barry so you assume he’s innocent? That’s it? Really? Come on. Come up with some more factual evidence to support your claims that the Fullerton PD is rampant with corruption in the year 2016.

        • #53 by Fullerton's Conscience on February 16, 2016 - 12:41 pm

          RI as both a coward and a liar, you are a modern day poster boy for Revelation 21:8:

          “But the COWARDLY, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

          • #54 by Reality Is.... on February 16, 2016 - 9:02 pm

            I never lie. Ever. Again, name calling is the best you can come up with just because Danny hates Barry? Really?

            • #55 by Fullerton Lover on February 17, 2016 - 6:19 am

              Of course not. In your mind you never lie. It’s the rest of us that are liars.

              • #56 by Reality Is..... on February 17, 2016 - 9:44 am

                Not sure I or anyone said you guys lie. You have your own dreams of reality. It’s that simple. You think that the Kelly incident, of which they were all found not guilty, happened today and you think that the sex detective got multiple BJ’s from chicks today. You can’t come up with anything for today so you dream that today was yesterday. I used to blame this type of thought process on excessive weed smoking, Tony Bushala, so not sure what your excuse is.

                • #57 by Fullerton Lover on February 17, 2016 - 11:33 am

                  What do you think of Danny hiring another Thayer into the Fullerton Police Department?
                  http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2011/the-joyride-from-hell-another-victim-of-fullerton-police-violence-comes-forward/

                  p.s. note that the young man that was roughed up in this incident was my neighbor’s son.

                  Is that current enough bucko?

                  Just in case you were uncertain what nepotism is, I’ve enclosed a link to a place where you’ll find the definition.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism

                  • #58 by Reality Is.... on February 17, 2016 - 9:15 pm

                    So because a family member is a police officer or fireman and is accused of wrong doing, that should make all other family members be excluded from consideration? Come on. No wonder you are leading a city in this country. You know how many people in this country have relatives that are complete losers? Probably even yourself!

                    P.S. This so called victim in this incident made it all up and he’s a dirt bag criminal.

                    Love,

                    DannyBoy

                  • #59 by Reality Is.... on February 17, 2016 - 9:19 pm

                    Thanks for posting that link though. I used to love F’ing with Tony Bushala and all his boys. As you can see, I was all over FFFF on that post and just about every other post. I was responsible for over 75% of the posts on FFFF for awhile there. If you look closely you will see that I predicted their demise to perfection as well. I predicted that Bushala would end up in a hole and never heard from again, along with being sued for defamation and his web page shut down. Happened. I said Travis would open his mouth once and be sent packing right away. Happened. I said Bruce would take Tony’s money to be bought onto the council on the blood from Kelly’s back, and then tell Tony B to F off. Happened. Amazing what Reality Is isn’t it?

                    Love,

                    Reality Is 🙂

                    • #60 by Anonymous on February 18, 2016 - 11:34 am

                      To the administrator of this website. I believe the vast majority of your readership both appreciate and encourage different opinions being expressed here.

                      What we do not appreciate is the cursing by a few, including Reality Is. I do not want to see any more disgusting 4 letter words stated here going forward. People like Reality Is belongs in the gutter not online.
                      I for one have had enough of his bad language.

      • #61 by Reality Is.... on February 16, 2016 - 9:03 pm

        I did notice a change in title making someone assistant City Manager this year. Joe Feliz must be handing the reigns over to his hand picked successor soon huh?

  13. #62 by Awake on February 15, 2016 - 8:42 pm

    The World’s Gold Reserves are in the Global Debt Facility; the World Bank and IMF were established to return the world’s gold to the world’s peoples

    Karen Hudes
    Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM
    To:
    countyexecutive@co.pg.md.us, linda.langston@linncounty.org,
    riki.hokama@mauicounty.us, ocemail@montgomerycountymd.gov,
    kgrif@optonline.net, mgriffin@countyexecutives.org, dmccoy@countyexecutives.org, National Taxpayers Union, German Ambassador in London, Chair of the Development Comittee, Secretary of the Army, SMB-LEJEUNE-HOTLINE@usmc.mil, ORGMB.2DMAW.IGMC@usmc.mil, orgmb.igmc.hotline@usmc.mil, 1maw_inspector@usmc.mil, international@nichibenren.or.jp, Japan Credit Rating Association, tokuro.ambe@mofa.go.jp, Japan Taxpayers Association, US Embassy in Tokyo, imafuku.takao@mofa.go.jp, information@kunaicho.go.jp, o’learyjd@state.gov, hideo.ishizuki@mofa.go.jp, otsuru.tetsuya@mofa.go.jp, nakamura.kimitake@mofa.go.jp, louhou@aso.mod.go.jp, Lincoln Insurance, Lloyds Insurance, marisa.lago@treasury.gov, ramin.toloui@treasury.gov
    To: jfamiliar@worldbank.org, sekretariat.gp@nbp.pl, Members of the Development Committee
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/postmastergeneral6.pdf
    The Notarial Protest can be used to prove the dishonor of a commercial transaction
    http://www.mindserpent.com/American_History/notary/2003_Notarial_Protest_Manual.pdf Betsy Banfield-Malone Since the Federal Reserve will not respond with a rebuttal…
    given the proper amount of time…doesn’t this action demonstrate acceptance ?
    Karen Hudes Precisely. I am forwarding the notice of dishonor to the 25 Ministers of Finance on the Development Committee of the World Bank and IMF. This is copied to the Secretary and Chair of the Development Committee. https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter2.12.15.pdf
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/G20-
    ministers-gather-in-Istanbul-to-discuss-Greece-
    growth/articleshow/46177235.cms

    Greece is correct in refusing the austerity program demanded by the central bankers. Dr. Janet Yellen has dishonored the claim that it is the Global Debt Facility that owns the gold reserves allocated to the United States in the Global Debt Facility, copied to the Honorable Megan Brennan, Postmaster General of the US, H.E. Bishar Abdirahman Hussein, Director General UPU International Bureau, the Board of Governors of the Bretton Woods Institutions and the other member countries of the Universal Postal Union. The US Executive Director on the Board of the World Bank has violated the Articles of the International Bank for Reconstruction and
    1
    Development, and is under censure by the rest of the members of the Bretton Woods institutions. Pope Francis and the Honorable Adolfo Nicolas, Superior General of the Society of Jesus, have also dishonored the demand of the Global Debt Facility that they refrain from further interference in the temporal matters under the sole purview of the Global Debt Facility. The World Court has no jurisdiction, despite its futile attempt to usurp the rights of Rodney Class and other human beings on this earth. The enslavement of humanity through the legal tender laws is over. Theft by usury from the fractional reserve fiat currencies is over. The central banks are insolvent. The debts of the members of the Bank for International Settlements under the Treaty of Versailles bonds held by the Global Debt Facility offset country debts. Local currencies issued by villages and municipalities and national currencies minted from gold in the Global Debt Facility are replacing the worthless fractional reserve currencies issued by
    those private banks before permanent gold backwardation
    http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/142114/alan-greenspan/golden- rule#comment-1614911158
    Alan Greenspan is oblivious to the threat of permanent gold backwardation, brought about by the unscrupulous “network of global corporate control” he has been serving his entire life. http://www.silverdoctors.com/nothing-is-normal-when-gold-is-not- circulating-as-money-sandeep-jaitly/#comment-120074
    What is going to happen is that a coalition for the rule of law will abolish legal tender laws, issue local currency a la Silvio Gesell, and use the gold in the Global Debt Facility in aurum (http://www.peakprosperity.com/podcast/84359/new-way-hold-gold )
    The likelihood is 90-95% that the Bilateral Minesfield Breakthrough Successor Agreement https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/BILATERAL.pdf and the Sequel https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/breakthrough.pdf
    are concluded through the Monetary Agreements: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Monetary+Agreement1.pdf with the members of the Bretton Woods institutions
    http://philosophyofmetrics.com/2014/02/18/sdrs-and-the-new-bretton-woods-part- six/comment-page-1/#comment-584
    ever since I stated in the UK Parliament House of Commons Public Administration Select Committee’s report on “Complaints: Do They Make a Difference?” on page 186 “Today’s dire circumstances call for immediate and forceful intervention in the hope that time still remains.” and Elaine Colville reported on page 178 “It devolves on Parliament to sort out this egregious state of affairs.”
    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/public- administration/Complaints-1-consolidated-13-sept.pdf
    A member of Parliament is now requesting the Controller of the Exchequer to address these issues on behalf of the members of the Commonwealth who are negotiating the
    2
    Monetary Agreements.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/international+gold+reserves.pdf
    I am confident that Lloyds and Lincoln, who have insured the gold in the global debt facility, together with the US Marines, will prevent the Knights of Malta (who are trying to steal this gold) from further interference. This is because the US Military is remaining loyal (semper fidelis) to the citizens of the United States. https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter9.30.14.1.pdf

  14. #63 by CAMaven on February 20, 2016 - 10:48 pm

    Re: “SIMPLY STATED…IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. FOR STARTERS AT $11,700 PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT, THE PARK DWELLING FEE WILL GENERATE ALMOST 40 MILLION DOLLARS TO THE CITY ALONE.”

    These fees rarely cover infrastructure costs. Residents will pay and pay while having their quality of life further reduced. Hell, it won’t even cover the planning and other dept overheads for more than a couple of years.

  15. #64 by Barry Levinson on February 21, 2016 - 2:03 pm

    CAMaven it is all about the huge influx of short-term money, i.e. almost 40 million dollars in Park Dwelling Fees alone that developers would have to pay upfront to the city. If the council really cared about the people they represent they would greatly improve all the F and D rated major intersections around Cal State Fullerton and elsewhere throughout the city. But no they give outsized 6% next year raises to the police along with millions more to make up some of the police pension shortfall….you guessed it caused by the votes/actions of our past city council including Jan Flory. They always come up with the money for their special interest friends regardless of how bad the city finances actually are and always seem to short change the citizens of Fullerton. Does any reasonable person need any other proof of the duplicity of our city council?

    As I have said at public comments, the city council, led now by Mayor Fitzgerald with the support of our City Manager Joe Felz are abandoning their fiduciary responsibilities to the citizens of Fullerton to serve their special interest masters, the public unions, the developers and the lobbyists/consultants. It is really that simple. Any other explanation for their actions in my opinion makes no sense at all.

    Just wait to look at the upcoming donations to the Fitzgerald and Flory campaigns and it will very likely be filled with pubic union and developer donations and support.

    They simply in my opinion do not worry about the negative results of their actions 5, 10, or 20 years down the line to the people of Fullerton. By that time, Felz will be enjoying his approximately 200K a year retirement. Fitzgerald will be rewarded by the special interests with support (including financial support) for higher elective office while still being loyal to her lobbyist/public relation’s employer, Curt Pringle and Associates.

    I would like to hear Mayor Fitzgerald say that she would do what was right by the people of Fullerton over the financial interests of her employer, Curt Pringle and Associates.

    Guess what, Ms. Fitzgerald could try to prove me wrong and all she would have to do is recuse herself from any vote on College Town or the Downtown Core and Corridor Special Plan.
    Let us wait and see if she does the right thing by recusing herself on those votes and any other votes related to development within Fullerton.

    I also believe that Mr. Pringle may now be having second thoughts about his Fitzgerald hire as it has caused more negative scrutiny of his business. I suspect that this newfound exposure is something Mr. Pringle could do without. Or maybe Mr. Pringle is expecting big things from Ms. Fitzgerald down the road that he believes more than makes up for some current negative publicity to his firm.

    I report, you decide.

    • #65 by Joe Imbriano on February 21, 2016 - 3:32 pm

      Fitzpringle wants to be county supervisor if Shawn Nelson, you know the guy that wanted to stick a homeless shelter next to an elementary school, gets to be a judge.I guess she can do a lot more damage to the taxpayers and a lot more favors for Pringle up a couple of rungs on the ladder.

    • #66 by Fitzpringle on February 21, 2016 - 5:45 pm

      Fitzpringle is beyond salvation:

      Votes for budget deficits, 6% pay increases, no fiscal restraint whatsoever.
      Votes for homeless shelters in close proximity to elementary school, residential apartments and parks.
      Votes for cell towers in city parks, adjacent to schools.

      This creature is too far gone.

      • #67 by Reality Is..... on February 21, 2016 - 10:56 pm

        How’s Quirk-Silva doing anyways? She bought socks for the homeless to escape and dodge the wrath and the money of Tony Bushala. What a brilliant move that was. Can we bring her back to Fullerton?

  16. #68 by Barry Levinson on February 21, 2016 - 6:11 pm

    It is no wonder that Mayor Fitzgerald loves to talk about Love Fullerton Day, which should be dubbed Love the City of Fullerton Day because most of the volunteerism helps city departments and not the poor and elderly throughout Fullerton. She loves to talk about it because she does not have to talk about College Town and the Downtown Core and Corridor disasters that she is salivating to pass for her boss.

    • #69 by Reality Is..... on February 21, 2016 - 10:57 pm

      Barry. Maybe you can come up with a Fullerton Volunteer day to help the poor, elderly, and homeless? Since you seem so sincere about, please do it. It might help your attempts at becoming a council member. I’ll be waiting.

      Love,

      DannyBoy

  17. #70 by Reality Is..... on February 21, 2016 - 10:55 pm

    LOL that was funny. Your little feelings get hurt?. Can’t stand reading reality anymore huh? LOL thanks for the giggle.

    Love,

    DannyBoy

    Anonymous :
    To the administrator of this website. I believe the vast majority of your readership both appreciate and encourage different opinions being expressed here.
    What we do not appreciate is the cursing by a few, including Reality Is. I do not want to see any more disgusting 4 letter words stated here going forward. People like Reality Is belongs in the gutter not online.
    I for one have had enough of his bad language.

    • #71 by Fullerton Lover on February 22, 2016 - 12:18 pm

      Strong people do not put others down.

      They lift others up.

      THAT’S REALITY.

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