Introducing another one of Foolerton’s Phony Conservative Status Quo Establishment Big Government Union Hacks- Larry Bennett


The more things change the more they stay the same for those comprising an electorate that is not paying attention. Believe me they get by with a little help from their friends.

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The RAGister’s establishment sycophant Lou Ponsi and Fitzgerald sycophant Gretchen Cox

The typical MO for political operatives here in Fullerton is to simply muddy the waters.

They for the most, put on a thin conservative political veneer, parse words, pat each other on the back, stand for what appears to be something that actually translates into nothing, say what amounts to nothing, do what amounts to nothing, and then

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Robyn Nordell and Shawn Nelson both propped up phony conservative- Democrat turned Republican Jennifer Fitzgerald in the last election

make it possible for people like this come out of nowhere, take the public by surprise and stick it to the residents and taxpayers.

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Curt Pringle operative and Curt Pringle lobbyist running around masquerading as our mayor-Jennifer Fitzgerald

Introducing Larry Bennett who was the head of the failed anti recall campaign a few years back.

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Well he is resurfacing for some more phony conservative acting classes at Fullerton City Hall. Just one problem, his reputation as an establishment union hack precedes him every step of the way. As a refresher, he was the one who presided over the cabal a few years back that tried to cling to power as the residents threw the three stooges that for decades, ran Fullerton into the ground out on their asses.

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Well like usual he failed.

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FINE COMMUNITY SERVANTS?

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Larry Bennett was and is a tool of the FPD. At the time, Larry Bennett was protecting an out of control department that had multiple dead bodies on its hands.

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Dean Gochenour died while in custody at the house of horrors-Fullerton Jail- Dean was the man who was found dead in his cell at the Fullerton jail and the officer who was in charge at the time, decided to smash his digitally activated recorder (DAR) rather than turn it over to the OC District Attorneys office.

Then there was Kelly Thomas

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Then of course comes Larry Bennett to the rescue.  Larry Bennett’s laundry list of campaign donors is stacked to the hilt with those who who also supported the regime that for decades allowed the culture of corruption in the Fullerton Police department to flourish, the crony capitalist deals with the redevelopment scammers and the developers to go down hard and fast, and the bloated salaries and pension scams to fly at mach 2 that have left this town riddled with busted up roads everywhere, ridiculous gridlock with more high density housing on the way and no money left for anything other than The Fullerton Police departments murder and sexual assault lawsuits, and more raises and benefits for the police, fire and city workers that for the most part don’t even live here in Fullerton.

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A FEW YEARS BACK, LARRY BENNETT WAS TEAMED BY FULLERTON POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION WITH FULL BLOWN ESTABLISHMENT LIBERAL DEMOCRAT UNION HACK DOUG CHAFFEE.

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Phony Republican running with Democrat Chaffee https://fullertonrag.com/2014/10/29/larry-bennett-revenge-of-fullertons-recalled/

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https://fullertonrag.com/2014/10/22/doug-chaffee-and-larry-bennett-the-fullerton-police-unions-odd-couple/

AND IF BENNETT WAS OFFENDED BY THIS PAIRING BY THE FPOA UNION TEAM ASSIGNMENT MARRYING THESE TWO AT THE HIPS BY THE FPOA, DO YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT? HE SAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM CHAFFEE WHICH HE DID NO SUCH THING.

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BENNETT IS ALSO CONNECTED TO THE HIP OF FULLERTON’S  QUEEN SHEBA OF CRONY CAPITALISM, QUEEN OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST, PRINGLE OPERATIVE, TAX AND SPEND, HIGH RISE DEVELOPMENT PUSHER, DEMOCRAT IN REPUBLICAN CLOTHING, TWIN VOTING RECORDS WITH LIBERAL DEMOCRATS JAN FLORY AND DOUG CHAFFEE, RINO ESTABLISHMENT HACK JENNIFER FITZGERALD

 

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Running mates Jennifer Fitzgerald and Larry Bennett

LARRY TAKES WHAT HE CAN GET

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https://fullertonrag.com/2014/10/22/doug-chaffee-and-larry-bennett-the-fullerton-police-unions-odd-couple/

 

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Are these people gonna figure this out before I can pull off the DCCSP for my boss?

 

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Here is Larry defending the illegal water tax

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BENNETT’S RUNNING MATE CHAFFEE AT TROY HIGH SCHOOL TRYING TO RAISE TAXES PUSHING FOR THE BOND SCAM ON THE RESIDENTS

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THESE THREE ARE THE APPLE OF BENNETTS EYE=THE OLD GUARD THAT RAN FULLERTON INTO THE GROUND

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LARRY BENNETT HAS BEEN AND IS CONTINUED TO BE CONNECTED TO AND FINANCED BY ALL THE WRONG PEOPLE.

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WHAT IS THE MOST OBSCENE OF ALL OF HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS THAT LARRY BENNETT DEFENDED THE INDEFENSIBLE -HIS IDEA OF PROTECTING FULLERTON WAS PROTECTING THE MURDERERS OF KELLY THOMAS AND THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION IN THE FPD. HE TOOK SOME SERIOUS CASH FROM THE FPOA IN 2014

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HE ACTUALLY WORKED AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF FULLERTON RESIDENTS WHO HAD ENOUGH OF THE OLD GUARD THAT GAVE US THE FINANCIAL CLIFF AND THE OUT OF CONTROL POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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LARRY BENNETT EVEN GOES ALONG WITH THE FAILED FRAMING OF BARRY LEVINSON BY DAN HUGHES AND YET DEFENDS THE BRUTAL MURDERERS OF KELLY THOMAS.

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IS THIS THE TYPE OF LEADER YOU WANT, SOMEONE WHO COMES TO FALSE CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT DEMANDING THE EVIDENCE? THE CITY CAMERAS IN THE LOBBY SHOWED THAT NO SUCH EVENT EVER TOOK PLACE. IS THIS THE LEADERSHIP YOU WANT-ACTING WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS?

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IS HE JUST ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT HACK GOING ALONG WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT CROWD? LOOK AT HIS FACEBOOK POST FROM 2014. IT SHOWS JUST HOW COORDINATED THIS FRAMING WAS AND LARRY BENNETT WAS CONDONING IT WITHOUT EVER HAVING SEEN THE VIDEO THAT SHOWS NOTHING HAPPENED.

Larry Bennett for Fullerton City Council 2016

This is a failure of leadership when we excuse this behavior. Barry Levinson should have been booted from the commission. It’s not a tough call. It’s not a close call. We deserve better from our commissioners and we certainly deserve better from our councilmen. Do the right thing.

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A City Council motion to oust a member of the Parks and Recreation Commission, accused of simple assault of an AT&T employee after an August council meeting, failed late Tuesday.

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LARRY BENNETT’S GOOD FRIEND PAT MCKINLEY-“I HIRED THEM ALL” –

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LARRY BENNETT WANTS YOU TO THINK HE IS TOUGH ON THE ISSUES.

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THE ONLY PROBLEM IS HIS ALTER EGO IS STILL FOLLOWING MR. PROTECT FULLERTON RECALL NO AROUND. THIS IS HOW LOW MR STATUS QUO PHONY CONSERVATIVE ESTABLISHMENT HACK LARRY BENNETT WILL GO TO WIN AN ELECTION. WHAT A LOW LIFE BENNETT REALLY IS. THIS IS THE CRAP HIS CABAL TURNED OUT WHILE HE WAS AT THE HELM TRYING TO DEFEND THE KILLER COPS AND THE THREE HACKS ON THE COUNCIL THAT WERE RUNNING FULLERTON INTO THE GROUND.

LARRY BENNETT RAN THE ANTI RECALL CAMPAIGN AND MOST LIKELY HAS TO HAVE APPROVED THIS MESSAGE BELOW WHICH IS TOTALLY WITHOUT ANY CLASS OR DIGNITY. SO DOES THAT MEAN MR BENNETT HAS NO CLASS OR DIGNITY? CERTAINLY IS NOT HE PORTRAYS HIMSELF IN PUBLIC.

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I DIDN’T KNOW PROMOTING THIS TYPE OF SOFT PORN WAS PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM LARRY?

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I DIDN’T KNOW DEFENDING SNUFF FILM PRODUCTION WAS PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM LARRY.

LARRY BENNETT ACTS AS IF HE IS SOME FISCAL CONSERVATIVE WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. LARRY HAS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT HE HAD NO REGARD FOR THOSE RIGHTS AS THEY RELATED TO OR THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF KELLY THOMAS, DEAN GOCHENOUR, OR ANY OF THE REST OF THOSE WHO WERE FRAMED, MAIMED, MURDERED, MOLESTED, HARRASSED , SHAKEN DOWN, OR THREATENED BY THE FPD.

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HE ACTS AS IF HE IS CONCERNED WITH DEVELOPMENT IN FULLERTON WHEN IN REALITY, THE ONLY DEVELOPMENTS HE IS REALLY CONCERNED WITH ARE THOSE THAT INVOLVE MAKING SURE THE NEW BOSS REMAINS THE SAME AS THE OLD BOSS. WE ALL KNOW THAT SONG FOLKS.

 

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THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND LARRY BENNETT IS, HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE NOTHING MORE THAN-

Foolerton’s Phony Conservative Establishment Big Government Union Hack

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NOT ONE PEEP OUT OF BENNETT FOR YEARS AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND NOW HE IS BEING ROLLED OUT LIKE A CIRCUS CLOWN ONCE AGAIN TO TRY TO SIPHON VOTES AWAY FROM THE TRUE REFORM CANDIDATES. IT DIDN’T WORK BEFORE AND IT WON’T WORK NOW BECAUSE JOE IMBRIANO IS RUNNING THIS TIME AROUND. THE PARTY IS OVER AT CITY HALL.

 

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STANDING UP FOR THE RESIDENTS EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS LOOKING

JOE IMBRIANO 4 FULLERTON CITY COUNCIL

 

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  1. #1 by Fullerton Lover on May 7, 2016 - 5:59 pm

    This post is a masterpiece!

    Larry Bennett is the slimiest and smarmiest man I have ever met.

    Your readers should also take note the current list of political donors to the Jennifer Fitzgerald campaign for Fullerton City Council in 2016.

    Ask yourselves if you honestly believe that these out of town architects, planners, developers, realtors, special interests like Polly’s Pies owner Eddie Sheldrake’s $2,000, or Jennifer’s boss at Curt Pringle and Associates advancing her an extra $1,000 to her campaign,

    Think that they really want what’s best for Fullerton residents like yourselves, or do you believe that they would bulldoze and redevelop your neighborhood if given the chance?

    http://docs.cityoffullerton.com/weblink/1/doc/587224/Page1.aspx

  2. #2 by Reality Is... on May 7, 2016 - 8:30 pm

    You know that many people like yourself, FFFF and Tony B and Travis and the other klan members were 100% that I was Larry Bennett? The rest said I was the political hack Dave something from the IE.

    Money and politics is always fun to follow. Any city. Any state. Congress. Senate. President. It’s never a secret and people donate to the people that feel will do the best for them. Just as Barry and Joe do. 🙂

  3. #3 by Telling It Like It Is on May 7, 2016 - 8:43 pm

    Would you vote to elect Larry Bennett to the Fullerton City Council after he declared 2 years ago that Mr. Levinson was unfit to serve the city as Park and Recreation Commissioner and stated that being in favor of removing him was an easy call? Indeed for Larry Bennett it was an easy call, because he obviously did not care that the video evidence from the city hall video system proving that Mr. Levinson was totally innocent was not yet made available to the public (for over 2 months after the date of the alleged incident). This vital piece of documented, objective, visual evidence apparently was not important for Larry Bennett to view. What does it tell you about the judgment, the objectivity, and dare I say, the character of Larry Bennett to jump to that conclusion easily, according to him without the video feed.

    The same can’t be said about Police Chief Dan Hughes, who had access and obviously reviewed the video tape shortly after the alleged incident, where he learned first hand that the investigation he admits he instigated and led from the very beginning was bogus from the start. Yes Fullertonians, our Police Chief in my opinion had to have known that those accusations against Mr. Levinson were bogus from the early stages of the investigation, which he personally led.

    Thought for the Day! Maybe just maybe that is why Police Chief Dan Hughes took the reins of this investigation from the very start. You also had Jan Flory, Jennifer Fitzgerald, Doug Chaffee and even Greg Sebourn all agree that Mr. Levinson should be removed from his committee post without seeing the video (or at least that is their story). (Mr. Sebourn stated for the record that if he had appointed Mr. Levinson, he would have removed him, again without the need apparently to see the key piece of evidence, the video, which would show Mr. Levinson’s innocence.)

    However, the self-described totally objective, non-political Police Chief, Dan Hughes decided to release the video to the public only after a big time show by city council was performed, whose only purpose was to humiliate Mr. Levinson and get him thrown off the Park and Recreation Committee (with the one exception being Council member Whitaker who withheld judgment until he could see the evidence for himself and then after he reviewed it, he also found the charges bogus).

    Question? Could that be the reason it took Police Chief Hughes over two months to make available to the public the city video evidence that clearly showed that nothing happened that night and that the charges were a city hall conspiracy led by Chief Hughes and others on the Fullerton Dais. Dan Hughes later admitted at council that he contacted the so-called victim, not the other way around and led the entire investigation. How in the name of God, could Dan Hughes finalize his self-described personally written Police Report recommending to the OC District Attorney that Mr. Levinson be charged with crimes without even a mention of that vital, crucial video tape? It seems to me if the Chief heard that there might have been this crime committed under his very nose in the city hall lobby during a city council meeting with numerous police officers including Chief Hughes in attendance, he would have viewed the city hall lobby video tape first. Look how much time, money and city manpower could have been saved if only Police Chief Hughes would have done what any average rookie patrol officer would have done first in that investigation.

    Finally, it must have been an extremely slow 2 months that the Police Chief could personally devote so much time and effort in what appears to clearly be an attempt to try to railroad an innocent person whose only crime has been to stand up for the people of Fullerton. I guess this demonstrates that is the one so-called crime that this city will not tolerate.

    In my opinion based on all the facts, it would be an easy call (to use Larry Bennett’s vernacular) to come to the unavoidable conclusion that Police Chief Dan Hughes is a vindictive, corrupt, lying SOB, not only willing but very eager to engage in his own criminal activity. However, I will let the good people of Fullerton and beyond to make their own determination.

    • #4 by Reality Is... on May 7, 2016 - 10:03 pm

      LOL Barry was guilty as sin. He knows it.

      How about this.

      Put the video on a new post here so the people can decide if Barry was guilty or innocent?

      I’m sure I’ll be waiting just like I’ve been waiting for the last 10 years of raises and increases in pay and benefits for the Fullerton Police and Fire.

      🙂

      • #5 by Joe Imbriano on May 7, 2016 - 10:14 pm

        NOTE WHAT APPEARS TO BE ALTERED VIDEO FEED-MY HIGH SCHOOL SON COULDN’T BELIEVE HOW OBVIOUS IT WAS THAT IT HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH-
        http://thefullertoninformer.com/the-lynching/

      • #6 by Fullerton Lover on May 8, 2016 - 7:17 am

        I was there and it didn’t happen.

        Next question?

        • #7 by Reality Is..... on May 8, 2016 - 11:08 am

          Yes it did happen. Barry convinced the victim to not cooperate and provide a differing story. Barry used his influence to overpower the victim in the end.

    • #8 by Reality Is... on May 7, 2016 - 10:04 pm

      And don’t forget Joe Felz and Chief DannyBoy are maxed out in their retirement systems and are heading into the sunset next year.

      • #9 by Fullerton Lover on May 8, 2016 - 7:30 am

        … something tells me that we’ll be hearing more about the City Manager and the Chief of Police AFTER they retire.

        • #10 by Fullerton Lover on May 8, 2016 - 10:07 am

          There is a reason that the establishment is laboring to destroy public records rather than having them scanned and stored digitally.

          The cost is minimal and would allow the public record to be kept eternally and allow others to learn from our mistakes.

          • #11 by Reality Is..... on May 8, 2016 - 11:05 am

            Keeping city documents for life is ludicrous. Electronic or not. Not city does it and there is no reason for Fullerton to do it just because some rebel clowns demand it.

      • #12 by Fullerton Lover on May 22, 2016 - 7:15 am

        …and just in case the residents and taxpayers are unaware how much public safety sponsored Fullerton city council candidates like Larry Bennett, Doug Chaffee and Jan Flory are putting a burden on our children’s futures, look no further than the Orange County Register this morning which reports that UNFUNDED pension liabilities in older cities in California is now…

        ONE TRILLION DOLLARS!

        http://www.ocregister.com/articles/pension-716785-public-nation.html

        • #13 by Reality Is.. on May 22, 2016 - 10:22 am

          Good article. At least they used a few paragraphs to explain the realistic picture and not just the biased picture. I’ve heard for 20 years calpers was going broke. I don’t believe it.

          Chuck Reed is a prick. Billions are being spent each time he opens his dirty mouth. He keeps losing which is good.

          As long as the system stays alive with current contributors all will be fine. One of Dirty Chucks tactics were to try to do a 401k type system knowing that if he could shut down the contributions he could bankrupt the system. Wonderful idea. Could you imagine if you ended the agreed upon retirement benefits to millions and millions of retirees, a majority that are elderly or much older? Disastrous. It’s not their fault that when California was booming financially all the cities and states agreed to provide good retirement systems to public employees. Those systems have changed drastically since then with more contributions by members.

          Unfunded liabilities will always be there. Just like US debt, it will be addressed each year and hopefully lowered. I support good retirement systems for public employees. I mean look at the haters hate when those employees get measly raises? Yes, the last 10 years Fullerton police and fire have ended up losing money. Another thing Joe or Barry won’t research because they know it won’t fit their biased agendas.

          🙂

  4. #14 by Anonymous on May 8, 2016 - 7:43 am

    You can’t see the sunsets from your state or federal prison cell.

    • #15 by Reality Is..... on May 8, 2016 - 11:06 am

      LOL come on. Keep dreaming. No crimes are being committed and never have been. Stop getting butt hurt because you don’t get your way. It’s not first grade anymore.

      • #16 by Anonymous on May 8, 2016 - 1:43 pm

        I’m sure that’s what Paul Tanaka and these six LA county deputy sheriffs kept telling themselves.

        You think their butt’s gonna hurt in prison?

        http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20140923/6-ex-sheriffs-deputies-sentenced-to-federal-prison-for-obstructing-la-county-jail-probe

        • #17 by Reality Is... on May 8, 2016 - 4:17 pm

          Not even a close comparison at all. Only thing close to that in Fullerton was the Kelly Thomas incident. But the people found all the cops not guilty and paid the cops big money to move on. They are all living productive lives again and most are still serving the City of Fullerton as they should be. The other two are collecting pensions and setting themselves up for a great retirement daily. If it was up to Joe or Barry or Travis or Tony all 10 cops would have been fired on the spot. Thank God for POBAR. Tanaka case was very political for sure and politics won in the end. Personally I think the deputies got screwed on that case. Baca and Tanaka and the other supervisors were responsible for those orders and low level deputies had no clue the politics going on between Baca and the FBI but the people felt different so we have to accept the verdict just like we have to accept the Thomas verdict.

          By the way what ever happened to Tony Bushala? I figured he would pop up again with $500,000 and try to buy Joe his seat again. Where his Travis? That little punk opened his mouth one time about checkpoints and never saw daylight again. Politics is no joke. You try to be a King you become a Queen instantly.

          How’s Ron Thomas’ promises coming along? LOL he promised so much when I said all along he would get his money and never be heard from again. What a coward he was. He just wanted that TV exposure. Was so obvious.

          Anyways. Happy Mother’s Day. You all are some Mothers for sure.

          Love,

          DannyBoy

          • #18 by Fullerton Lover on May 8, 2016 - 7:05 pm

            There you have it folks.

            Reality Is.

            The poster boy for public safety.

            • #19 by Reality Is... on May 8, 2016 - 8:00 pm

              Make it read right.

              Reality Is. The poster boy for fair and equal public safety. Definitely pro public safety though. Anyone that is anti public safety like Barry and Joe and Fullerton Lover and Fullerton Resident have some serious screws loose.

              I’m against proven bad and corrupt cops, but also realize it’s such the super minority that it rarely affects any police officers we ever deal with or hear about.

              I’m realistic. That’s why I’m Reality Is.

              • #20 by Anonymous on May 8, 2016 - 9:58 pm

                You are such a bore.

              • #21 by Fullerton Lover on May 8, 2016 - 10:26 pm

                Your reality is just that.

                • #22 by Reality Is... on May 9, 2016 - 8:03 am

                  😉 Xooxxo

              • #23 by Barry Levinson on May 9, 2016 - 9:11 am

                Fullertonians I have said this many times that my two biggest heroes in my life were my dad and his older brother, both outstanding NYC Police Officers.

                It is precisely that I have first hand knowledge of how a terrific police officer conducts himself that I hold those substandard police officers accountable.

                A good police officer is someone that I respect and admire.
                However, to suggest that wanting to hold bad police officers responsible for their on the job bad actions is a no brainer. Surgeons that cause needless deaths on the operating table should loose their license to be a doctor. Teachers that molest children should never be allowed to walk into a classroom again. And yes police officers who brutally beat to death an innocent man as claimed by their boss, Police Chief Dan Hughes, should never wear a police badge again.

                But people like RI want all police officers whether good, bad, or criminal to be treated the same. He does not want bad officers to be held accountable for their actions and claims that people like myself who do are just anti-police.

                RI could not be more wrong.

                It is really that simple Fullertonians. Yes a few of you apparently did not care that a homeless man for no reason was beaten to a pulp causing fatal injuries. But as a civilized society we can’t accept that kind of brutal, vicious, out of control behavior from any police officer.

                • #24 by Reality Is..... on May 10, 2016 - 8:22 am

                  My original response was deleted Barry. However, you know full well you are anti police and hate cops. Saying your family was cops so you respect and likes cops is like saying I’m not racist because I have friends that are black. Weak.

                  Admit it. It’s ok to be anti cop. There are hate groups for that like Black Lives Matter and Cop Block. Be a member.

                  There are millions of good cops out there. To say they are all bad because of one isolated incident in Fullerton shows your true colors. Or to disrespect and hate all Fullerton cops because of one or two incidents over the last 10 years is very disrespectful and childish.

                  99.99999% of all contacts by cops across this country go perfectly. Each city will always have one or two cases to analyze and debate. Until we create police robots, this will never go away, even when you make Chief of Police. Humans aren’t perfect. The only perfect humans I’ve ever met were you and Joe.

                  Kisses.

                  • #25 by Fullerton Lover on May 10, 2016 - 11:50 am

                    “Reality Is” calling Barry Levinson “disrespectful” and “childish” amuses me to no end.

                    Kettle meet pot!

                    • #26 by Reality Is..... on May 10, 2016 - 9:58 pm

                      I get it. You guys don’t like facts and when you get caught, you change the topic quick. I’m used to it.

                      I enjoy your banter however but sometimes it’s too easy catching you guys catering to your select audience that is easy to fool.

                  • #27 by Fullerton Lover on May 10, 2016 - 5:37 pm

                    As long as there are officers beating suspects nearly to death like you’ll see in this video, I pray that there will be people like me doing everything in their power to see that it doesn’t happen again.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irh3JUch7Hg

                    • #28 by Reality Is..... on May 10, 2016 - 10:00 pm

                      Amen. Me too. Bad cops need to go. Bad cops is determined by juries and judges, not politicians. If a jury says a cop is bad, then he should be punished appropriately. I also feel that number is minuscule when the number of cops in this country and the number of daily contacts across this country is taken into consideration. Policing is not always pretty and never will be. Humans will never be perfect. With all of that considered, our police officers do an incredible job. Keep it up.

                    • #29 by Fullerton Lover on May 11, 2016 - 10:49 am

                      Agreed.

                      In the military, both the soldier who exhibited bad conduct AND his or her reporting official would bear responsibility for their conduct, and both would receive some sort of reprimand or article 15.

                      Kind of like Juvenile Court where the child AND the parents are subject to punitive action.

                      I’m sure our friends in the school system can attest to how well that this has worked for them once they decided to prosecute the parents for their children’s truancy from school.

                      Accountability breeds responsibility.

                      p.s. I enjoy the exchanges as well and hope that at the end of the day we’re making a positive contribution to enabling both police officers and residents to gain a greater understanding of each other.

                    • #30 by Reality Is..... on May 11, 2016 - 2:49 pm

                      Agree completely. I think our differences related to this are how those people or that person are termed guilty. I’m all about facts and factual evidence and adamantly against opinion, rumor, or having a small part of a story. I’m also strongly against biased media reporting. I do rely on juries big time even though I realize our system isn’t perfect. I despise politics playing a part in things, such as jobs or careers. Politics means minimal facts, which means someone getting screwed for little or no reason. So yes, supervisors are tasked with being responsible for someone’s actions but if that someone rapes someone in an isolated incident and the supervisor had no idea or no signs prior to that happening, that supervisor shouldn’t be fired and have his life ended because of it. I’m all about finding the facts, but finding the facts takes time, and activists don’t care about time and most of the time they don’t care about facts. It’s 2016 and that’s the cycle we are dealing with today.

                      Yes, more people need to be educated on everything going on in our government and the daily operations of our lives. Problem is a majority are too busy to care. Trump has sparked interest from people that have never paid attention to a government race in their lives. Maybe it will trickle down to the local level but I see it as the same people that are concerned with local politics will be the same people year after year, month after month. Thats why local politicians tune out those people that complain daily about what they do and say.

                      It’s also why I emphasize recognizing the good people do with the bad. If you complain about everything and never recognize the good people do everyday, why would they listen to anything you say ever again? I think that’s where Fullerton is at today. It’s why I tell Barry and Joe to advertise the police events, the city events, and to recognize the good this city does daily. If you always point out the bad and basically infer that all cops are bad and the police department is always bad, do you really think that anyone is going to listen to that? 99.9999% of police contacts in fullerton over the last 25 years are perfect or close to perfect. A small percent are always open to debate or investigation. A very small percent are done bad.

                      Anyways, I also enjoy the debates on here with everyone. I wish more people took part in blogs like this. I try to spark interest from the opposite view and side, and sometime over emphasize it just to get a reaction or get more information on the topic. Bad thing is it’s probably the small few that see this that I refer to in the daily complainers that never recognize a good thing done in this city and they are probably the same in their personal lives as well. I can’t imagine living life with such a negative attitude all the time, but I see people like that all the time.

              • #31 by Fullerton Resident on May 9, 2016 - 11:52 am

                The only thing RI has to say to those that disagree with him is that they have “serious screws loose”.

                His mother must be so, so proud.

                By the way using those tactics in a collegiate debate team would garner of score of ZERO.

                • #32 by Reality Is... on May 9, 2016 - 6:27 pm

                  I typed a long response but I guess the moderators didn’t like it because it was never posted.

                  So I’ll just 🙂

                  Xox

                  • #33 by Joe Imbriano on May 9, 2016 - 9:27 pm

                    The moderators did not block any of your posts. Please re-post.

                    • #34 by Reality Is... on May 9, 2016 - 9:47 pm

                      It must have disappeared then. It was in response to Barry talking about how he disrespects all police because he focuses on one incident. And by having cops in the family means nothing. He hates cops. Period.

                      Not sure how to repost.

          • #35 by Fullerton Lover on May 9, 2016 - 8:57 pm

            • #36 by Reality Is... on May 9, 2016 - 10:08 pm

              The fact that you asked really shows your intelligence. He’s not one of them but you know how many sworn deputies they have? And how many sworn arrests a year? Even though this was a non sworn civilian employee and this had nothing to do with his employment. Not surprising coming from a cop hater like you.

              • #37 by Fullerton Lover on May 10, 2016 - 8:35 am

                100% sure the article said that he was employed by the L.A.S.D., and was responsible for training deputies.

                http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2014/los-angeles-county/michael-d-ward/

                • #38 by Reality Is... on May 10, 2016 - 2:02 pm

                  Yes he was a non sworn employee who did work for the Sheriff’s department. Do you not expect something like this once every few years out of some 25,000 employees? I was simply saying what do you expect to be reality? Or are you perfect?

                  🙂

              • #39 by Fullerton Lover on May 10, 2016 - 10:13 am

                You have to only wonder how long it’ll be before Travis Kiger, Bruce Whitaker, and Chris Norby decide to file one of these type of lawsuits against the Fullerton Police Officers Association who were represented by the same law firm as Costa Mesa police union employed.

                Looks like the Judge is allowing the Costa Mesa City Councilmen and even one of their spouse to suit the tar out of these fools.

                Wonder how much that one is going to cost the taxpayers to defend?

                You think that maybe the millions that they residents will have to pay to defend these morons couldn’t have been better spent on a library or a park for the children?

                http://www.ocregister.com/articles/police-715361-court-righeimer.html

                • #40 by Reality Is... on May 10, 2016 - 2:10 pm

                  Won’t happen unless something else is uncovered during discovery that would have their names on it. This was solely because the Councilperson was pulled over and it was all figured out.

                  Dammniers firm was making millions and millions a year for many years. He was the best in the business for many years. Problem is that the threat of lawsuits against everyone and trying to push everyone around finally got old so no one cared. They pushed cops around in the end and that is never a good idea. They pushed and threatened cops and they died that day quickly. Just like Travis and Tony and others. Push cops or express your outright hate for cops, I.e. Barry and Joe, you lose your chance at anything and die a quick death. It’s not that hard to understand.

                  Where do you see tax payer money being used in this case? It’s a lawsuit by a person against people and a law firm and the police union?

                  In the end this law firm and lawyer are long gone and no money to get anyways but I commend this firm in the 90’s and 2000’s for getting fair pay and benefits for most police associations across California. I’m glad they are gone now though. Their style was worn out. Now it’s all about working with politicians and city leaders to keep fair pay and benefits for Police across California, as was recently done minimally in Fullerton, as the last 10 years indicate and prove.

                  Also, Travis killed himself. He rode in on Kelly’s blood and Tony’s money. He opened his mouth and hate for cops and was gone instantly. Political suicide. Take note Joe and Barry.

            • #41 by Reality Is... on May 9, 2016 - 10:10 pm

              And you have run out of years old Fullerton incidents so now you are going to LA Sheriff’s? Lol and you want Orange County Sheriffs right? Lol

              • #42 by Fullerton Lover on May 10, 2016 - 8:42 am

                I’ll never run out of incidents to report coming out of Fullerton, because half the officers currently working in Fullerton are transfers from L.A.S.D.

                Remember your black hatted friend Pat McKinley boasting to the world after the Kelly Thomas murder that he “hired them all.”

                • #43 by Reality Is... on May 10, 2016 - 2:12 pm

                  You are clueless. Half of Fullerton’s sworn came from LA County Sheriffs Department? Lol you are hilarious. You guys make more things up and I catch you on everyone of them.

                  You know where McKinley came from right? Lol

                  Hint: same place that Cicinelli is collection his pension from. Well one of them. He now has a Fullerton settlement and pension also.

                  🙂

                  • #44 by Fullerton Lover on May 10, 2016 - 9:45 pm

                    Here’s one of your buddy’s Pat McKinley’s highlight films from his time as an officer in Los Angeles.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhH4Vwy5agc

                    And as we saw with one of his boys that followed him over from Los Angeles, Kelly Thomas murder defendant, Jay Ciccinelli, the proverbial apple never falls too far from the tree.

                    • #45 by Reality Is..... on May 11, 2016 - 9:27 am

                      Yes I know where they came from. I love correcting you each time you post. 🙂

                • #46 by Reality Is... on May 10, 2016 - 2:14 pm

                  And there are many many great cops working for and that have worked for LASD and LAPD. Many.

                  If you didn’t know it cops will always do wrong and always get arrested and always handle calls opposite of how you would. Just in case you didn’t realize it yet. Cops aren’t perfect like you.

                  🙂

                  • #47 by Fullerton Lover on May 16, 2016 - 8:08 pm

                    Many huh?

                    The jurors signaled clearly that they did not believe the defense, returning the guilty verdicts after only 90 minutes of deliberation.

                    Brunsting and Branum each face up to 40 years in federal prison when they are sentenced Aug. 22, according to the U.S. attorney’s office. Brunsting is expected to face trial later this year on additional civil rights charges in connection with another force incident at Twin Towers in August 2009.

                    Federal authorities have now convicted 21 current or former sheriff’s officials after a wide-ranging FBI investigation into corruption and abuse in the county jails.

                    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-jail-beating-verdict-20160516-snap-story.html

                    • #48 by Reality Is.. on May 17, 2016 - 9:43 am

                      Does that surprise you? So 21 in 10 years out of 25,000 employees? Makes sense. Probably matches the same percent in Fullerton

  5. #49 by Anonymous on May 8, 2016 - 7:52 am

    A rookie patrol officer in Fullerton earns approximately $70,000 a year including benefits.

    Police Chief Hughes earns over well over $300,000 a year including benefits.

    A rookie patrol officer would have conducted a much better and certainly a more honest investigation than Police Chief Dan Hughes.

    I guess on top of everything else that is despicable about Dan Hughes, he is also one big total waste of Fullerton taxpayer dollars except of course for his PR value to Joe Felz and Jennifer Fitzgerald.

    • #50 by Reality Is..... on May 8, 2016 - 11:07 am

      All well deserved income and careers.

      Have you looked at how Fullerton compares to other OC cities or California cities? Or you don’t care?

      How’s Fullerton’s Police and Fire raises in pay and benefits been over the last 10 years?

      All things that are relevant to Fullerton residents with open minds and non biased agendas. Go ahead.

      • #51 by Fullerton Lover on May 13, 2016 - 6:37 pm

        Maybe you could help the readers understand what a D.R.O.P payment is?

        This LAPD Detective that I’ve included in the link appears to be receiving about a half a million dollars added onto his pension from a DROP payment.

        Is this why Matt Malone isn’t really retiring from the Fullerton PD and will continue to work 20 hours per week?

        http://transparentcalifornia.com/pensions/2014/los-angeles-fire-and-police-employees-pension/michael-k-kearney/

        • #52 by Reality Is... on May 14, 2016 - 2:18 pm

          It’s called the Drop program. Used extensively across California. Some like it and some feel it’s a fraud. It’s saves the cities money and allows the worker to continue working one extra year. I go back and forth with my support of it. I know some high level workers getting their pension of 200k and a paycheck for the 200k right now. But they are saving the city all of their medical, vehicle, and other things that the same worker would be getting if it wasn’t them. Not all cities do it. LAPD is big with it. Some smaller cities also do it. If it works out better for everyone then I guess I support it.

      • #53 by Fullerton Lover on July 27, 2016 - 1:44 pm

        Interesting article about fire departments at the city level.

        I noticed that when my elderly neighbor called 911, and specifically requested that he needed medical assistance for his wife, that a 40 foot fire truck with 6 or 8 fireman on board showed up to help her get off the ground, and while two of them helped her get up, the rest of the crew stood around outside out front for at least an hour after they arrived.

        The labor costs alone for that visit must have been over a $1,000, and that amount of money isn’t even taking into consideration the procurement and operating costs of the fire truck that was unnecessarily dispatched, not to mention that this huge fire truck had to be taken out of service for a medical call instead of the purpose that it was truly intended for, which is to fight fires.

        http://www.governing.com/columns/smart-mgmt/col-fire-departments-rethink-delivery-emergency-medical-services.html

        Seemed like a colossal waste of resources to me, given that the same level of medical care could have been provide from two people from the firm that contracts with the city for ambulance services, Care Ambulance.

        http://www.governing.com/columns/smart-mgmt/col-fire-departments-rethink-delivery-emergency-medical-services.html

  6. #54 by Fullerton Resident on May 8, 2016 - 11:46 am

    It is not a question of deserving a certain retirement benefit. It is simply the fact that those employees pay a pittance toward that benefit and the vast majority is paid by the taxpayers. The amounts are so outrageously high for one reason and one reason only, the public unions bribe our corrupt elected officials, nothing more and nothing less. Corrupt people as part of a corrupt system breeds corruption rising to a scale that is little different than out and out criminal theft. It is the same as if every employee in the private sector basically decided what pay and benefits they “deserved” and then gave it to themselves.

    How about safety public employees for once showing some gratitude to the taxpaying public for their great pensions?

    Instead we get people that Reality Is, who is smug, arrogant, disingenuous and mocks the public for their very reasonable concern for this very broken and soon to be bankrupt system of paying public safety workers.

    • #55 by Reality Is... on May 8, 2016 - 4:03 pm

      Love it. So you think a group just strong armed all of California politicians and citizens in a day and took over the whole state. LOL. Comical at best. Public employees pay plenty into their retirements and it’s well deserved. You had a choice to be a public employee and you didn’t choose the professions. Police, Fire, Teachers and others are noble professions and they should all be proud of the jobs they do and the pay, benefits, and retirements they deserve. 25-30 years of hard work. Yes I’ve heard they are all bankrupting the cities and states the last 20 years. I don’t believe a word of it. So continue to hate. Fullerton is low paid and low compensated compared to other OC cities and cities in the state. They deserve more than the measly raise they just got and the averages over the last 10 years.

  7. #56 by Reality Is..... on May 9, 2016 - 10:38 am

    Another great Fullerton employee saying goodbye. But you won’t ever read about that here at the Informer because they are anti police, fire, and public safety. Come on out to the Police forums and ask questions about your community and your police. Get involved. See the positives that your community has to offer and the positives about your public safety groups, not the negative from years about hyped here. Thanks for your service sir.

    http://behindthebadgeoc.com/cities/fpd/28-years-ride-fpd-detective-began-fresh-faced-surfer-dude#.VzDDLnHV19A.facebook

    • #57 by Fullerton Lover on May 9, 2016 - 1:53 pm

      Matt Malone Bio:

      “In April 2009, he was assigned as lead investigator in one of the biggest cases in recent Fullerton history: the traffic collision that resulted in the murders of Courtney Stewart, Henry Pearson and Anaheim Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart. The driver was sentenced to 51 years to life in prison”.

      …I’m aware that this accident was caused by a couple of drunks going at a high rate of speed east on Orangethorpe, however I always wondered why no one ever brought up the fact that the building on the north west corner of his intersection was built too close to the street?

      https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8597724,-117.9203489,81m/data=!3m1!1e3

      It seems like the owners of that building, and/or the city of Fullerton whom allowed it to be built that close to the intersection, should bear some of the responsibility?

      • #58 by Reality Is..... on May 10, 2016 - 8:19 am

        That was years ago and not 2016. 2016 is the era of blame. Back then we focused on the main blame which was the DUI driver. Now we blame and sue everyone around or that was looking at the event.

  8. #59 by Reality Is..... on May 9, 2016 - 10:41 am

    and the names in this article will make Tony B’s and Joe and Barry’s skin crawl! the last picture is the best. the black cowboy hat on the man that rode out of town! lOL

    http://behindthebadgeoc.com/cities/fpd/28-years-ride-fpd-detective-began-fresh-faced-surfer-dude#.VzDDLnHV19A.facebook

    • #60 by ubuNTU on May 9, 2016 - 9:29 pm

      tHE HIGH PRIaest of daRKTNESS -symbolism of black HATTER-next TO POPE AND jAk Nikolsan Macsatan is reveal hiMSELf to you aLL

    • #61 by Fullerton Lover on May 13, 2016 - 7:04 pm

      …perhaps you can shed some light on why this officer is officially retiring, yet continues to work 20 hours per week?

      D.R.O.P.?

      p.s. This Detective received a $500,000 DROP payment after he’s retired?

      http://transparentcalifornia.com/pensions/2014/los-angeles-fire-and-police-employees-pension/michael-k-kearney/

      • #62 by Reality Is... on May 14, 2016 - 2:19 pm

        I explained in the other post. Lol no one received a 500k drop payment. It’s hours worked after retirement and those hours are limited for one year.

        • #63 by Fullerton Lover on May 17, 2016 - 6:38 am

          I’m absolutely POSITIVE that I saw a one-time DROP payment of $498,000.00 to Michael Kevin Kearney of LAPD.

          That’s one hell of a year of semi-retirement!

    • #64 by Fullerton Lover on May 17, 2016 - 9:04 am

      The bully in the black cowboy hat that your referring was actually ridden out of town when the residents of the city of Fullerton recalled him from the city council.

      p.s. This is how Patty McKinley boys decide to teach mentally ill inmates, and mentally ill people like Kelly Thomas, how to show an officer of the law “respect”…

      ‘This Is How You Beat an Inmate’

      Just a week ago, two L.A. County sheriff’s deputies were sentenced to federal prison for lying on reports they wrote about violently subduing a handcuffed jail inmate. Now, two more deputies – including one responsible for training new recruits — have been found guilty of beating a mentally ill inmate and falsifying reports to cover up the attack. As a prosecutor put it, the 2010 beating was in part a lesson to a new hire: “This is how you beat an inmate. This is how things are done at Twin Towers.”

      http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-jail-beating-trial-20160516-snap-story.html

      • #65 by Reality Is..... on May 17, 2016 - 2:39 pm

        You know he had nothing to do with LA County Sheriff’s Dept right? Just so you stop posting that McKinley’s boys that he brought to Fullerton are your excuse for all the failures. You are making yourself look dumber than you are.

        • #66 by Fullerton Lover on May 17, 2016 - 8:31 pm

          I never said Pat McKinley worked for anyone other than the LAPD?

          I also said that Pat McKinley proclaimed that he had hired and trained all six of the idiots that were charged in the murder of a 137 pound shirtless and mentally ill homeless man. (see clip below)

          http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/cnn-showdown-bushala-v-mckinley/

          Pat McKinley had been in Fullerton since 1993, and was shown the door by the residents of Fullerton in 2011.

          p.s. How’s that witty response on the half a million DROP payment coming along?

          • #67 by Reality Is..... on May 18, 2016 - 6:20 am

            LOL yes you did. Nice retraction. Be careful trying to post facts or you will start to look like Barry and Joe soon with your mistakes.

            McKinley didn’t hire and train all 6. He may have hired a few but he didn’t train them.

            I responded to all of your DROP claims. I explained the program for you also. No one got a half million dollar drop payment. There is no such thing as a drop payment. It’s called a drop program and it’s used often by cities across the state as we speak. Maybe even Fullerton uses the program too. Research it or find my responses.

            • #68 by Telling It Like It Is on May 18, 2016 - 12:03 pm

              Once again RI makes a false comment, stating that Mr. Levinson and Mr. Imbriano routinely make “mistakes’, but conveniently for him not supporting his statement.

              Question? Why is it that so many who support our current city government and their special interest friends have such a hard time telling the truth?

              Answer? For them it is not about the truth, it is not about representing the good people of Fullerton but rather it is all about money and power.

              • #69 by Reality Is..... on May 18, 2016 - 5:05 pm

                Nice try FL. If you think that Barry and Joe tell the truth and don’t make up their stories then you are blind. Open your eyes and do some research yourself. They are very biased.

                Why do you think so many in Fullerton support their city leaders, their police, their fire? You think they are all actually completely blind to reality or do you think they actually think and know they are doing a great job with the residents in mind at all times? Just because a city has a few people off their rocker 24/7 that say the police have never done a good thing ever, and city leaders have never done a good thing ever, doesn’t mean it’s actually true. To think otherwise, really shows your pure intelligence at this point.

                It’s all about the truth. The reality. Being realistic. Don’t believe biased reporting and biased media. It will be the death of you.

                • #70 by Fullerton Lover on May 18, 2016 - 9:15 pm

                  I think it’s the sign of an unhealthy mind that your addressing your responses to me instead of Telling It Like It Is.

                  • #71 by Reality Is.... on May 19, 2016 - 9:08 am

                    Same style of mistakes. Same tone. Odds were it was you.

                    🙂

                    • #72 by Fullerton Lover on May 19, 2016 - 10:10 am

                      Reality says it wasn’t : )

                      Maybe starting to lose touch with Reality : (

                    • #73 by Reality Is.. on May 19, 2016 - 7:43 pm

                      Never know. I am getting old. Let me know if I start acting demented a little like Joe or Barry.

                      🙂

                    • #74 by Fullerton Lover on May 20, 2016 - 1:47 am

                      Will do.

                      Got your back ; )

              • #75 by Reality Is..... on May 18, 2016 - 5:08 pm

                And good avoidance on your factual claim first that McKinley was associated with LA Sheriff’s Dept first and then that McKinley hired and trained all of the Officers in the Kelly incident. Look up McKinley’s pension from all of his police agencies and his time on the council. Let me know what it is. I’m curious and I’m curious if he’s leading a rough life since he left the council seat.

                • #76 by Fullerton Lover on May 18, 2016 - 9:45 pm

                  http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2012/cnn-showdown-bushala-v-mckinley/

                  Watch the CNN interview, and then ask yourself, “if I were a reasonable person (your not) and heard McKinley state to the interviewer that” he hired them all ” and that he was the Chief of Police in Fullerton since 1993 and was responsible for those officers training, what conclusion you would draw?

                  p.s. You know the poor guy just buried his unmarried son, Dan, so I’m not sure how people like you measure happiness?

                  • #77 by Reality Is.... on May 19, 2016 - 9:09 am

                    Awesome. True I’m sure he’s sad.

                    🙁

                  • #78 by Reality Is.... on May 19, 2016 - 9:10 am

                    I sure miss Tony. Damn. He bought his way into the city and poof was gone in a day. Have you seen his new blog? I responded and he deletes my responses. But then used my name now. Awesome.

                • #79 by Fullerton Lover on May 19, 2016 - 11:21 am

                  Gleaned from the comments section of this article…
                  Can you imagine normal people having this kind of protection from firing in normal workplaces? NOTHING would get done! And we wonder why they abuse the heck out of everyone?

                  “Honestly, we’re considering moving our entire business out of LA because our employees are harassed by the police, business gets disrupted, and we don’t feel safe around “law enforcement.” They’re no different than a legal gang that is harming our region’s economy and quality of life.”

                  “There’s a similar scandal going on with the Long Beach Police Department. Difference is that the IA investigator (Donald Wood) was caught lying to sustain the charges. Twist, Wood was fired from Garden Grove PD years ago and then hired by LB. oh, and Sheriff McDonald was Chief at the time in Long Beach”. Check out the link.
                  http://www.longbeachcomber.com/story.aspx?artID=5565

                  Wonder where they get that perception from?

                  Anyone else notice that corrupt police aren’t limited to Fullerton and maybe this is a statewide trend/epidemic?

                  http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-union-lawsuit-20160519-snap-story.html

                  • #80 by Reality Is.. on May 19, 2016 - 7:55 pm

                    Good reading. I like stories like that. Hard to tell what is true and what is pissed off employees making stuff up. James is and has been President for many many years. I hear and see stories like this all the time involving employees that are mad or bitter for whatever reason. I doubt anyone will ever know the whole story.

                    I see a common theme in they blog that I see here and always saw on FFFF. Article author appeared very biased, hateful, and bitter about something. Wonder what it is. I bet he’s at many council meetings complaint about things.

                    Yes FL. There is the same percentage of liars and thieves and whackos in police work as there is in any job. Not sure why that would surprise you. I put the number at 1-3% of any profession or any job. That’s why Internal Affairs is a full time job of multiple people. Learn something new everyday huh?

                  • #81 by Reality Is.. on May 19, 2016 - 8:20 pm

                    How many people in LA Sheriff’s and LAPD alone do you think get arrested each year?

            • #82 by Fullerton Lover on May 18, 2016 - 12:22 pm

              Michael K Kearney
              DETECTIVE

              Note: Pension includes a one-time DROP payment of: $455,869.83

              Pension:
              $498,191.31

              Benefits:
              $8,847.81

              Disability:
              $0.00

              Total pension &
              benefits amount:
              $507,039.12

              Last Employer:
              Not Provided

              Years of Service
              25.39

              Year of Retirement
              2009

              © 2015 Transparent California
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              I’ll have to spell it out for you s-l-o-w-l-y in my post so that you and others can see that their is in fact such a thing as a DROP payment, and in this case, it’s in the amount of almost a half a million dollars to someone that’s been on the books as being retired since 2009?

              My reference is from the official state of California website for all California salaries and pensions, which is Transparentcalifornia.com, the specific example I’ve given above can be found with the URL of the enclosed link.

              Now could you please respond to my simple question as to how someone that’s been retired for seven years, draws a one-time DROP payment of $455,000.00 dollars?

              http://transparentcalifornia.com/pensions/2014/los-angeles-fire-and-police-employees-pension/michael-k-kearney/

              • #83 by Reality Is..... on May 18, 2016 - 5:02 pm

                Let me help you out a little bit since you seem to be a little slow. No one got a $500,000 check for their DROP program participation. You are one of those people that read articles and actually believe all of the article. You realize that 10% of what you read online is true? 10% of what you read on this blog is true, the other 90% is made up or enhanced to sway the reader. You hear of biased media? It’s all we have these days. There is no such thing as media anymore.

                So since we know nothing about this Kearney guy let me take an educated guess, instead of assuming like you are. Most DROP programs are for one year. Some, like Fire, you can do it up to 5 years. It’s a program that was implemented to save cities and the state money. I know LAPD uses it for almost every employee that desires to work an extra year. So they get the services of that employee for that 1-5 years and they simply pay an hourly wage, no benefits, no retirement, no medical, etc.

                So let’s say this Kearney clown is a fireman. Let’s say he took part in the LA DROP program for the 5 years. Then yes, over that 5 years he probably could have earned $500,000 total so that would make sense. Did he tell the City of LA to keep his wages for all 5 years so that he could get a lump sum payment in the end to roll into some type of investment?. Entirely possible I suppose. But with the link you keep providing, it’s impossible to say what he did.

                In conclusion, Kearney didn’t get a check for $500,000 to spend that day. Could he have got one to roll into an investment option for retirement? Possible. Did he earn $500,000 from the DROP program over a 5 year period? Possible.

                Only additional is that you have to do it immediately on the day of your retirement. So he would have had to do it in 2009 and then ended his drop program in 2014 if he did it for 5 years. All assumptions since we have zero facts in this case.

                • #84 by Reality Is.... on May 19, 2016 - 9:07 am

                  Educate yourself Fullerton Lover. I don’t want you looking like a dummy so often like some others here.

                  🙂

                • #85 by Reality Is.. on May 22, 2016 - 3:30 pm

                  🤘🏻🤘🏻🍆🍆🤑🤑

              • #86 by Fullerton Lover on May 22, 2016 - 7:26 am

                Stanford says that the city of Fullerton’s unfunded liability is 574 MILLION dollars short on funds…

                pensions.http://www.pensiontracker.org/agencySummary.php?id=1406#summary

  9. #89 by Darren on May 9, 2016 - 11:34 pm

    South Fullerton is watching you Mr. Imbriano. It is about damn time someone like you has decided to rise up and break rank from these phony conservatives and these bleeding heart liberals that turn their backs on us once elected. Kudos to you and your staff for a job well done.

    • #90 by Preoccupied on May 10, 2016 - 11:12 am

      Wow, Joe’s staff must be impressive to garner such praise. How large is it?

  10. #91 by Reality Is... on May 11, 2016 - 9:54 pm

    Don’t forget that Tip A Cop is tomorrow night at Heroes. Can it get better than telling a Cop to serve you drinks and do what you say? Barry Joe FR? Like a dream right?

  11. #92 by Maureen on May 11, 2016 - 11:01 pm

    Thanks for waiting the commission out tonight and telling it like it is. What you said needed to be said. I would love to help you design your signs for your council run. I mean it.

  12. #93 by Barry Levinson on May 12, 2016 - 1:13 pm

    Only a month ago this Overlay Zoning tool was a part of the Revised DCCSP presented to Planning Commission. When the people spoke out against it, including myself, the committee decided to put off voting on the DCCSP indefinitely until more study of the issue could take place.

    Now the city and their developer friends are pushing forward with the key part of the revised DCCSP which is to allow for high-rise, high density apartments in 6 places where it is currently only zoned for retail/commercial.

    The city council and the city manager especially should be ashamed of themselves.

    It is very simple Fullertonians, eventually Mayor Fitzgerald has to prove her financial worth to Curt Pringle and Associates who hired her right after she won a Fullerton council seat. One way for her to do that is to get these zoning changes passed by council and past the watchful eye of the electorate.

    • #94 by Reality Is... on May 13, 2016 - 1:11 pm

      Standard tactic. Delay. Bring it up later. Slide it through. You knew it was going to go through eventually.

  13. #95 by Telling It Like It Is on May 13, 2016 - 9:14 pm

    It amazes me how in many ways RI sees all the underhanded ways the Fullerton City Government operates and is perfectly okay with it.

    • #96 by Anonymous on May 14, 2016 - 9:26 am

      I totally agree.

      I no longer read any “Reality Is” posts, I skip over all of them.

      • #97 by Reality Is.. on May 14, 2016 - 2:25 pm

        Liar. You read everyone of my posts. They are the only ones with an open and varying opinion. Without my posts all you get is biased, pre planned, negative opinions of anything and everything.

    • #98 by Joe Imbriano on May 14, 2016 - 11:30 am

      Because he is inexorably linked to it.

    • #99 by Reality Is.. on May 14, 2016 - 2:24 pm

      I’m active in many cities in many aspects. I see it in other cities too. Exactly the same. Right out of the California League of Cities playbook. Some I support. Some I don’t. I’m not like you guys where I don’t support anything any city government does and never give kudos when they do well. That’s the difference. Negativity in life causes a shorter life span. Joe and Barry will not live longer than the average life span due to their negativity in life.

  14. #100 by Reality Is.. on May 16, 2016 - 9:16 pm

    Joe and Barry? You alive? My posts haven’t cleared the vetting process all weekend. Should I call 911 to have Fullerton PD check on you? 🙂

  15. #101 by Fullerton Lover on May 18, 2016 - 9:12 pm

    Nice deviation from your original post that these DROP payments were limited to one year , and that it was impossible for anyone to receive an almost half a million dollar one time payment….

    Reality Is… :
    I explained in the other post. Lol no one received a 500k drop payment. It’s hours worked after retirement and those hours are limited for one year.

    • #102 by Reality Is.... on May 19, 2016 - 9:06 am

      I’m always willing to explain things for you. Seems to be my job here.

      🙂

  16. #103 by Lizette on May 19, 2016 - 8:49 am

    You people need to elect Joe. He is the only person that will make any meaningful changes possible. I am really excited for him. I cannot believe we actually have someone like him in our city. He is a really promising leader.

    • #104 by Anonymous on May 19, 2016 - 8:03 pm

      Agreed. Sadly if he does get elected, the rest of the clowncil will just keep screwing everyone over.

    • #106 by Joe Imbriano on May 20, 2016 - 9:21 am

      Links are under the photos per your request and thanks for snapping those images. By the way, no one owns stories Matt and Jane. The truth is free and rightfully so. By the way, there is no way you or Jane can remain objective with connections to the Observer. You both need to cut ties with Sharon Kennedy publicly and immediately and call her out. The duplicity exemplified in that relationship in my opinion is treasonous to the Fullerton residents. As far as I am concerned you are part of the problem if you wish to remain connected at the hip to that rag. All the good you are doing is being cancelled out by all the subterfuge and inference she continues to run for the establishment.

      By the way, how do card carrying Green Party members continue to remain silent on and ignore the destruction of our childrens health with the wireless in the schools, and the destruction of the environment with geo engineering and all the microwave bombardment of entire populations of people, plants and animals? I just don’t get it.

      • #107 by Anonymous on May 20, 2016 - 9:26 am

        People own the things they make, and merely pasting a link (not even going through the effort to actually put the code in for the link) is not a clear indication of credit. You have a lot to learn about copyright law, Joe, because that really is stealing.

      • #108 by Reality Is.. on May 20, 2016 - 9:47 am

        Joe instructing other’s what to believe and how t think. Comical. Stealing other’s material. Imagine if the spots were reversed? All hell would break loose.

        • #109 by Joe Imbriano on May 20, 2016 - 10:14 am

          That is what real leaders do RI.

          • #110 by Reality Is..... on May 20, 2016 - 10:30 am

            LOL. Real leaders are open to the opinions and beliefs of others. Not closed minded. You are not a true leader by any means.

            • #111 by Anonymous on May 20, 2016 - 12:54 pm

              Then why does Matt’s girfriend Jane work for the Observer and why does he claim he is not connected to it? That doesn’t add up.

          • #112 by Anonymous on May 20, 2016 - 12:10 pm

            Real leaders steal content?

        • #113 by Devon on May 21, 2016 - 12:19 pm

          Wouldn’t it be nice if we had more people like Joe Imbriano telling it like it is and standing up for all of us? No instead we have an obscure,insignificant naysayer who steps forward to accuse Fullerton’s modern day Che Guevara of stealing material? I have to laugh. Stealing? Hardly. Did Joe cross the line on the pictures? Perhaps. What is the harm? I don’t see any. Both Joe and Matt supposedly have similar goals which is reform in Fullerton.

          I read the articles Matt referenced and for the most part, they contained less than 1 percent of the information on Larry Bennett that this article contained.

          The photo issue? It is done all the time on the web. Joe offers nothing for sale here. This is a news blog and a not for profit web site and he is not making any money.

          Matt needs to grow up. Maybe Matt ought to cover something aside from the politically safe, tired, drab, political spin cycle that reaches no one but a small circle of his liberal fence sitting pals. I dare him to cover one iota of the ground Joe and Barry cover here. He won’t. I dare him to go after the lies that Sharon Kennedy prints twice a month. He won’t.

          All he can do is bitch over a picture and make an accusation that has absolutely no merit. See how he hides behind lame excuses for ignoring huge issues and feeds us more bullshit about his questionable connections that supposedly don’t exist. He’s been shackin’ up with Rands for years who has been writing pages for the Observer for years and he expects us to believe has no connection to Kennedy? What the fuck is this guy smoking? Reign your chickadee in pal.

          • #114 by Reality Is.. on May 21, 2016 - 9:05 pm

            Dare someone to cover things like Joe and Barry cover things here? Really? Can’t anyone offer their personal opinion anywhere at anytime? Personally the worst type of leaders possible are the Type A ones that think their way is the best and their is no need to even listen to other people’s opinions. The 2nd worst leaders are the ones that fail to recognize the good work and deeds done by others. Joe and Barry are the definition of these two types of leaders.

            No thanks.

            • #115 by Joe Imbriano on May 21, 2016 - 10:15 pm

              Leaders? Fullerton is in ruin. Good deeds? That is what employees are paid to do. Funny, I just left a meeting where Bankhead reared his. RI the worst ones are the ones we have and have had. No thanks to the phonies like Fitzpringle and the union hacks Dougeepoo and Fluoride are the first ones who need to go and if the other two don’t grow some, they are next.

              • #116 by Reality Is..... on May 21, 2016 - 10:22 pm

                Like I said. You will never convince even one person that a human can’t do one good thing in their life. That’s why what you say goes in one ear and out the other for 99% of people in Fullerton. You aren’t realistic at all. City employees do good work everyday, 99.9% of the time. Just because you disagree with city government and politics, doesn’t mean you can’t recognize the good work city employees do everyday. Some work their assess off and do great work, and you refuse to even acknowledge that. Ever. That’s what you won’t ever be a leader. You are the opposite of a leader. Unless you feel that you can be a city councilperson and not be a leader? Possible. Talk to Travis. He tried that type of leadership and he was gone before he opened his mouth the second time.

                • #117 by Joe Imbriano on May 21, 2016 - 10:24 pm

                  RI Fullerton needs a political enema.

                  • #118 by Reality Is.. on May 22, 2016 - 10:10 am

                    Lol 🙂

                    • #119 by Fullerton Lover on May 22, 2016 - 8:54 pm

                      My mistake! The contents I credited to the Orange Juice blog, was actually the Voice of OC.

                      fullerton-council-postpones-decision-on-district-maps

                  • #120 by Fullerton Lover on May 22, 2016 - 8:50 pm

                    How can two of the biggest sleaze balls and lowlifes to grace the streets of Fullerton, like Jeremy Popoff and Tony Florentine, tell the rest of the 150,00 Fullerton residents how they would like to gerrymander the districts for their own benefit, and then be backed by the Korean congregation of Grace Ministries, and have it all sanctioned by Curt Pringle puppet, and Chamber of city council woman conduit, Jennifer Fitzgerald.

                    These people truly have no shame, and certainly no grace.

                    The following comments were gleaned from the Orange Juice blog, and NOT the Fullerton Rag…

                    “However, the business community didn’t think that map 2B best represented their interests.
                    My business is in downtown. Not only my business, but the heart of Fullerton’s business community is in downtown,” said Jeremy Popoff, who drew the business owners’ favored map. He said his fellow business owners didn’t know about the districting or the community meetings on the issue.

                    “Our downtown business community was not represented in those meetings,” Popoff said. “The entire community needs to be invested in downtown.”

                    On the opposite end of the spectrum, Jaramillo and Paik — both in support of map 2B — told the council that Fullerton is not only about the downtown area.

                    “We’re not only the downtown. We have lots of miles of residents that live here, that are raising children, families” Jaramillo told the council. “In the 62 years I have been here, I have seen one Latino on the council who lives on the south side of the railroad tracks.”

                    Paik acknowledged the support for map 8, but said that it was not the product of months of public input from the rounds of community meetings.

                    “I want to reemphasize that this process [of drawing up 2B] lingered over 8 months,” Paik said. He said the Latino community compromised by giving up a majority CVAP in a district when they moved forward with map 2B that “all came together together during a community-driven process.”

                    Joe Florentine, another downtown business owner, criticized 2B’s supporters’ understanding of downtown business.

                    “I respectfully challenge those that are the proponents of map 2B, only because I don’t think they understand the dynamics of downtown like you folks [the council] do,” Florentine said. “Downtown Fullerton is our hub. It’s where everybody goes for socializing.”

                    Business owners weren’t the only ones in support of map 8. Charles Han, speaking on behalf of 5,000 members of Grace Ministries International in Fullerton, said he supports giving all five districts a stake in downtown.

                    “As a former planning commissioner myself, I worked through many decisions on the dais working with business owners in the downtown area. We don’t believe that the downtown area should be monopolized by one member,” Han said.

                    Resident Joe Imbriano said the council has always kowtowed to the city’s business establishment.

                    “The downtown businesses, those places are a drain on our revenue. Any more power to them is a big mistake,” Imbriano concluded.

                    During council deliberations, Mayor Jennifer Fitzgerald echoed the business community’s input and said it’s important for everyone to have a stake in downtown.

                    “I believe that our downtown business owners have a very legitimate place here at the table in this decision process,” Fitzgerald said.

                    The Popoff-owned Slidebar in downtown gave $1,000 to Fitzgerald’s campaign last year. Florentine’s Bar and Grill, owned by Florentine, gave Fitzgerald’s 2016 campaign $250, according to her most recent campaign statements.

          • #121 by Fullerton Rag on May 22, 2016 - 8:50 am

            “I read the articles Matt referenced and for the most part, they contained less than 1 percent of the information on Larry Bennett that this article contained.”

            Yeah, the 1% that is substantive. The rest of Joe’s post is a run-on rant.

            “Maybe Matt ought to cover something aside from the politically safe, tired, drab, political spin cycle that reaches no one but a small circle of his liberal fence sitting pals.”

            Evidently you don’t read the Rag much. Perhaps you missed the story that stopped the DCCSP in its tracks two years ago. And I’ve criticized initiatives on all sides of the political spectrum, including fence-sitting so-called liberals. Of course, I don’t have time to cover everything, but when I do, I try to give credit to whatever source of info I am referencing.

            Yes, I know Sharon Kennedy, whose brother’s comments I have roundly criticized on the Rag. There is nothing wrong with knowing people. I even say Hi to Joe when I see him.

            “What the fuck is this guy smoking? Reign your chickadee in pal.”

            I like my lungs, so I don’t smoke anything. Chicks aren’t there to be reined in, Mr. sexist, especially mine.

            • #122 by Barry Levinson on May 22, 2016 - 2:45 pm

              Matt talking about giving credit where credit is due…it would be nice if you gave me a little credit for stopping the DCCSP two years ago as I was the only one who got up during Public comments and called it for what it was…. a totally non-democratic power grab by City Manager Joe Felz. I explained that night that the city council would be voting to transfer its authority and power to vote on individual development projects and hand it over to a non-elected bureaucrat, Joe Felz. I went on to state that any honest city council would never vote to do just that!

              Going forward, it would be nice if we could join forces when we agree on important policy.

              However, based on past experiences I have noted that there can be agreement on between you and me on the top 2 or 3 issues facing this city and most liberals and progressives would rather vote for someone who is a liberal who disagrees with them on all two or three issues rather than vote for a conservative that agrees with them on all two or three issues. This is exactly what happened in 2012 when so many liberals and progressives voted for fellow liberal Jan Flory even though she supported the police over Kelly Thomas, was against having a police civilian review board with any power and who was for the massive housing development in Coyote Hills… and so very few of you voted for me who was for a park, for a civilian review board with subpoena power and for getting justice for Kelly Thomas meaning holding all involved accountable under the law.

            • #124 by Roseanne on May 28, 2016 - 11:20 pm

              With all do respect Matt, you are in a tiff over nothing. Mr. Bennett’s connections to The FPOA and to the Chaffee campaign were no secret. Obviously your reaction to Joe fast forwarding the issue by two years clearly shows the problem has gotten worse and not better.

              • #125 by Reality Is.. on May 29, 2016 - 8:17 am

                And most winning candidates receive donations from public safety unions. Just a good idea to success. Anti public safety people and candidates usually aren’t good for a city and its citizens.

                • #126 by Fullerton Lover on May 29, 2016 - 9:36 am

                  …and then again most of those public safety “endorsed” candidates are rotten to the core, and possess the moral compass of an eel.

                  http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2011/peer-into-the-thought-process-of-the-fpoa/

                  • #127 by Reality Is.. on May 29, 2016 - 6:25 pm

                    Broad statement. Most of those public safety candidates are rotten to the core. I know a few not endorsed over the years but majority by far are clearly anti public safety or make it clear they want drastic changes to the current system. Usually a political death sentence.

      • #128 by Fullerton Rag on May 20, 2016 - 10:31 am

        Fullerton Rag is just Matt, Joe. Jane wrote a couple of pieces early on, but unless her name is on a story, it isn’t hers. She writes for the Observer. I’ll thank you not to perpetuate the myth that she has anything to do with the Rag. And please enlighten me on my “connections of the Observer,” and why that would prevent me, or anyone else from being objective on a blog.

        No one owns stories? Well, I wouldn’t sue over the matter. The web is one big conversation. I was just pointing out your shameless appropriation of my work.

        I actually think you have a point about the proliferation of wireless networks and their unknown effects on health. Too bad you have it all mixed up into a conspiratorial mess of chemtrails, depopulation schemes, and flat earth theories.

        • #129 by Joe Imbriano on May 20, 2016 - 12:46 pm

          Matt, thank you for the clarification on your connection to the Observer. From all appearances, you and Jane seem to work in tandem as a team.

          I am saddened however that you have obviously ignored everything that has been presented at council and on the site for years on wireless. The health effects of microwaves have been known for decades.The debate is over, the science is settled. Microwaves cause cancer and infertility.

          Did I just hear a card carrying green party member going on record denying geo engineering? Matt, lets get past this and work on dealing with reality. Denying the obvious is no place to begin. No matter which side of the dais I end up on, I will still work to advance the common good of the residents on all fronts. As far as shameless appropriation, the images have your link on them. You did not write the article on Larry, I did. Write another one and expose him for what he is. He is running in November. There are hundreds of articles on this blog Matt.

          Exposing the phonies and the cronies at city hall and their sycophants is not your work, it is everyone’s work Matt. I have proudly watched for three and one half years how you stood up for a murdered homeless man and have sadly witnessed how you have totally ignored the intentional destruction of our children’s physical and reproductive health by what I repeatedly raised with regards to the microwaving of children in Fullerton schools.

          Matt regardless of your take on the shape of the earth, relegating the wireless and geo engineering crisis to conspiracy theories amounts to one giant copout. That is the problem in this town. No one wants to stand up for the truth. Everyone wants to play nicey nice, and try to stay popular and politically correct. No time for that Matt. The children are in harms way, Fullerton is for sale and for that matter, we are all in harms way with all of the out of control microwave towers that keep coming and the rains that just seem not to be able to anymore.

          • #130 by Anonymous on May 20, 2016 - 2:06 pm

            It’s hilarious how you always double-down on the insanity of your beliefs.

            • #131 by Reality Is..... on May 20, 2016 - 7:57 pm

              Double Down? He’s gone all in for years!

        • #132 by Anonymous on May 20, 2016 - 3:11 pm

          Then why does Matt’s girfriend Jane work for the Observer and why does he claim he is not connected to it? That doesn’t add up.

        • #135 by Fullerton Lover on May 20, 2016 - 8:24 pm

          Consider yourself enlightened.

          Note the link on the Fullerton Rag’s Facebook page to the Fullerton Observer.

          https://www.facebook.com/FullertonRag

          • #136 by Reality Is.. on May 21, 2016 - 4:22 pm

            Who cares? Big deal. A biased blog or news outlet? Isn’t that what we have here? We just learned here they like to take other’s people material. Surprising? No.

          • #137 by Anonymous on May 22, 2016 - 10:50 am

            God forbid, a local news website linked to another local news website! It must be a government-controlled plan to depopulate Fullerton!

  17. #138 by Fullerton Rag on May 20, 2016 - 5:24 pm

    Joe, I was going to write a longer response about authorship, but it’s hard to get past “…regardless of your take on the shape of the earth”.

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